Etheostoma Caeruleum

As respectfully as I can I must say that this attitude is simplistic. I remember seeing a statistic for one of the distressed Cleveland neighborhoods (I think some young girl had been kidnapped, raped and killed) indicating that there were hundreds of registered sex offenders within one mile of the body and it would take police an inordinate amount of time to interview all of them rather than use other investigative tactics. Can you imagine, hundreds of registered sex offenders. How many felons convicted of violent crimes do you think it takes to ruin a neighborhood? We have to lock these people up permanently. BAd prison food is not going to deter them. Hard matresses is not going to deter them. Guns are not going to deter them. They have already given up on their own humanity. The only thing we can do is lock them up. Well, as respectfully I can reply.....it may be "simplistic"...but it can work and has shown that it works. There are times when answers to given problems are easier than we think if all would do their part. Because of our block watching, we were able to evict tenants from an apartment building that were a growing and potentially bad problem. The building was cleaned up...but requires ongoing watch and we cannot afford to sit on our laurels with a place like that---and nearby residents know it. Sometimes there is no Lone Ranger that's going to ride in and save the day...that Lone Ranger is within all of us to do our part to watch and not hide in our homes getting doped up with television and eats. Again, getting involved to make a difference does not mean everyone has to chose to get strapped. Lastly, it is no more simplistic an idea than thinking arming everyone will solve the problem either. I really do not want to have my 82 year old Mother having to worry about whether or not she will have to engage herself in a shoot out!

^ Good points. On the other side of what I posted about neighbors getting involved....at the same time, police cannot simply wait 'til after the fact to show up...or unless its anything short of murder. This is what I was talking about when I mentioned nipping the small in the bud before it becomes the worse. Prevention, prevention, prevention...the resources available also need to be used in that way, but to do that, a new philosophy must me adopted within the department that recognizes the importance of prevention....and replace the old one that won;t show up unless they hear the shots, so to speak. One other thing...... Just as citizens should be understanding of the needs and dilemmas of the department....this does not happen w/o the police department understanding the needs of citizens, afterall, they are citizens as well---And sometimes no matter how much people take that buck passing statement of "complain to the politicians" and do it....sometimes, STILL nothing gets done. I live in Cleveland most of the time, however, help family out in Warren a few days out of the week...and I can use that city as a classic example that despite citizen outcry to their elected officials to create the needed changes...despite the solutions being handed to them on a silver patter and despite people attending the appropriate meetings... despite the department given the tools they need to be effective......The police department is still a neglectful, non-responsive failure. From dealing with them frequently, it is NOT always because council has not armed them with what they need,or citizens did not speak up.... it is the pass the buck, "I don't care about prevention...and unless its anything short of murder I won't show up" mentality from the chief that has infected the rest of the department. No leadership, no example setting... So I cannot always blame a council or the politicians for the ineffectiveness of a department. Sometimes in Warren the case was that council was blaming police...police were blaming council....and guess what? Nothing gets done. The CPD is a breath of fresh air compared to Warren. Whether Warren had the resources or not...they have been ineffective for a long time and a lot had to do with the Chief. At the same time....All this does not make me acknowledge any less the points I made earlier..and the points MTS echoed about citizen involvement.

Question... Does RTA still have a bus that goes to Chagrin Falls? Also, if one cannot get responses from RTA's site ...or here..then where does one go? Not responding at all is what attracts the negative attention and I just end up having a limit with giving someone the benefit of the doubt. This is not personal...its all business. If they cannot respond and are busy...a quick notification is professional. If you have time to sit on the toilet..you have time to do that.

Love the rendering photo...what a nice building.

Which all brings us back to many of the reasons WHY ridership decreases lending not a very good argument to favor public transport that all of inherently want to support. The little things go unaddressed and culminate into the bigger things that see the drop in support. So, how is not addressing such in their best interest as an agency. Bit by bit, as 327 puts it.....we will see many working for RTA disappearing as well, the same way the country c's did, but I won't be sure its for the right reasons.

Citizens can help protect themselves by getting involved and this does not mean you have to pack a load or brandish one or get into a rootin' tootin' heee hawww shoot out that results from male testosterone run wild. Block Watch...keep eyes on streets...call police as the more calls they get in a given area, the more they will be compelled to respond. Too many people want to place all the load on the cops these days and at the same time not do their part to help the cause. They cannot be everywhere all the time...so, if you see, or hear something that just does not look right.. Call the police! This message as relayed by a member of the second district itself. Small things that many people see as no reason to call police often lead to the climaxes that have someone getting hurt. So, we need to start nipping in the bud that which can escalate; and to do that it helps to become familiar with circumstances that can become ugly. Involved eyes on streets can do a lot to help.

Agreed. The lust for parking is a testament of the culture and times upon which they have been raised. (Auto-dependent with little to no transportation alternatives) If everything is cyclical and we get the alternatives we need someday in this region...there may be some who look back at this one day and say.. "What were they thinking?"

I understand working with the current need, however, I prefer decks with usable space. Surface lots are a joke...and there is no guarantee that if we demolish buildings on St. Clair that a bunch of new development will occur. We have plenty of fill to do right now and its not happening. Look at the classic prime example on prime space right downtown with all those pitiful surface lots near the square and west of it near the WD. If you must create a surface lot, make it appealing for pedestrians as well..... a work of art with some trees/benches bricked areas..and if possible, keep it in the rear of a building so as to not have some giant frontage setback...AND... for GOD'S sake maintain it well! The ones downtown are always littered...they're rippled and busted up seas of impermeable ground which sends more crap into water. Nothing is uglier than those lots, even had we left the aging structures.

One small thought... This looks like a really nice project. I hope that the historic buildings can be incorporated into it. I just wish that these projects were more carved in stone before they are announced...get us all anxious...then later on discover its not happening anytime soon....or worse, not happen at all. :-(

What if he suggests someone he knows will be bad....then this person gets hired, and LeBron leaves anyway? What a double cross that would be! How about World B. Free!

This building wold look fantastic restored. I love the character on this one. Of all the warehouses this city has/had...there are some really worth saving...many other just the same old same old.. But this one is special and worth saving.

This is sad. A big part of the eye candy for the street was the addition of the trees. Other trees thrive downtown and so this had me baffled. I knew something was not right. I hope they are replaced because dead trees only could only invite more negative image of the project and I even I do not want that...And yes..as MayDay indicates... some good questions/concerned lately...not quite the feedback to be hoped for.

Lots of concealed carry permits in Detroit. Don't get me wrong, things would certainly be worse if Detroiters couldn't arm themselves but the real solution is to put animals in a cage, permanently. You're insulting the civilized animals... They don't behave like the human uncivilized animals! :lol:

I can only envision the kind of scene this would make. This is the Archie Bunker argument.

I know a lot of people have huge misconceptions about them and until they become fully informed as to what they are really all about....the comments that have them made out to be head bashing vigilantes that will draw a negative image will be out of ignorance---But, The Guardian Angels are emerging in Cleveland and do patrols at hours when problems may likely occur. Their visual presence does 90% of the trick. They are worldwide and have organizations in many world class cities. They are like a block watch on steroids, engage neighbors and make more connections---as well as educate neighbors how to get involved to make the neighborhood safer and remain perfectly anonymous. We invited the regional leader, who is a news anchor in Toledo (Aaron Brielbeck) to speak at a Franklin/Clinton Block Club and after he spoke, he cleared up the misconceptions and those who were skeptical about them now welcomed their participation. Police mostly welcome it too, because they can be of great help to police. Eyes on the streets is a key they promote. I was impressed and even considered getting the in-depth training to join. They do not accept just anyone. Scott.. a compelling story... So very aggravating and disappointing. If you want, maybe it would be a good idea to report this to the Cleveland Chapter of the Guardians. They will patrol areas where residents speak up about such things. If you want the number to the contact, PM me.

Same thought. Some of the best green spaces on the East Coast have towering, mature trees. Amen!

When things are solid, I will mention about the above. The point in saying what I said was to let people know that the project is alive and well and additional components are planned, so stay tuned. Its king of like telling a partner that you have a surprise for them, but you cannot say what it is yet or the surprise will be spoiled.

The fact hat these jokes still circulate demonstrates ignorance/unawareness on behalf of those still clinging onto them and regurgitating the same old same old stale material---And because of that, to me, the joke is on them.

^ Great.... any bit helps anytime!

Any official word on all the dead trees along the EC/HL?

This IS "vintage Parma charm!"...Just the kind I was talking about, and for some reason, I am thinking of something else.....the Mary Tyler Moore show comes to mind when the news staff used to go to Steak and Ale for dinner and lunch. That type of interior has the "family restaurant of the 70's charm" I have been talking about. The booths are a good mention. I guess maybe it is an acquired taste. So, this leads to maybe another idea for Best Kept Secrets..and that is, places in and around Cleveland that bare this kind of "beauty" and nostalgia of that era and is still maintained in good condition, or made to look like that. How many can anyone name? Here is a You Tube video commercial set in just such a place.... Notice how everyone actually drank beer out of a glass! Love that.... the mugs and all.....adds some class! To me, there is no better way to enjoy a nice cold beer. Something about the experience it gives the mind. The beer, with a collar about 1/2 inch makes for a nice aroma too.

I like the fact that they are thinking outside the box and not just marketing the area to college students. To me just saying "college" students would scare off those who might want to move downtown and be in an area that is affordable, young, hip and upcoming. This is a great opportunity to build a neighborhood from ground up that not just serves CSU but the community at large. The "livier" parts of downtown didn't just become livlier overnight. We've all discussed how the city needs more studio and one bedroom units, this is an opportunity to put them in a place with tons of growth potential. An area with good transportation and centrally located to the CBD, NCH and AsiaTown. I just hope they market the development and the are properly. As this could bridge the area of eastern downtown and the arts/loft district as everyday I completely agree. I like the catering to more than just college students..and the attempt to make the place livelier. I am only concerned about the possible saturation component as I pointed out up thread a bit.

^ I hope you're right. Persoanlly, I think it would be the king of tack to use the retail areas in TC for this. Downtown shopping is an element we cannot drive the final nail in the coffin on; that is, if we want to be a multi-faceted and dynamic place.

Speaking of tacky....Mama S's reminds me of the typical Italian or other Euro immigrant thing to do between the late 50's and early 70's....remodel the basement with a bar and paneling...add a kitchen and small tables and tray tables (like the kinds we used at Graduation parties) many chairs.... checkered tile floor and maybe some table cloths and tacky lights. Indeed, Mamas is tacky, but the charm lies in that tackiness because to me, it reminds me of a comforting time of the basement remodel job where the food was fantastic! This may ring a bell for some.. I don't expect everyone to see what I see in this kind of tackiness! :-D

^ That would be a travesty in a downtown that is already severely lacking retail in the center core.