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Memphis has this issue. The U of M is wildly popular in Memphis and the Grizzlies (cmon, change that name) are not as popular. It is partially due to the fact that the Grizzlies have been pretty pathetic ever since moving to town and UM has usually been pretty good. I don't live there anymore, so I'm curious how the Calipari departure has affected things.

One poster doesn't equal all of Cincinnati. I would say the attachment to the NBA is less in Cincinnati than elsewhere because we don't have a team, but I don't see a ton of interest in the NHL either. I would definitely say the NBA is much, much more popular just because basketball is a more popular sport than hockey. I would say, however, that college basketball is more popular than the NBA in Cincinnati just because we have 2 teams, and no NBA team. If we were ever to get an NBA team, it would probably be more of a split like it is with the Bengals and UC football. I'm surprised that people would say that college and pro football compete. They never play at the same time. I could see how college and pro basketball could compete because of overlapping schedules. It also surprises me that UC football would be so popular. It is sort of a johnny-come-lately. Is this because the Bengals had so many bad years and lost fan base?

Curling vs. NBA Curling is growing in popularity. NBA has seen a slight decline in attendance. The NBA is on ESPN and curling isn't. If curling were on ESPN then it would be just as popular, if not more, than the NBA.

^This would give us 13 draft picks this year.

That stuff is overpriced and not that good IMO. For a similar price, Souper Market is far better. The only time I've been to Zoup, my meal came to $11 for a bowl of soup, a half sandwich, chips, and a drink. My soup was OK, but surely nothing special. If I'm going to spend $11 on lunch, I'm going to go to a decent restaurant, not a fast food place to get soup and a wrap. Speaking of Souper Market, are they still planning on opening a location downtown? If they are, I hope that they wait until the fall. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think that the soup doesn't sell as well in the summer.

also from the article: "I have been more tempered in my response, saying that to me he seems like a guy who’s using some admittedly kind of crass methods to develop his studio, but whose pedigree is legitimate… and that I’d rather find ways to work with people who are in a position to be valuable to me than call them names and question their ethics. Although I’ve never paid to pitch myself, I wonder why some pay-to-pitch formats are acceptable and some are not." http://chipstreet.wordpress.com/2009/09/15/sling-blade-producer-larry-meistrich-sued-for-fraud/

I also wouldn't worry about any of the elite east private schools relocating. Replicating a first class facility is very costly. While these schools are very well off, I don't see them justifying the expense. If they were to locate out in Geauga county, they'd only be farther from their students. To get the available land that they'd need, they'd really have to go out quite far.

Check your facts on Ignatius. They don't offer athletic scholarships. Financial aid (outside of a few academic scholarships) is the only way to get reduced tuition and it is handled by an outside firm to ensure fairness. If you take a look at the football team, the vast majority come from the suburbs. While Ignatius is racially more diverse than St. Eds, you'd never know it from the looks of their sports teams. St. Eds is a different story.

Don't forget about the new Montessori High School in University Circle. It is drawing kids from all over the world.

So what explains suburbs like Westlake, which have on average very stable households and >75th percentile household incomes, not cracking the list (and in some cases not having a single NMSF)? Here is the answer viewed through tainted lense of an urban snob: Why do you find more NMSFs in Shaker Heights as compared to Westlake: Truly smart people appreciate good architecture.

Let's cool it down or we'll lock and clean up the thread.

Seriously? It is as well known as the ACT or SAT in high schools.

When did the symphony originally form?

Huh?

The rural republicans are far from "getting it". While I thought Strickland would do better, I don't see how the republicans offer anything better. The frustrating part about Ohio republicans is that they seem to be more interested in ideology and not interested in solving real problems. I've never understood this line of attack (on *any* public figure). "Interested in ideology and not interested in solving real problems?" The fairer reading of this is that they simply don't prioritize problems the way you do, or (in some cases) they characterize as a problem what you see as a benefit and vice versa. If you're an economic liberal don't see high taxes and regulatory burdens as problems, then of course you'll be less inclined to see the Republicans as "interested in solving real problems," but I can fairly say that *they* see themselves as addressing real problems. Ditto if you're a social liberal and don't see abortion, affirmative action, and gun control as problems. Look a little deeper. What frustrates me is the habitual blanket statements that ignore the particular situation and offer a generic cut and pasted strategy as a solution. If that is their understanding of how to approach real problems, then that is real problem. I'd love to cut taxes, but we need to do it with a well-crafted strategy. I don't think blanket statements are any more endemic to any political party than another. Also, when the competition at the ballot box is between two different philosophies of government, blanket statements are still relevant because they inform the listener about the principles and priorities of the speaker (assuming, of course, that the speaker is being up front about those, which is a whole separate question). If I say that I'm in favor of market-based school reform, you might not know exactly what I mean--but you can pretty much bet that the teachers' unions will be supporting my opponent from the moment that statement leaves my lips. If I say that I'm looking for a "smart on crime" approach that "takes into account the costs to the government and to society of having so many people behind bars," you may not know my stance on marijuana decriminalization, three strikes laws, mandatory minimum sentences, or many other specific issues, but you can make reasonable estimations about those things as compared with my opponent who trumpets a "tough on crime" line--without reading 10,000 words from each of us on the topic. That is precisely the problem with the current system. Candidates sing the party line. It divides the electorate rather than engage them in a thoughtful discussion. You may like it, but I think that dumbs down the conversation and turns the election into a high school rally.

^I didn't think of it that way. That's funny.

It is telling that after last sunday's olympic hockey game that all the radio and TV sportscasters were asking if the NHL would see a rise in popularity because of the US-Canada gold medal game. That question doesn't get asked if the perception exists that the NHL is doing well.

I would hope that Symon doesn't expand much beyond his current level. That said, all his restaurants have a different style. If he were putting a Lola in beachwood, independence, westlake and downtown, then he'd really be killing his brand. B Spot, Lolita and Lola are all different types of restaurants. Its a delicate balance and greater accessibility can throw it off.

There is some divisiveness to it, but not much in comparison to "turn ohio red". Hope and change was in reference to GW Bush who was as unpopluar as any president was at the time that Obama was using that slogan.

I disagree. I think that more suburban locations (especially South Park Mall, which is as run-of-the-mill as it gets) will cause his place to be looked at more like a "nicer Red Robin" than something special. At least Eton Collection is unique as far as suburban junk goes. I'm just thinking about market saturation. If you live in Bay Village and you want to go to a Symon restaurant, the Avon and CP locales would be competing against each other. West siders won't go out to eat in Strongsville and vice versa. I just think he'd capture more of the market. Additionally, I don't think the suburbanites are as picky about architecture (obviously).

^still, its good to hear news like this.

I'm kind of thinking that American Greetings situation is a fruit of the Eaton situation. Smart move for AG. They claim they could leave and state gives them a bunch of tax breaks. With our current situation, Ohio and Brooklyn really have no other choice.

The rural republicans are far from "getting it". While I thought Strickland would do better, I don't see how the republicans offer anything better. The frustrating part about Ohio republicans is that they seem to be more interested in ideology and not interested in solving real problems. I've never understood this line of attack (on *any* public figure). "Interested in ideology and not interested in solving real problems?" The fairer reading of this is that they simply don't prioritize problems the way you do, or (in some cases) they characterize as a problem what you see as a benefit and vice versa. If you're an economic liberal don't see high taxes and regulatory burdens as problems, then of course you'll be less inclined to see the Republicans as "interested in solving real problems," but I can fairly say that *they* see themselves as addressing real problems. Ditto if you're a social liberal and don't see abortion, affirmative action, and gun control as problems. Look a little deeper. What frustrates me is the habitual blanket statements that ignore the particular situation and offer a generic cut and pasted strategy as a solution. If that is their understanding of how to approach real problems, then that is real problem. I'd love to cut taxes, but we need to do it with a well-crafted strategy.

The rural republicans are far from "getting it". While I thought Strickland would do better, I don't see how the republicans offer anything better. The frustrating part about Ohio republicans is that they seem to be more interested in ideology and not interested in solving real problems. I've never understood this line of attack (on *any* public figure). "Interested in ideology and not interested in solving real problems?" The fairer reading of this is that they simply don't prioritize problems the way you do, or (in some cases) they characterize as a problem what you see as a benefit and vice versa. If you're an economic liberal don't see high taxes and regulatory burdens as problems, then of course you'll be less inclined to see the Republicans as "interested in solving real problems," but I can fairly say that *they* see themselves as addressing real problems. Ditto if you're a social liberal and don't see abortion, affirmative action, and gun control as problems. Yes, it's almost as vague as "hope" and "change." What is vague about "Turn Ohio Red"? I don't like it because it is divisive and leads to a mentality where scorecards are kept and where good government is not the goal. "Hope" or "Change" is hardly divisive. I agree with you that it is vague. I'll take vague political slogans over 'us vs. them' tactics any day.

It was realistic until ODOT got involved.