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I was making the comparison as a best case scenario. I will take your word for it if the two don't hold a candle to each other! I'm a big juke box snob. If "Joe's Bar & Bistro's" juke box sucks, they get -10 points. Reddstone got a deduction from me in this regard. The owner made some claim about it having a kick-ass juke box before it opened and (as I've posted elsewhere) the first time I walked through the door, I heard a Cher dance track from 1999. Luckily, the good beer and pizza washed the vomit down nicely... now, what's this about orange juice containers? do you want them or not want them? I lost you on that one!

That would make sense, wouldn't it? I'll check it out on my way home tonight. A quick vent: On my way to work this morning, I was on what I thought was the SLOWEST #6 bus in the history of Euclid transit. It wasn't because of traffic or the crowds or stopping for passengers every other block... nor was it because of ECTP construction. I hopped on at 8:30 at Public Square and didn't get to E. 55th until 8:50. The driver was pushing 20 MPH most of the distance and stopped at green lights on a couple occasions. At E. 55th, we sat through 2 cycles before finally proceeding on the 3rd. What??? I decided to check my schedule to see how far behind we were and to my surprise, I found that we were right on time! The schedule said departure from Public Square at 8:32 would reach E. 55th at 8:51. So, I guess I can't really complain, except for the fact that we were really crawling and nothing's more irritating when you're on your way to work than sitting at green lights for what seems like no good reason. End of the story was that I arrived in University Circle "on time," by the schedule's standards, but 35 minutes from P.S. to E. 115th Street when there is no traffic felt interminable. I guess if I have a question, it would be whether the driver is required to go slow to stay on schedule. And if that's the case, maybe the schedule should be a bit more aggressive!

eh? and Pope, do tell! I think you're the first on UrbanOhio to have hit up the new spot!

Not sure why I hadn't seen this until now (maybe because I'm not relocating?), but it looks great! I will second Murray Hill's comment about getting to this page via search engine. I only tried Google, but I know that other UrbanOhio pages come up and we should do something to make sure that this one does. Right now, the first page of hits for "cleveland relocation guide" (minus the quotes) is abysmal, with the Cleveland Clinic's "Moving to Cleveland Survival Guide" coming up #1. (Their idea of "survival" appears to be getting to the suburbs as quickly as possible!) Add quotes to the above search and the results are even worse. What can admins do to make this page a top hit?

betchya he feels stupid right about now, going home with a frozen stadium on his head and a loss to boot...

both of those pics (BP Tower & Pitt) are fantastic!

Good blog update, you beat me to it, Murray Hill! I don't often check the live shot at night:

I give them instant credit for being a collaboration between a new and former owner. The one guy used to live upstairs, for pete's sake! Give him a chance! I know a lot of people felt this way about the old v. new Grog Shop and I think that turned out to be perfect. You still got the great bands, the great vibe, the surly service and even dirty azz bathrooms, but the place stayed alive and became (presumably) more financially viabile. The Euc is obviously a different scenario, but I'm still hopeful!

Even dollar coins? Sorry, I don't mean to be obtuse... (I just have a lot of dollar coins, but I never bring them for fear of them not being accepted.)

as long as you go once. give 'em a chance!

Do the new fare boxes accept $1 coins?

Try this one on for size: The Euclid Tavern is opened for business! They opened yesterday and will have an official opening on Friday, January 25th. They are opened everyday at 11 AM and have a lunch & dinner menu. Near-term plans include a wine & martini bar, a roof top patio and a street level patio as well. Beginning in June, they will also be opened for breakfast.

^That's cool! (shameless pun)

Ok, so I'm 99.9% thrilled! Besides, they are improving the sidewalk entrance too, so I can't really complain.

^Including the Church Ave/W. 28th segment? I thought that was still a go (but severely delayed). There has been so little communication about this project. Very disappointing.

99% fantastic (only the interior garage connection bothers me... surprise!). I heard about the LEED stuff yesterday and was very pleased. This should be another wonderful renovation!

love the logo... can't wait to check out the beers!

It is interesting that both the Clinic and UH will have their main entry boulevards/allees lined with parking structures. Not sure how that makes sense, but whatever. I haven't been by Euclid in front of UH in over a week, so I don't know about the construction fencing, but I would assume that it will be up for the duration of the demolition of both the nurse's dorms and Hanna Pavilion. These two buildings will be demoed to make room for the emergency center and parking garage. Club Isabella was demoed last year to make room for the Cancer Hospital and the Cleveland Hearing & Speech Center will ideally relocated to its new building at E. 117th & Euclid in time for the opening of the Cancer Hospital.

my impression was that both 1010 and the Rotunda needed to be preserved in order to qualify. If they were separate projects, it'd be a different story. I could be off, though. First impressions from this rendering? Kinda scary. Aside from proliferating the overabundance of green colored reflective glass in this part of town (see CSU at E. 18th & Euclid), it looks like something pieced together with PhotoShop in an evening. I'll take that to mean that it shouldn't be given much thought right now. If this looks anything like Stonebridge phases 1-4, we could be in for a big disappointment...

so, when she stopped rotating, these very very small rooms made her dizziness that much worse?

FYI, the Cancer Hospital is on this week's University Circle Design District agenda. I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said here. I would have loved to see these buildings reused in some way, but I'm at a loss for how they could've done it. I'm admittedly out of the loop on this one.

I'd like to see a Packers-Chargers Super Bowl, but I voted for the inevitable.

Welcome to the neighborhood everyone! Even though I live in a different part of D-S, it's great to know that we're a growing bunch and that people are excited to live here!

Sorry to steer this conversation away from urban animals... I lived in Cincinnati (college) for 4 years, Portland, OR for 1 and Brooklyn, NY for 4 years before coming back to Cle in 2005. I'm only going to talk about the latter 5 years, as those are most relevant to this thread. I'll probably update this as I remember more stuff! Things I missed about (Greater) Cleveland while I was away: 1. The indescribable feeling of "home" 2. The neighborhoods that I knew well - Ohio City, Shaker Square, University Circle, Little Italy, Tremont, Coventry, Cedar-Lee 3. The history of the city/region 4. The thought that the city had so much potential that had yet to be tapped 5. The fact that both of the above are relatively unknown outside of Ohio (see more below) 6. Being the underdog 7. My sports teams and being surrounded by other people whose moods shifted with the teams' success/failure 8. The feeling that I could make a difference (politically, professionally, etc.) 9. Affordability 10. Great bars & restaurants that were not constantly overcrowded 11. Dramatic change between seasons 12. Lake Erie Things I didn't miss about (Greater) Cleveland while I was away: 1. The slow pace of development 2. The lack of neighborhood shopping/retail 3. Much more need for a car 4. Winters that go on a bit too long! 5. Sprawl 6. Trend towards conservatism in state politics 7. Declining economy 8. Sad local music scene Now, the kicker... Things I was delighted to find upon returning to Cleveland that I didn't know about before: 1. Neighborhoods - Detroit-Shoreway & St. Clair-Superior - their history, architecture, and growth 2. I could afford to live on my favorite street in Ohio City for half of what I paid for rent in Brooklyn 3. Living without a car wasn't difficult 4. Many of my friends had begun to move back to Cleveland; new friends had followed similar paths 5. The local music & arts scene had vitality and was accessible 6. Connecting with the big names (political leaders, developers, etc.) was easy 7. Lots of young families on the Near-West Side 8. Young, civic-minded entrepreneurs were opening shops, starting non-profits, joining boards Basically, the big thing for me was that while I lived in Portland and NYC and it was very clear why young people from all over the world wanted to live in these places, I was still unsatisfied. Development was everywhere. Shopping, dining, recreation, and like-minded people were all around. I didn't find work in my profession (urban planning) very easily, but enjoyed working in more social professions - retail, cafes, etc. The difficult entry into the professional world definitely turned me off, but I think that part of why it was difficult, though, was that I didn't invest myself in these communities the way that I knew I would if I came back home. A lot of this had to do with the belief that there really wasn't a place in Portland or NYC that I could find that had yet to be "discovered" and exploited commercially. In Cleveland, I believed that places like Ohio City, while well-known and established as a place to visit and live, still hadn't reached its modern-day nexus yet. And then there were places like Detroit-Shoreway and St. Clair-Superior that were just beginning their renaissance. Downtown still has dramatic opportunities for growth and University Circle can develop into an even greater center for jobs, health care, culture, education, and a place to live. In Cleveland, I can help make that happen. Right or wrong, I didn't think I'd make a bit of difference in these other cities. There were too many people like me, if that's possible! So, I came home, got my masters degree, got married, bought a house, had a kid, and am delighted time and time again by this city, its neighborhoods, and what I am capable of here. Sure, there have been disappointments, but they're things that I can work to change. In Cleveland, I care enough to try.

3231, you've been holding out on me! But you get what I'm saying, right? When is it open? Apparently, they're on a 2-month winter hiatus right now!