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The station is a nifty building. Would love to see it all cleaned and restored.

Warren will be the weak link in the Cle. to Pitt. effort. The city is a disaster when it comes to a progressive idea like this because the leadership, or lack there-of...l is a grand canyon of stupidity and "Joe Smiths". It is so mentally stuck into the auto only thing...and all talk no action. I hope that scenario will not hinder the effort.

Motel 6! :-D

I have made some suggestions on how to make things more efficient. Too lengthy to write here right now, but glad to share via PM so I keep my long stuff to a minimum on here. I think it will get better...and a reminder to anyone who wants to do this: Get there early... By at least 10:00 AM to avoid the longer waits. This means be in the line by that time.

^ I will PM you on that...

It depends on who makes the smoothie, how good it turns out. At home, I always make them w/o dairy and they amaze even the most ardent of dairy folk. Additionally, there are a myriad of fantastic rice/oat/soy based deserts Non-GMO/Organic that are out of this world, available at special markets and even some in Giant E. I expect that drink mixing art to get better at FIC, though. Even I tried drinks that were a bit off when made by someone new or not too experienced. Try the freshly juiced juices like orange/carrot and ginger. When made right, it is divine. If they have it...try the Asian wrap with the plum sauce on top. That's a favorite of mine. More on the menu will come. The hours will be until 7 PM for now. Oh, and sorry for the double post.. But my above question about the brewery and anything to replace the space.. Does anyone know? What a huge place to sit as yet another empty Flats establishment.

Just a quick question here... Did Rock Bottom Brewery close? If so, does anyone know of any plans for that space?

There is a small feature on the reopening of the deck on today's "Around Noon" show on WCPN. Here is the link..... http://www.wcpn.org/index.php/WCPN/an/31410/

TG&Y

Good points. This is why this may be a good area to start. We can start by creating a healthier populace if we want to revitalize areas. In the US largely, there is a pervasive myth that eating well/healthier has to cost a lot. It is time we "un-learn" that b.s. that has had the junk food industry thrive in light of it. Better foods have even been proven to change bad behavior and help in better learning. The fact that the distribution facilities are near by and can offer a retail face....can be a spark, as long as what they are distributing is not all a bunch of junk foods such as Cheetos, Grape Pop, (or any fizz drink), candy, sugar laden sports drinks, etc..etc.. All of which, I might add, has their packaging ending up on the ground. Just take a look around. Ok, but before we all get exited about this project..... How far is it from really becoming a reality, seeing that many projects are announced long before we will ever begin to see any movement.

There are some better options as you're indicating, but the bad, as it stands right now, outweighs the good. Why? Many reasons, but one thing to note is that there has been a whole generation raised on little of anything else except the fast food scene. This has helped to develop very bad eating habits and choices that are accepted as the norm, when in reality, is is nutritionally dysfunctional. You cannot argue that one should make better eating choices when all they have been used to is mostly fast food. While Dave's is ok...most of the food in the supermarkets is still processed crap and in many areas, have not set the proper standard for nutrition, and will simply sell "what sell" no matter how crappy the food item..... And, what "sells" is that has been given the luxury of the most advertising...and the most government subsidy. You will find that crops that will ultimately be used in lesser nutritious foods, get more subsidy and ultimately get advertised the most, hence creating the "demand" and therefore contributes to getting our youth and others hooked on poor foods. So, in the larger scale, compared to the constant endless budget that markets crappy foods....it is still, overall, a nutritional wasteland---and calling it such is not at all meant to undermine or ignore the efforts of those who are trying to make it better and who HAVE added a lot, not at all. Rather, the label is given to address what a difficult challenge and effort it takes in trying to wean the public away from trash disguised and packaged as "food" amidst the constant influx of crap they are exposed to...and more so in some areas. This just happens to be one of them.

This is not a local Cleveland name. Its simply a national clone chain. Nothing unique about it.

Neat tattoos! (and I am someone who is not a fan of them either) I wonder what the tower tattoo will look like when old age sets in and the skin becomes shriveled.

Great idea to revitalize a once spectacular intersection. The area is literally a nutritional wasteland/desert. This is what we should be approving and going out of our way to accommodate...and THIS is viable development. More fast food joints do nothing for the health of people in that area. I hope this works. ^^ I am sure that would be a component of this project. Good idea.

Again... I would simply say... "Hey, I'm working this side of the street!"

Burrows? I thought they vanished alltogether?... I loved that store.

What did I tell you about this? I am so sick of this broad brush generalization of Cleveland being "anti-business" Why? Because they cannot always have their way at any cost? Whaaa! The attitude is like adult spoiled brats who never had to abide by rules. This "anti-business" label....after business has ruled the city for most of its history, making The Flats into an industrial wasteland. That evidence (landscape) does not look too "anti-business" to me. Looks like they pretty much had their way, turning the river into a toxic sewer in the process, that the cost to clean up has been levied upon all of us in many ways. Tired of the confusion: The ideology that expecting big businesses to be accountable and socially responsible, being interpreted by many conservatives as simply "anti"... (Whaaaaa!!!, they whine.) Such unaccountability brought us the burning river, and I could mention another current event but that opens a whole new can of worms) Oh...But I know....I guess we should let those minds run the whole ship and all will be just fine..if we just get off their backs and let them do the right thing, huh? Well they had that chance and failed at the privilege, so thus, regulation was born, the nature of the kind of restraints you now complain about and label "anti-business". Its analogous to the development community labeling environmentalists as "all anti-"progress"...when in reality, it is not about blind opposition to progress, it is about opposition to blind progress. Now back on cue...

Excellent point.

^ Uncle Bills? Silvermans?.... Value City? Fazios?... Forest City Auto Parts?.. Jerry's Marine? Rego's? I can't wait! :-D

When Shaker was built, I have to think that a selling point of the community was a more open setting rather than being stacked upon others in what are apartment buildings. Sure, we look at the old photos and romanticize such dwellings from certain aspects, as I also do...but people at that time (especially the more financially well off, which is what the community catered to) may have actually welcomed the more open sprawling bucolic settings as a new break from denser living...because the denser/crowded living is all most people knew at the time..and along with it came some of the stuffy/dirty feelings. Therefore, the Shaker setting must have looked so welcoming, especially in a time when probably not one person in 20,000 even was fathoming the idea that resources aren't limitless and effects of anything related to sprawl. (which at that time, this would have been among the first major "sprawl")

I wish this place would get something done. As it is it looks really bad.

^Tedloph... I agree many times over. The ride on Chagrin River Road skimming the eastern fringes among many, many other places is stunning. One side observation....When on Gildersleeve Mountain looking west, Cleveland skyline on a clear day pops up out of what looks like a huge forest.

^ Good points...there are many areas that also harken back to the days of some pretty wealthy neighborhoods.. What about East Blvd. One thing I want to point out too...is that on Franklin, there used to be many of the stone houses, such as in Franklin Castle... But were demolished... Also, the demos of Millionaire's Row on Euclid.

Before you go, visit The Cleveland Store at Tower City... Very positive people there and some nifty items. On the population thing, there is plenty of emptiness for new construction in Cleveland; enough to hope to help lure new population and existing ones back in from the outer areas. For now, let's be the best we can be as we are and stop worrying so much about quantity...and start focusing on quality. Sometimes "less is more".

Halloween.