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One of the best waterfront restaurants we had, in my opinion was Hornblowers.... I used to perform aquarium maintenance there for years. To my knowledge the place sat empty for a long time... I wonder why, if such a scene is so desirable for such an establishment, that no one seemed to grab that spot. It was really classy.

Just wanted to comment on the concrete issues....I really hope, that on what is supposed to be the shining star of Cleveland public transport...that asphalt is not going to remain for long on the concrete as patches. To temporarily patch until it is done right is one thing...but if left that way is not going to last. The right way to repair concrete is with concrete. Again, the little things that add up to be a lot. It kind of reminds me of the duct tape on the propeller in Major League.

I won't post until I see them. Otherwise it is futile and would rather send letters of support down to appropriate avenues. The energy exhausted on here can be channeled in more productive ways to help the subject matter.

Here are a couple more article postings...One of many that keep coming in daily showing interest in this project. I am confident it will be a big re-birth of this building and a great amenity for downtown. If these were already posted, please excuse. http://www.grist.org/article/the-mall-gets-fresh http://www.huffingtonpost.com/halle-tecco/from-lemons-to-lemonade-c_b_509238.html

Some above expressions...... "In addition to the potential business losses, there are some major things the city will have to address, such as the closing and management of the city-owned dump on Memphis." ....and.... "Another blow to Brooklyn. The EPA ordered the city dump to close within seven days." ??? If we have to mourn for the loss of a city dump I pity a population who does that. These kinds of jobs and/or revenues aren't worth killing your water and yourself. Maybe we should try and focus on creating a workforce who is skilled in the art of making products from recycled materials in a state of the art facility that produces marginal amounts of byproduct. Seriously, if a dump is the best a given area can do for economic development, that is really pathetic. Not that every place else is without flaw....and maybe I am mistaken but comments that mourn the loss of such things is why some people laugh at the stereotypical mediocre midwest thinking in how we are poor stewards of our environment, or what is party to giving us the stereo-type, anyway.

Is this what this site has been reduced to? No..seriously...How romantic to think so much of her that you would post on here to find her! Good luck with this! I wish I were 21 again. Uhh..wait..no I don't! :lol:

There are ones currently close enough...east and west within a stones throw, nearly. Personally, I like looking out onto the lake and seeing wide open views with little presence of human invasion. A few sailboats amidst the sunsets are nice...but marinas are essentially parking lots on water, but that's my personal preference.

Shame... I worked in the TC theater when it first opened...and the management was HOYTS out of Australia. (I have attended Hoyts here in Australia and they are top notch run theaters...I never had a problem) When TC first opened.... I remember clearly in orientations how it was emphasized that they would not tolerate that kind of behavior and if it occurred, the offenders would be escorted out of the place by security. Ushers would walk througeach theater on rounds about every 10 minutes. I have not been back there in a while but if it is as you describe, then management needs to grow a spine there.....and in any place where such behavior is overlooked or has management pretending like it does not exist, otherwise left unabated, you can kiss the theaters good bye. Just watch. If anyone has experiences like this in these places, by all means....call, visit or write to the management about it.

Now for some constructive critique on the theater (Capitol)...are we allowed to do this? Overall, like the place, but...as I went twice... I was not impressed with the fact that the decor was rather bland...No old time movie murals or posters fore an added feel. That would be nice. Sound delivery used to be an art to get the right QUALITY of sound...there is a huge difference between quality and quantity...and like many theaters these days, they seemed to have jumped on this monkey see monkey do thing as the sound system is merely LOUD and not that of quality. A silent film was more like an acoustic assault. I also noticed that the seats seemed to have had corners cut on them... You will notice that there were, I believe, 2 anchors on each side of the seats to be anchored into the concrete on the floor with a bolt.....and only two were utilized on each side---and whilst this may be fine for 1930 when obesity was not everywhere within eyeshot in America.... In this day and age, those seats may suffer. Lastly, where are all these so called independent and progressive films I heard where to be a main feature ala Cedar Lee? I wrote to management about the comments, along with several other people in a movie group I was with.

90 years.... cute! haha... :lol: Shame we think anything over 40 is ancient... considering the businesses in the old country that have been around for hundreds of years. I hope something good will re-occupy the place.

^^ Agree on all points however to suggest that people move to suburbs is because of 'racism' is a rather prejudiced assumption. While it certainly may apply often, we cannot broad brush things like this without in a way, beoming too assumptive. If I want to move out of the city and purchase 100 acres of forest surrounding me because I happen to love being nestled in the middle of nature---AND because of the fact that I might have had unruly neighbors who happened to be of a different ethnicity than myself---and I simply didn't want to deal with the behavior anymore after many attempts of peaceful rectification/abatement of the problem through the right channels.... Does my choice to leave suddenly make me a racist? On the same coin, if I were to leave a given core city and flee to the 100 acre tract because I happen to be of Italian/Irish decent...and the neighborhood I left happened to be nearly 100% black, say..... and I was threatened with racial slures like "honky"... "cracker"... or "WOP" ...would the logic that people flee for the suburbs because they're racist and/or racism apply in that scenario? Or are we subtly suggesting that no one else is subject to being discriminated against except blacks? It is so easy to deal a race cad these days and many times it is simply unfounded and unwaranted....and I for one won't buy it or give up the right to express a view or opinion that relates to the topic just because it does not fit into someone else's paramaters/ideas of what being a non-racist is. . But as the moderator said... Maybe this is not the thread for such discusion as I am sure I will be labled something now.

^ Very nice.... and as I posted on CDC.... And the plethora of stupid comments on Cleveland Dot Com---by those who have apparently no clue of what little things do to help to ceate a better city--- never fail to amuse!

I have a ton of photos for this thread and will continue to post... To avoid confusion, "Darling" Harbour is named not because it is cute or charming......Rather, its name is taken from a person's name. As borrowed from their website... www.darlingharbour.com ............. "The Name, Until the arrival of Europeans, the Cadigal people, the original inhabitants of the area around Sydney Cove, called Darling Harbour Tumbalong (place where seafood is found).When Sydney was founded in 1788, the bay was called Long Cove because of its unusual length. The large shell middens left by generations of Cadigal people in the area soon saw the name Cockle Bay come into everyday use. In 1826 the bay was again renamed-this time becoming Darling Harbour in honour of Governor Ralph Darling-Sydney's Governor at the time." Oh, and surprisingly, I came out clean in that first photo of the Rainbow Lorikeets! Notice the one on the hat hanging down looking right in my face checking things out.

Just wanted to mention, as I neglected to for so long... The Cleveland Police Museum in the Justice Center...all kinds of interesting historical displays of police history in the city including the original mold made from one of the beheaded victims of the Torso Murders. I believe the museum is free. Is it still there?

Folks, this is just the beginning of this plan.... Much is in the works and I think everone will be really happy with the vision for the place. The idea to do this there is less than a year old so with the grant, the initial installations and interest shown in this has been really positive.

For more information about the dark side of that so called 'hobby' and its frequent links and associations.....and how it is contributing to destroying the quality of life in neighborhoods and much more illuminating factual material...suggested reading: www.lowertheboom.org and www.noiseoff.org I worked with neighborhood groups/police on that issue since '05 and on average, 1 in 4 of those vehicles stopped for profiling themselves.... and drawing all the attention to themselves by producing excessively loud, obnoxious, anti-social, and imposing noise with their "audio weapons" producing a kind of "audio terrorism" or "acoustic assault" if you will.... will yield many other illegal goodies and goings on. Physically, the kind of noise, low frequency sound coupled with bass is extremely unhealthy to the body. In fact, here is a great editorial written on that: BOOM-A-BOOM.... THUMPITY THUMP! It's five minutes after three in the morning and here you come, booming and thumping down my street, rattling my windows, shaking my doors, and making sure, as you cruise by ever so slowly, that no one sleeps while you're on the prowl. My double-paned thermal windows are closed, my ear plugs are in, but there is no defense against your invasion. Love those lyrics, too - the one four-letter combination that functions so conveniently as verb, noun, gerund, participle - the one-word-serves-all approach for the poet of limited vocabulary. You are breaking the law, violating the peace, damaging your ears and those of the helpless babies you strap like sacrifices into the rear seats of your tricked-out cars. In 4 or 5 years your hearing will start to go but you won't notice because you live life so loud all the time, it won't be a problem to just ratchet up the decibels another notch or two. Your children will go to school with impaired hearing and learning disabilities because your selfish addiction to loud is more important to you than their wellbeing. How much will this end up costing society? All over the country police departments strain to respond to complaints for what used to be soothed over with an apology, a polite request, a little courtesy. Tax dollars now go to field a constant barrage of angry citizen complaints, night and day, because no one any longer gets a good night's sleep, or keeps a thought in his head at the computer, or enjoys his front porch or even his back yard because of your relentless barbaric yawp. Whole towns have lost their sense of self because of you and your unholy racket. Hospitals, school zones, libraries -- these are all the same to you. You do not discriminate. Everyone gets to suffer. Car alarms go off. Babies wake up shrieking in the night. The sick and the dying call out, "Make it stop, make it stop." Sensitive humans find themselves with nausea, trembling, chest pain, a racing heart; blood pressures soar. Innocent animals are frightened. Police, fire, and EMT vehicles go unheard by you at intersections because you're too busy imposing your little hobby on those who never asked for it, in your roving night club! Yes, you do good work. You are efficient, you are thorough, and above all you are as constant as the morning star - we can all go to bed every night confident that you will come by, regular as the newspaper carrier and the mail man, but a whole lot louder. And should you get a ticket, how you scream! It's freedom of speech! you bark. I have a right! you shout. I paid a lot of money for this system and I'm going to use it! you protest. You resent being picked on, singled out, noticed. But if you don't want all that attention, why are you making so much noise? Why are you making so much noise? Do you feel unloved? Unwanted? Unsuccessful? Unnoticed? Do you have to call attention to yourself to be sure you're really here? Or maybe you're just young and foolish and think making a big racket is just harmless fun. Whatever your reasons, noise obviously works for you, satisfies you, makes your life worth living. And the rest of us?.... well who cares, right? It seems you use your so called 'freedoms' to hurt and not help others--and you actually think you're entitled to do what you do. It seems the angrier we get, the more pain we feel, the happier you are. And that is good enough for you.

Too bad. Anywhere the extension could really be viable and give access to those who do not have it outside the city proper and inner rings...the concept remains a dream. People who rejected it, I am sure a part of their not wanting it is that they have this fear factor of it being a means of transportation for the unsavory gaining access into their areas...and I can see some of the validity in that as it only takes a few bad seeds to start the concerns of such.....BUT---left alone with no other expansion....the inner city criminal gangs, etc. they fear most, actually DO end up having more access to RTA than people who would like to go to work each day and appreciate the system for what it can offer no matter who they are or where they live.

I second SFBob and although I am a huge Cleveland sports team supporter, player of many in my lifetime.........I am sitting in a Sydney medical office awaiting my girlfriend to finish work..... and was talking with others on break in this office---who asked about where I was from---about just how much people in N.E. Ohio seem to think sports is what solely defines us. I showed them some of the posts and even as sports crazy as Sydney is with AFL, RU, And RL (Rugby).... they are laughing at the ideology that is presented in a couple of these recent posts that demonstrates how in general, many locals in Cleveland center the city's whole existence and well being/mental state of mind around the the success or non-success of their sports teams---and the idea that somehow we should build our economy around them, or it IS built around them......and Mr. James, or that so much of our economy's success/failure DOES ride on how good or not good they are..bla..bla...bla! I have to laugh too and say that the idea that sports makes or breaks our economy and somehow determines if we are great city is only going to make us a non-dynamic city. If this is true, that we really do ride so much of our city's success and life's happiness on sports...... then I strongly suggest we really look at the many other aspects that can/should/do make a city great--and what we have that makes us special. Diversify, re-invent and not be a one trick pony in our thinking---or type cast ourselves as a shot, beer, mill, and sports only town. You get what you aspire to be. If you think like average Joe's than you will be average Joe. If you wonder why people look at you as mediocre or average...then quit thinking like that and set down the nachos and turn off the tv and listen up..... If we are depending on the likes of sports teams to make or break the economy, Or simply just to DEFINE who we are...make/break our spirits, etc...then that is really pathetic and wreaks of mediocrity. I know you're all smarter than this and better than that. C'mon folks! It really is laughable because Cleveland is sooooo much more than sports. People who live in Cleveland N.E. Ohio really take for granted all it can offer besides LeBron James. Personally, I am someone who would rather lose a sports team than something like the Museum of Art, great park system, quality of our lake's health....or anything of historical value. Let's find other ways and means to generate revenue...and quit making LeBron James your economic cash cow because by doing so, we set ourselves up for disappointment if he chooses not to remain loyal. Then we will be scurrying around looking for the next such figure to bank our hopes on and let with the mentality that says.. "I cannot be happy..and Cleveland will never BE, until we win whatever" In the meantime life is passing us by.... Maybe we need to discover that there is far more to life than sitting on our asses getting fat as a spectator and watching sports. There IS life before...AND after sports. Sorry, I had to slaughter a sacred cow. Anyway, you did make some people in Sydney chuckle! Don't worry, I've got your backs! Speaking of sitting on butts.. I better get off mine! Sorry for the long rant, but can't do much but wait in the office at the moment. :-o Go Cavaliers!

He's not going anywhere unless, YES, he has some other interest than winning a championship..and if he does, life goes on.... Afterall, how many have we won with him? Who beat us last year in the semi-finals without him? Think about it.

Nice video.. I would, however, if the video is hoping to help draw interest to the city, disable the comments on You Tube because its inviting a runaway train wreck of ineptness....as in the third comment from the top. Also, I wish the residents would actually learn HOW to pronounce the name of the city...pronounce it for the name of whom it was named for..and that is settler John Young... not John "YUNC" so let's try slowing it down to say... YOUNGS-Town...and not YUNCS-Town! Sounds classier. Ha!

^ I agree. Frustration makes people do amazing things.... and the vast majority of fans who go to the games are not causing any trouble. I am not excusing bad behavior at all. It was classless to cheer Anderson's injury that time. However, can we say that the entire stadium was doing this? If so, I am ashamed. Nevertheless, this whole expansion thing with rebuilding every three years or so has been mostly a circus at fan's expense. Hopefully the Holmgren era can get this franchise back to where it should be. It will take some time so we should not expect too much too soon. As far as I am concerned, the original Browns era ended when they moved...and me being superstitious, maybe we should have just started with a new name instead of severely poop staining a once respectable franchise legacy.

^^ Its an ongoing problem. Originally discovered in '88 in the upper Great Lakes, they arrived here via shipping from Asia--and do have a place in the food chain, but just not here. For a while now, several mechanical methods on how to control them from clogging up water intake systems has been implemented. To control them from smothering nesting beds for native fish and muscles and other native aquatic life, possible control methods have been discussed like poisoning (which I am not a fan of because of other repercussions) and even harvesting them for food! None of the native animals have been able to keep pace with their widespread and fast reproduction so they are likely here to stay, but definitely need to be curbed. Introducing other non-native species to control this one is part of how a webchain can become so mucked up in the first place: (e.g. introduction of carp to control vegetation) Not a good practice. Remediation may simply call for more harvesting and prevention of further spread. Another big threat is the round goby where there are literally thousands that can be netted along the shores of Lake Erie. They have outcompete native sculpins for food among other things. Granted, the animals themselves aren't the bad guys. They simply hitched a ride via commerce on the lakes, (shipping intake valve systems, hulls, etc.) but the result is decimating the fish population. Hmmmm.... invasives like this in water and on land (emerald ashborer) part of the high cost of global markets, I have to wonder. But we are not the only to experience problems with this. Old school Europe had their own share but the spread was not wide and in order to understand why, you can find that amidst the much information online like here: http://www.med.wayne.edu/wayne%20medicine/wm99/zebra_mussels.htm where this professor actually mentions some benefits of them...but the negatives far far outweigh any benefits. His benefits mostly surround the study of the life cycle of the animal itself--but he maintains understanding their lifecycle and history is crucial to their effective control. The particular website notes: "Then the invasion started. Scientists believe that in about 1985, a freighter in Europe took on ballast water, giving the empty vessel the added weight necessary for a stable ocean passage to America. The ballast water also contained some zebra mussels, which have been common throughout Europe for more than a century. The freighter then traveled to southeastern Michigan and discharged its ballast water, along with the foreign stowaways, into Lake St. Clair, which connects by rivers to Lakes Huron and Erie." Many native fish fed on the native muscles in the lakes--but these muscle populations have been affected by the invaders, hence decline of food supply and then a decline of fish...then a decline in anything associated with the independent fishing economy throughout the Great Lakes. The video outlines all this very well and there are several resources online which explain the details of the problem. ^^ Yes! There is a native freshwater jellyfish in Ohio...about the size of a dime and looking just like its saltwater cousin common jellyfish you see along beaches. They are indicators of very stable and quality water conditions--and are found in ponds. A wealth of information on native fishes and other aquatic life for our Cleveland region and nationally for North America can be found at www.nanfa.org

If anyone has ever thought zebra muscles were somehow a benefactor to Lake Erie in that 'they cleaned-up the lake'.... nothing could be farther from the truth.... Check out this great new video available on the following website "Green Planet Films" (also a clip) entitled: "Lake Invaders: The Fight for Lake Huron" The same threats are posed for Lake Erie. http://greenplanetfilms.org/product_info.php?products_id=698

You should do that to answer any more of these stupid lists; especially WTAM, Clear Channel...and the rest of the corporate controlled media...and personally to Mr. Trivisonno, who I might add is an embarrassment to talk radio and to Cleveland. If there is a list that serves up the top ten worst talk shows in the country, I am sure his show would make that list. Now that would be legit! Maybe there is a top ten list for most skewed and misleading reporting of top ten lists.. I am sure Forbes would make first place!

Wow! were these photo shopped or just taken at 'the magic moment' or made to look exactly like the eye remembered them? Spectacular!