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All will be closed downtown! :-P

^ MH you've been such a great promoter for that! More good places need customers like that.

Just as Healthline supposedly has stirred lots of interest in re-developing Euclid.... I see the Waterfront Line positioned in a similar way. It is the basic infrastructure that should attract development/re-development/interest around it. You lay a road...you open the doors for sprawl. With the WFL, ideally, I would think it would be a spark for interest around it. To be doing away with rail is regressing, naturally...But again, as the poster (Clvndr) above alluded to, the management has been a big problem with making it seem like rail is not going to be supported. All said, I do not think this line should be done away with. Thoughts anyone? Btw... I would guess that if trains ran at 3AM they would mostly serve as transport for trouble makers or those looking for trouble...who's day begins at 2:00 AM and ends at 7:00 AM....when they will sleep till 4:00 PM!

Harkens back to Kingsbury Run atmosphere.

I actually have to sometimes contest what is often this comforting thought. 50 years ago many waters were of poor quality for many reasons--mostly centered around the industrial pollutants, sewage, and agriculture, etc. And, while they certainly have improved in many ways from the typical pollutants of the past....we seldom mention the fact that their are a whole new host of challenges that can prove equally detrimental to waters (factory farm agriculture, chemical runoff from suburban lawns and parking lots, construction, litter, exotics, point/and non-point source pollutants, increasing population encroachment on tributaries, etc)--although usually less visually dramatic of the past polluting scene. This, coupled with population increase, presents a whole new set of challenges that we cannot afford to sit on our laurels because we think we cleaned up the environment once......and we're good to go. It is not something we do once and forget about. Some waters were so bad in the past that any improvement was a good one, therefore, I personally do not like to use these past conditions as a benchmark or set of standards for the goals to achieve water quality and when we improve it, think we've done the best we can. I admit, I dream a little higher....Alternately, as a rule of thumb, I like to allow conditions before mega-agriculture and industry existed as something to try and get as close to as possible, if at all.....But just as close as we can, in achieving the best standards. This is why preserving tributary and main stem riparian buffer zones is so important. These areas act like huge filters for our rivers--and our larger bodies of water are only as good as the smaller ones flowing into them. I don't want to sway this way off topic, people...so I'll just post this thread I started a while back...there can be such discussion there.... It takes us under streams, lakes and rivers for some local "fishwatching" and a great article recently in the Toledo Blade about lesser known small fishes which are great water quality indicator species. Here it is.... http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,19687.0.html

^ Interesting. Just thinking though....The plan should not be just a goal to make Chicago's waters safer.. What about the rest of us? Is that a national issue or local? All the GL's and their watersheds are interwoven. As a nation we really need to rally around saving these treasured and shared resources. Getting rid of CSO's is an important part of this investment.

^Wow! Forgot about that part...

^ I think that is the spot. This happening on the night of the art walk. Just the night before I had an event I held at the book store.

Good points. Cleveland proper has not a lot of shoreline to work with in terms of beach. Our shoreline we see now...especially near downtown, is mostly...all made from fill. I wish there were some remaining natural areas for beach environment. Look how it enhances a city as in the photos. This kind of vision often seems to be difficult to get across here to the powers that be, because there is an archaic thought process that sees a place left in its natural condition as worthless. It would be nice to see some areas implemented with development and an attempt to restore or re-create a more natural shoreline where people can swim. However, with the current disregard for what little shoreline we DO have in the proper, like Edgewater, (Ie: littering, sewage) I would only hope that increased access would not simply invite more. We really need an education about the natural attributes and functions of our shoreline here amongst the general public, so that we better respect it. Many visitors to this park simply trash it. (Edgewater) Places where they respect and appreciate their beaches, you don't see nearly as much of this. Sydney has 100's of miles of beach and you are hard pressed to find litter--and all walks of life visit them. Here... you can gather 5 bag fulls in just 50 yards if you look hard enough. This really has something to say about how some people see this resource. (as their trash can/sewer) If I were "dictator" for a day, I would do what Florida does in some state parks...charge a small admission. That will be enough to keep some of the riff raff out who poop on the place. Also, no throw-away items allowed in the park like plastic bottles. Instead, promote the use of items you would re-use and take home, etc. I'd promise, you'd have a superior quality experience and shoreline. Now, On rivers....one thing that is a no no to rivers based on what we know about their ecology today is channelization...and that is not something I would want to emulate. I will take the meandering Cuyahoga anyday over the channelized Chicago river.

As much as I like this city... (Chi.) It and the state of Illinois stewardship on rivers has been overall, really bad. Worse in many ways than Ohio, or Indiana. Just ask Professor Larry Page... http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/staff/Page.htm Met him a few times... a wealth of knowledge about rivers. He used to teach in Illinois, I believe. He looks at river and sees things the untrained eye cannot see. He's amazing.

Naturally, I am concerned how this will affect the trust in the area. Can't we have a handful of neighborhoods left where this is not knocking on its doors. And some wonder what makes neighbors nosy and police ask questions to suspicious looking activity. Every action stirs a reaction.

Wow! You'd never guess it was such a grand house with the 'remodeling' Yes, we welcome another parking lot.... 21 spaces? What constitutes the need for this? There own business? As much as I like that museum, I particularly do not see people flocking to it. With so many homes covered with aluminum siding or some other crud.... no wonder few realize the value underneath.

This just in..... Tremont artist Jeffry Chiplis shot after ArtWalk CLEVELAND, Ohio --Tremont artist Jeffry Chiplis was reported in critical condition today in the intensive care unit of MetroHealth Medical Center after being shot early this morning after the Friday night Tremont ArtWalk. His wife, Cynthia Chiplis, said witnesses told police that Chiplis was walking up the West Third Street hill around 12:30 ……. Read the rest at: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/06/tremont_artist_jeffry_chiplis.html

Why was that demolished?..... I noticed it the other day. It was sided with some kind of shank siding when there was an interest in "modernizing" such homes. It would have not looked too bad if it were cleaned up and painted well. Is anything going in its space? Another parking lot?

There's better wording you could have chosen to express your displeasure. I'm open to suggestions... I thought I was being nice. How about... &*(&&^%&!!!^&&&^%$*(_)(*)&%^$#%!!@!$$$^&((**!!! :x

^ Awwhh!! I was going to guess Denver, but I never thought a mistake that way off could be possible! I hope they change it again. The photo there now is not something I would use for a national TV show. I'd use more Edgewater views or maybe from the east or from Garfield Monument. That's just my preference, though... I donate one of mine... well of just T.T.

I saw the new photo... Not a very flattering one in my opinion. I could have selected a much better photo than that from people who take photos on this forum.

We just need to fill in the gaps with appropriate things that are functional to the daily needs of residents in and near downtown to complete the puzzle. The foot traffic needs to be "stretched" outside these enclaves.

Here is an article in a recent TOLEDO BLADE publication. It is dated May 30th 2010 and features a great little part about the lesser known fishes in the Toledo Metro area and Maumee watershed. Many of the species can also be found in the Cuyahoga, so I thought I would share this on the thread. I had the opportunity to go on some fish field trips with Mr. Crail who has become a great advocate for our native fishes. TOLEDO BLADE-MAGAZINE-THE OUTDOORS PAGE MAY, 30TH 2010 Bite-size fish! Little fishes can sympathize with the late comedian Rodney Dangerfield, whose trademark gag-line was “I don't get no respect.” Little fishes so often are dismissed with a casual glance as “just minnows.” Big fish regard them as mere bite-sized morsels — as do fishing birds from kingfishers to the herons. Read more by opening up the Adobe link where full color photos are featured! http://www.toledoblade.com/assets/pdf/TO72357530.PDF

^ Where? All I see are the cast members in a photo. Oh, wait... I clicked and saw it... No, that is NOT Cleveland. Looks more like a Tampa.

^ Another project that could prove worthy is Schofield... Haven't heard anything about that lately on that thread.

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I have often thought that without diversifying interspersing shops and other venues/retail...that the downtown will soon look like one giant outdoor food court. ^ MH... Good exhibit.. I will have to pay attention to that particular one when I go. I hope things like that will reduce the pitching of butts on the sidewalks.... standing in doors puffing away.

^ That and a boxing glove on one of those extend arm things coming out of the side for the driver to operate to punch people out of the way! This will be the ultimate safe pedestrian bus!

^ HA!!! Hilarious!!! Great!!!! Made my day!