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I don't think you started an argument. Its just a discussion. If you are from Cleveland, which it doesn't seem like you are, I would highly suggest Levin. Its a great place for people who care about Cleveland. I have no experience with the other schools, so I have no right to comment.

^I believe that that there are some very expensive utilities issues at the northwest corner of E 55th & I-490 that would prevent pushing the blvd to the north. Additionally, ODOT/HNTB are racking their brains to avoid any as many takes as possible in Slavic Village. KJP, have you forwarded any of your ideas on to RTA?

I've never heard much about urban planning school rankings. I'd be curious to hear what Mr. Good Day says about UC. He got his BA there.

^cool. Thanks Mayday.

I am very happy that these housing units will be affordable. It seems that we have a considerable amount of pricier housing entering the market in Cleveland. We need to provide housing for all sections of the market. Also, while infill in Glenville, etc is good, I am glad that there are projects that will effectively create a new neighborhood. I think that the target market will be more likely to buy into an area that has a new feel to it than an area that has an half-empty feel to it. This project is in an area that is sandwiched between a highway and ?? I am not sure what the southern border is like, but I feel that it is cut off from the the rest of the Clark neighborhood. Is there a project website? They ought to adverstise on PURE. It would give them greater visibility.

BA Kenyon College-Psychology '96 JD University of Memphis Law School JD '05 (licensed to practice law in Ohio) MUPDD Cleveland State University Levin College-Urban Planning '07 projected I currently work in the planning field.

I wonder how much in the past ODOT has partnered with RTA.

Cleveland State's Levin College of Urban Affairs has been consistently ranked #2 in the nation. I have been greatly surprised how much it has to offer outside of the classroom. Its definitely worth checking out.

Looks like there are some serious hurdles to overcome if this project is to go forward. Brancatelli's worries are the biggest concern. I would bet that the project would not go forward if the Slavic Village takes are not lowered considerably. The article mentions four churches. I believe those are non-traditional church structures (empty storefronts renovated for church use).

The sale went through about two months ago. I know that they are studying whether or not to demolish the Breuer building. The idea behind the project was to save money by consolidating offices and avoiding paying rent. Because of that reason, I wouldn't expect that the consolidation would take place in the next couple of years. However, it should take about 2 years to renovate/build once they determine the best option and find a developer.

Is OSU your only option? There is a good number of Cleveland State graduate urban planning students on this site.

mrnyc, Next Thursday's PD will discuss "What does a Cleveland developer owe its home city?" While it is greatly disheartening that FC has done nothing on Scranton Peninsula, the fact that they are sitting on it does suggest that they feel its value will go up someday. If it were a hopeless property, I would think that FC would want to rid itself of the land and reinvest in other projects.

Deech, While you have all the right to believe or not believe in Cleveland, either your evidence is flawed or you don't understand the process that is necessary to bring a project to fruition. Public Square: While the idea was kicked around, the city does not feel like this is the best idea. Hullet cranes and Canal Basin Park: With the recent legislation and funding strategy, this project has never appeared closer to reality than it is presently. League Park: Less than a year into a private funding campaign to raise $18 million, it is too premature to judge the success of this effort. Trolleys: Um, this was announced just a few weeks ago. I would give it more time. Pittsburgh convention center: Pittsburgh is bleeding cash. Many are doubting that city's decision to go the direction that they did. I would rather that Cleveland make the correct financial decision before jumping into a $400 million+ obligation. Anyways, I like that the convention board is looking at how to make this more than just a convention center. There are various other projects that are just about to begin or are in the silent phase and not yet announced to the public. In my view, things are looking better than they have in a long time. From the tone of your posts, it appears that enjoy being negative about Cleveland. In the end, its your decision whether or not to enjoy living in this city. It has a lot to offer and enjoy.

Stark mentioned a while ago that he thought a Y-shaped developement would be the best idea. The stem of the "Y" being Scranton Peninsula and Tower City; WHD and Gateway/Euclid being the two arms of the Y.

Believe, There is a nice sized army of us in this city.

I know some stuff about zoning, but not enough. A variance can get you just about anything. They are very political. Some times you have to satisfy some stated criteria in order to qualify for the variance. You would have to read up on the city's zoning code. Outside of a variance, it is more difficult. It takes a lot more to get the zoning changed to allow for the desired use. Zoning overlays are simply a type of zoning that allows for mixed use. Non-conforming uses are another way to get around zoning, but they wouldn't apply to this situation. Non-conforming Uses apply when you have a use and the zoning subsequently changes. The non-conforming use is generally permitted to remain unless its a nuissance. That's all I'll mention for now. There's more, but I don't feel like writing a textbook-style answer at the moment.

I don't have as much to add, but.. My wife and I just had our first child 3 1/2 months ago. When we buy a home, it will either be in Cleveland or Cleveland Hts. Schools will not factor into our decision. I grew up in the Catholic schools and am comfortable with that system. Additionally, tuition cost should not be a problem. If we settle down in Ohio City (50-50), I would like to send my child to Urban Community School. It is an affordable, liberal and diverse school that is run by a very progressive nun. Tuition is on a sliding scale, with a pay-as-you-can system. I would not consider the Cleveland public schools as an option. I will not choose the catholic school system because of religion, but I will select it because it is the best option. Inner-city catholic schools are mostly non-catholic. My uncle is a priest. When he was a pastor in Akron, 27 of the 29 eighth graders were not catholic.

Ask Blinker. He knows a lot about tours ;) I should get over there and take some pictures.

Its not that the homes are that great. The street grid is what makes this area interesting. The area has a Tremont feel to it (minus the chic reputation). I am interested to see what the new elementary school will look like once its completed. I hope that it fits in with the historic character.

Birdtown boundaries: North: Madison Ave West: Madison park East: 117th South: Redline I don't know if these are the official boundaries, but I know the area well because my mother grew up in this area. It was largely settled by Slovak Catholics who worked in the area's factories. There are a bunch of churches. There are two catholic churches across the street from one another: one for the slovaks and one for the poles. St. Cyril and Methodius still has monthly slovak masses. My grandpa had a second law office on Madison where he would serve all the slovak-speaking clients during the evenings. The 11-story Fedor Manor is named for him. My grandma hates the name 'Birdtown'. I could go on...

The Jay Hotel project has been silent for a while now. The last thing that I saw was a mention of it in the developer's spring newsletter. I emailed Heartland, but they never responded.

I am a new subscriber to the West Side Sun News!

MGD, I agree. We need to continue to develop a critical mass on 25th to support retail and enhance street life. Hopefully, the Jay Hotel project will move forward soon.

I've heard that it is very very difficult to move brick structures. Wood is easier because it has some bend to it. I may be wrong as I am just repeating what one man told me.

Where on West 25th???