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Deech, I gave you that response because if you had read the topic, you would realize that the design is still up in the air. No offense intended.

Definitely. There is money waiting in the bank for each station. Look for the E.120 to move to Mayfield if the Triangle plans dictate that it would be a good idea (everyone agrees, save a few Little Italy residents). The Cedar station is waiting for the MLK Corridor study to conclude before it begins a design phase.

Case has continued to do site prep at the West Quad. If they weren't confident that the project would go forward, I doubt they would continue to ready the site.

^an innerbelt bridge.

MOCA picks finalists in architect search Friday, March 17, 2006 Steven Litt The Museum of Contemporary Art has named six finalists in a global search for an architect to design an iconic new home for the institution in University Circle. The finalists, winnowed from a field of 32, hail from New York, London, Los Angeles and Boston. They run the stylistic gamut from cutting-edge geometries to curvaceous organic forms. None has the name recognition of star architects such as Frank Gehry or Daniel Libeskind, but that's the point: MOCA wants to find a star on the way up...

Case, developer still talking about West Quad project Friday, March 17, 2006 Tom Breckenridge Plain Dealer Reporter President Edward Hundert's resignation and a budget squeeze have added a dose of uncertainty to the university's development plans in University Circle. Case and Forest City Enterprises Inc. were to have a final development contract in place by the end of 2005 for the $125 million West Quad biotechnology campus. They missed that deadline and say talks continue. Construction was planned for this year on the 14-acre site, once the home of Mt. Sinai Medical Center. To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: [email protected], 216-999-4695

Cleveland has 11 Fortune 500s. Here's a link to the largest employers in the area. http://www.clevelandgrowth.com/pdf/factsheets/largest%20employers.pdf

^their HQs are in Pittsburgh.

PBL's set back matches the other buildings' setbacks at that corner. If it were any closer to the curb, you wouldn't be able to see much of the building. The location is pretty poor anyways. PBL should have been at at spot where you could see the entire facade. As is, no one is able to see the entire front because its so close to the buildings across the street. The best views are from Wade Oval and my apartment :) Seeing it from a far is pretty cool. The roof is neat and the sun does crazy things to it in the morning and evening.

Unless things have changed, Nashville has a commuter train that leaves twice in the morning for downtown and then has two return trips at night. (I used to live in Nashville and just moved up from Memphis.) Light rail would not work in Nashville because almost all of the city is set up on a suburban grid. Park and Ride-type rail is Nashville's only hope. Additionally, Nashville has a deep-seeded suburban mentality. I remember when the State was considering creating a 1% income tax to balance the budget, there was a group of 30 SUVs that circled the State capitol building for two days. Protesters through rocks at the windows. It was crazy. The suburbanites mobilize in Nashville to protect their way of life. Additionally, the stone beneath the street surfaces will keep Nashville from ever putting in subway lines. It would cost too much to blast it out to build rail lines. (My father-in-law worked for the transit authority in Nashville). Bus service is pretty bad. Some MTA officers would suggest that it would be cheaper to buy all the citizens cars instead of continuing to subsidize the bus system. Its a shame. Nashville's traffic is twice as bad as Cleveland's. The street grids force everyone onto the same roads.

^agreed. It would be optimal is the mini-mart/alcohol supplier across the street could be purchased and turned into housing. As is, the street serves as a pathway for scruffy-looking men and their brown-bag beverage holders. That is intimidating to some homebuyers.

^This corner is very important for the Circle. A lot of thought would need to go into designing a residential building. Situated between Severance, CMA and PBL, you wouldn't want to try to upstage those structures. At the same time, you wouldn't want to be a cheap imitation of Judson Manor. The site has a large footprint. If it hugged the sidewalk, it would look out of place with its neighbors. It it is set back too far, it could look too suburban. Its a unique site that deserves a lot of thought.

I am glad that Wolstein is looking into this. We have one successful project--EcoVillage. I believe that it sold pretty well. Considering that it is in a dicey neighborhood, it appears that people are willing to take a little risk to live in a green-house. If the green residential units were available in more attractive locations, I don't see why they wouldn't sell. There are some more up front costs, but the total monthly payments are significantly lower due to the cheap utility costs. When my wife and I were looking to buy, we were astounded by the $27 monthly gas bill. If the immediate neighborhood had been a little bit friendlier, we would have purchased a home there. (but, we are definitely excited to move from the Heights into our Ohio City Victorian in late spring!)

What is Centerville like? I always imagined a Shaker Heights-esque place. Is it newer and more suburban? Still growing?

Compared to new construction, its cheaper to renovate the old. Especially with the historic tax credits if you are going to do rentals.

Will there be an AJ Hawk wing?

I heard that it will be saved and its space utilized for a museum for bad architecture. The keynote address at the museum's opening will be given by the architect who designed that Louisville-jenga thingie.

Jones Day

The suburban park & rides are included to alleviate traffic problems during construction.

yeah, Detroit feels left out. :) I agree. I get pretty tired of this forum when we lower the level of discussion.

I assumed the metro area was included.

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thanks for the info.

The law school concept looks pretty bad. For that matter, so does the OSU architecture school. Dramatic architectural statements are not always dramatically pleasing to the eye.

http://www.universitycircle.org/ASSETS/ASSETS_FILES/ucmap.pdf #13 is the location.