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Apparently they are just moving out of the other location a quarter mile away into this newly constructed branch. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few suburban chains take up residence in the other outlots, the location is ideal. This whole area has changed so much with the construction of 90 and the recent neighborhood demo for the big boxes.

I just wanted to bump this link that was posted several months back in this thread: http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/migration-moving-wealthy-interactive-counties-map.html This data is just for 2008 and shows how fluid the population really is. In just ONE YEAR, over 10 million americans moved into a different county. When you compound that over 10 years, you can really see how quickly populations shift. This nifty little tool also shows how many 1,000s of people each year move INTO overall declining population counties such as Cuyahoga. When you click on Cuyahoga County you see a sea of red lines, but if you read the information, the numbers are somewhat encouraging. Take for example Atlanta, 220 people left Cuyahoga County in 2008 for Fulton County, but 82 people actually moved to Cuyahoga County from Atlanta in 2008. There were 113 people who moved from Miami-Dade to Cuyahoga in 2008. What's truly impressive is the yearly cross flow of people moving between Franklin and Cuyahoga County. While yes, the pull into central Ohio comes mainly from the north, it cannot be ignored that 919 people in 2008 alone moved from Franklin County to Cuyahoga County. It should also be pointed out that while Franklin County picked up more than it lost, the per capita income of those moving into Cuyahoga County WERE HIGHER than those who left. So why is all of this important? Despite the overall population loss in Cuyahoga County, EACH YEAR, 1000s of NEW people move into the county from another county. This bodes well for urban revitalization. We know lots of people are moving in, and in many instances are replacing lower income people who are moving south. The question is how can we get the new residents to choose to relocate in the urban core?

I noticed that a construction fence appeared across from the parking lot of Target at W 117th/I 90. Anyone know what they are building here? I presume a chain restaurant or a bank branch?

At least it will be repaved. :roll:

In 2004, before construction on Euclid started, the #6 bus route on Euclid boarded 2,941,560 riders (vs about 4.1 million riders in 2010 on the HealthLine). Gee, I'd call that an improvement. That's the only year for which I have route-specific ridership data for all RTA bus routes (although I do have ridership data for Cleveland streetcar routes -- each of the top-five streetcar routes in the 1920s carried nearly as many people as the entire RTA system of today!). So while ridership data would be even better without fare-jumpers, the overall revenue may not be. :-P A couple things to keep in mind when comparing year after year numbers. The 32 no longer goes downtown. Riders must switch to the Healthline now, so part of the healthline's increase would be #32 riders who would have just stayed on all the way into downtown. Also, I believe service on Cedar was cut down which would have moved passengers to the healthline. The frequency of other routes paralleling the healthline is much less which has caused people to walk a few blocks more to catch a more frequent bus on Euclid. I'd like to see the total passenger numbers for all routes within a half mile of either direction of the health line to the east side to see if total ridership is increasing. It may be just be a matter of ridership shifting from one route to the other. This makes the healthline number increases look great, but are these really new passengers?

I think the creative juices need to get flowing on this project. Tree lined median. ::YAWN:: it's been done a million times over. I'm no horticulturist, but shrubbery seems to grow quickly and can be more visually pleasing than trees. What would be wrong with a rose bush lined median, lavender bush median, lilac bush median, and so forth? What about a "cultural gardens" type of median, with each block's median having a certain theme? You could even have a sculpture park median with each block having a different type of artwork. There's a seemingly endless array of really cool options here that don't involve messing with federal lane width restrictions and trees that will take decades to fill out...

The PD article had a brief sentence that talked about widening the street to accommodate the federal lane widths and still have the tree lined median.

With virtually no new construction in Edgewater the past ten years, the neighborhood definitely fared comparatively well in the census. Edgewater's 5.4% loss was better than Lakewood and most other inner ring suburbs and perceived trendy neighborhoods. I would be very hesitant to expand into the treelawns. There are a lot of trees already very close to the road. Would be a waste to have to rip out big shady trees along the edge for new saplings in the median. Ideally I would like to see selective medians only in the current footprint of some turn lanes, decorative lampposts, new architecturally pleasing bus stops(perhaps victorian era trolley shelters), and a rebranding in signs(similar to shaker).

Thanks for that clear up. Some previous articles had mentioned putting back in medians and restoring the boulevard as if it had been that way in the past. It would sure look nice if Cleveland went through with this and lakewood passed on the opportunity . My only concern is that with so many driveways and cross streets that the amount of space that could be designated towards a median would be severely limited. Would this also limit the amount of on street parking available for Clifton? The success of some of the new businesses our neighborhood has been able to attract in the past year (wine bar and be studios) require ample street parking. I'd hate to see this project make rental units or businesses harder to lease out.

When did Clifton last have a tree lined median or did it never have one to begin with? Anyone have any photos? Here is Clifton in Cleveland back when buses and street cars ran. But even at that time Clifton was just a two lane street with rail on what is today more lanes of traffic. http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/brookins&CISOPTR=169&CISOBOX=1&REC=8

The nytimes census maps have change in occupied/vacant units. It really is no surprise to me that even as neighborhoods revitalize they still lose population. A shrinking city could inevitably be a big decrease in population but a decrease in vacant units. Look at Tremont/Ohio City. Homes that once housed families of 6+ have been fixed up to "cool" units that might occupy just one recent college grad or a hip young couple. Replace a block with 5 homes - (2 that are empty, 3 with a family of 4) and then gentrify the neighborhood. Now that block might have 8 people and no vacant homes, looks way better than before, but the population still decreased 33%. Was that a success?

I think it's relatively easy to get people to use public transportation for work or a major entertainment venue but much more difficult for dinner at a restaurant in a small neighborhood, even for people who live in urban environments. As much as I love taking public transportation, it becomes very hard to justify using transit to go 2 or 3 miles to have dinner with friends in Tremont, Lakewood, Ohio City, or the Detroit Shoreway. A couple can get in their car and drive 5 minutes from Tremont to have dinner at Luxe, or spend $9 for RTA, take two transit lines, and spend 27 minutes to get there. The Detroit Shoreway is well served by frequent transit lines, however the nature of the destination makes using public transportation inconvenient/costly/time consuming. People generally visit the neighborhood for a dinner or a movie/play as a couple or group and an outing may be just 3 hours. At 51 cents per mile to drive, it's cheaper to drive a distance of 4.5 miles one way than use RTA if driving alone, tack on 4.5 miles for each person in the vehicle. Therefore a group of 4 could live 18 miles away and still find using personal transit cheaper than taking public transit. It really is a paradox. Gordon Square could definitely use more parking, but yet has ample public transit options. As someone who lives 2 miles away and frequents the district with my friend, there's no way we'd ever spend $9 bucks, 20+ minutes on RTA for such a short distance each time we went out. Now if only RTA had some sort of 50 cent fares if you were only going a mile or two ... now that would be nice!

Here are the municipality break downs for Cuyahoga County sorted by % growth/decline % Change City 2010 2000 -34.4 East Cleveland city 17,843 27,217 -30.2 Highland Hills village 1,130 1,618 -17.1 Cleveland city 396,815 478,403 -11.5 Maple Heights city 23,138 26,156 -10.5 Bratenahl village 1,197 1,337 -10.4 Warrensville Heights city 13,542 15,109 -9.5 Brook Park city 19,212 21,218 -9.3 Newburgh Heights village 2,167 2,389 -8.9 Gates Mills village 2,270 2,493 -8.8 Bentleyville village 864 947 -8.4 Lyndhurst city 14,001 15,279 -8.2 Cuyahoga County (OH) 1,280,122 1,393,978 -8.0 Bedford city 13,074 14,214 -8.0 Lakewood city 52,131 56,646 -7.7 Cleveland Heights city 46,121 49,958 -7.2 Euclid city 48,920 52,717 -6.7 Valley View village 2,034 2,179 -6.1 Garfield Heights city 28,849 30,734 -5.5 Bedford Heights city 10,751 11,375 -5.3 South Euclid city 22,295 23,537 -5.0 Walton Hills village 2,281 2,400 -4.7 Parma city 81,601 85,655 -4.3 Parma Heights city 20,718 21,659 -4.3 University Heights city 13,539 14,146 -4.2 Fairview Park city 16,826 17,572 -4.1 North Olmsted city 32,718 34,113 -3.6 Richmond Heights city 10,546 10,944 -3.6 Brooklyn city 11,169 11,586 -3.3 Shaker Heights city 28,448 29,405 -2.7 Bay Village city 15,651 16,087 -2.5 Rocky River city 20,213 20,735 -2.3 Seven Hills city 11,804 12,080 -1.9 Beachwood city 11,953 12,186 -1.2 Mayfield Heights city 19,155 19,386 -1.0 Pepper Pike city 5,979 6,040 -1.0 Brooklyn Heights village 1,543 1,558 -0.2 Hunting Valley village 589 590 0.0 Oakwood village 3,667 3,667 0.3 Independence city 7,133 7,109 0.6 Berea city 19,093 18,970 0.7 Moreland Hills village 3,320 3,298 0.7 Mayfield village 3,460 3,435 1.8 Chagrin Falls township 4,233 4,159 2.0 Strongsville city 44,750 43,858 2.0 Brecksville city 13,656 13,382 2.6 Middleburg Heights city 15,946 15,542 2.7 Orange village 3,323 3,236 3.2 Westlake city 32,729 31,719 3.3 Highland Heights city 8,345 8,082 6.3 North Royalton city 30,444 28,648 6.5 Cuyahoga Heights village (OH) 638 599 6.8 Woodmere village 884 828 7.1 Solon city 23,348 21,802 13.3 Olmsted Falls city 9,024 7,962 13.4 North Randall village 1,027 906 21.5 Broadview Heights city 19,400 15,967 27.8 Olmsted township 13,513 10,575 53.0 Linndale village 179 117 105.6 Glenwillow village 923 449

Looking at the broader picture, a select few worldwide areas have a "problem" with population loss. But yet as a planet we face significant overpopulation to the point where we can't sustain the amount of people on the planet now, let alone adding another billion every decade or so. Is population loss really a fundamental "problem" or the future's answer to a finite number of resources? Perhaps it's best to look at how a city/region/country can grow their respective citizen's quality of life without adding new people and in many cases decreasing people.

Regionally it was pretty close, but Allegheny and Cuyahoga are simlarly balkanized and Cleveland proper's shrinkage rate was twice that of Pittsburgh. Cleveland's east side experienced widespread Detroitification over the last decade. Pittsburgh only has pockets of that, and much of it is in burbs like Braddock rather than in-city. I'd say they're cleaning our clock. And they're better poised for growth in the next decade, because so much of Cleveland's built environment is in shambles. Miles on end. People don't want to live near that, let alone in it, nor do they want to open businesses there. We have a lot of work ahead. Best get to it. Good points. Pittsburgh is likely better poised for growth comparing city proper to city proper. Cleveland's 17% loss is going to be hard to ignore in terms of attracting new business. With Chicago coming in well below estimates, Cleveland coming in at 17%, and Pittsburgh doing poorer than expected, I can only imagine what Detroit's loss might be. If they come in better than 17%, we might start hearing Clevelandification instead of Detroitification.

I think this census will hopefully bring a greater push for more regional cooperation. Pittsburgh has done a wonderful job of advertising themselves as a region that has changed and is moving forward and generally has a positive perception elsewhere. Despite this, the city of Pittsburgh still lost a considerable amount of people this past 10 years. In the end the Pittsburgh MSA lost 3.1% of its population, the Cleveland MSA lost 3.3% of its population. If you compare the Cleveland CSA to the Pittsburgh CSA, Cleveland did much better in terms of population loss. In the end Pittsburgh changed their image to themselves and the rest of the country but just because you change your image positively doesn't mean people and jobs are coming back.

With Hamilton County's numbers coming in well below the 2009 estimate and Cuyahoga County doing just a hair better than estimated, the Cincy metro might not overtake the Cleveland metro as the state's largest metro (even when including the 10 counties outside of the state). We will have to wait for official Kentucky numbers to come out. But regardless the two metros are about identical in size even when you toss in Dayton and Akron for good measure. 1,625,406: 2010 Census (5 Cincy OHIO Counties) This represents 4.4% growth in Ohio during the past 10 years 2,077,240: 2010 Census (5 Cleve OHIO Counties) This represents 3.3% decline in Ohio during the past 10 years

It appears that in Cuyahoga County the excess loss in Cleveland came from overestimating the loss or lack thereof of Cleveland suburbs. The 2009 estimate was 1,275,709 and the 2010 census came in 1,280,122 for the county, which was only 0.3% off, pretty accurate. Linndale - A city with explosive growth! They had 117 in the 2000 census, the 2009 estimate had them 88, but they came in at 179. That's 53% growth! Shaker Heights 29,405 - 2000 Census 26,214 - 2009 Estimate 28,448 - 2010 Census Westlake 31,719 - 2000 Census 30,331 - 2009 Estimate 32,729 - 2010 Census Strongsville 43,890 - 2000 Census 42,378 - 2009 Estimate 44,750 - 2010 Census Brooklyn 11,586 - 2000 Census 10,316 - 2009 Estimate 11,169 - 2010 Census Beachwood 12,186 - 2000 Census 11,036 - 2009 Estimate 11,953 - 2010 Census Brecksville 13,382 - 2000 Census 12,767 - 2009 Estimate 13,656 - 2010 Census And this list could go on and on. Moral of the story. Estimates at the larger scale were decent, but city level data, at least in Cuyahoga County was completely inaccurate. From every municipality in Cuyahoga that I've checked the only two that came in worse than estimates were Cleveland and East Cleveland.

Just glancing at some of the suburb data in Cuyahoga County, the estimates were terrible. Westlake and Strongsville had estimates losing population, but both came in with growth. Shaker Heights and Beachwood were both estimated to lose close to 10% but only dropped a few percentage points

I would like to look at the Cleveland census tract data a bit more closely. As a comparison point East Cleveland dropped 34.4% from 2000. I think a lot of the loss from Cleveland might be on the east side.

You know what excites me most about that rendering? Look to the middle left hand side of the building. Looks like Cleveland gains about 40-50 skyscrapers along the Euclid corridor! Not bad for $121 million! :-D

Determining how much snowfall Cleveland has/had is a pretty arguable point. Define "Cleveland" or better yet pick a street block, neighborhood or neighboring municipality. Because most of the snow here is frequent lake effect events day after day and most lake effect snow bands are very narrow, the cumulative effect over the course of a winter is wildly variable snow totals that can range 20 inches to the mile. The airport averages roughly 63 inches of snow per winter based on 1970-2000 climate averages. After this year, the averages will move to 1980-2010 which means the average snow in Cleveland will increase to 68 inches. In Cuyahoga County the snowfall averages between 50-100 inches depending on your location and elevation. Obviously the highest amounts are found near the Geauga County border near Chagrin Falls and lowest along the west shore. Generally speaking with lake effect, the "snowbelts" do well with NW wind flow events. This creates the the upslope effect in the higher terrain, with a wide swath of snow inland which leaves downtown dry. The areas along the shore do well when the winds are westerly (a la the storm downtown in early December) This creates convergence along the shoreline, and a narrow primary band of snow develops from the east end of Lakewood through Downtown and out to the east side. The Easter snowstorm of 2007 is another classic example of a significant snow from this scenario. But because westerly flow events need to pull moisture from the western basin of Lake Erie, which is often the first part of the Great Lakes to freeze each winter, these events are often less dramatic than NW flow events in the primary snowbelt which also pull moisture in from Lake Huron and the later to freeze central Lake Erie.

Burke does have a rain gauge. You can view historical weather records for BKL here: http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KBKL/2011/1/29/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar There are FAA contract weather observers at the following locations (airports) in Ohio whose duties do include snow measurements: CLE, YNG, MFD, CAK, TOL, DAY, and CMH (oh and CVG, but technically Kentucky)

Here you go: http://www.weather.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=oh&prodtype=climate#CLICLE Currently at Hopkins 33.7"

Yep. North Point Phase 1 (where Jones Day is located on the west side of the atrium at E 9th) is 242,000 square feet. North Point Phase 2 (the office tower to the east of the atrium) is 600,000 square feet.