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It is a condemned structure that is generating no revenue. As a surface parking lot it can almost immediately start making money, and the stage is set to more easily develop this superblock of parking sometime in the future. Perhaps not for a long while.

Was out and got this shot. Demolition of the 3-level parking deck has begun at W. 6th & Superior. By late afternoon and into dusk they were going at it full swing. Patrons dining on any of the W. 6th patios had front row seats as this was taking place. I'm not sure if this means there is some sort of forward progress on developing this vast sea of parking. It could be that it will just become a surface lot (indefinitely?). I couldn't tell if the small building, around which this parking deck is built, will be getting the ax. As McCleveland said many months back, it is Cleveland's oldest building (aside from Dunham Tavern). Here is a part of the very old building. Everybody get your historic stone blocks if you can!

Now if only this stud would get a hold of Rotunda-Breuer-1010. Sorry back to topic...

Great tour! And I agree that Cleveland should create a more distinct Asiatown.

Without a doubt it is on a weekday (as uf has stated). BTW, great pics! This pic was taken probably mid-morning around 10 or 11 AM, that is when downtown has the least amount of foot traffic and automobile traffic. After 11:30 AM it's quite the opposite usually. 2 things that let you know when this pic was taken: There are no leisure boats in the water (lake or river), although this picks up mid-afternoon through evening. These parking lots are not full like this on weekends (in the middle of the day). They don't start to fill up until the evening when the Warehouse District revelers arrive to party on Fri and Sat. Chalk this up to things I've learned living down here.

Columbus has a lot of beauetiful old houses in neighborhoods that are adjacent to downtown or not far from the downtown. I'm guessing this is due to Columbus' roots as a college town and state capital. I've been on Old Town East's Christmas tour. Was very nice.

^You're darn tootin' (to borrow a line from William H. Macy in the movie "Fargo"). And also correct is the first poster on Cleveland.com who says something to the effect that while the 1010 Building is not a masterpiece it fits the site and Euclid streetscape very well. No better way to put it. Right on willy boy. There has been an obsesesion to expedite this building's demise since the 1960s, at least since the 60s! Why, I ask, why?? I just don't know how this talk of demolition on Lower Euclid (and Lower Prospect for that matter) continues to raise its ugly head in this day and age. Every effort should be taken to preserve Euclid Ave. exactly as it is (at least from E. 17th to Public Square, at least...we know that it's too late in Midtown, the Euclid Ave. streetscape has been altered considerably...the bulldozers have been running rampant lately there). Same thing for Prospect Ave. Except that should be preserved as much as possible all the way to E. 40th. These shouldn't be pipe dreams for us to have. I wish developers and the movers/shakers, etc. would be exploring ways to plug the holes on these 2 streets instead of tearing down vintage buildings only to replace them with buildings that look like they could've been plucked from the I-77 Rockside suburban office corridor. Then forgetting about infill for these holes. I know. There are always arguements that, well, 'this building is too costly to restore and it needs this and that and its problems are too many to count'. Where there's a will, there's a way. I fear that this building will get torn down if the county offices somehow make it to E. 9th and Euclid. After all it's in this guy Nicklos' plans. Personally, I think county offices are terrible for this pivotal site, JMO. Which is why I actually would be pleased if K & D or some other entity like the group associated with the Schofield/Truman building took ownership of the Rotunda-Breuer-1010. I would feel a little more at ease that this vintage threesome (yes, Breuer is, for all intents and purposes, an antique) would be restored "as is" into apartments and hotel,etc. without removal of whole buildings. Even so, I still fear that this building may finally meet the wrecking ball. I hope I'm wrong. I also worry that the Stanley Block and the 350 Prospect Ave. (?address) building may also be "outta here" sometime in the forseeable future. Isn't there a Lower Prospect Historic District, or some such thing that has any pull in these 2 scenarios? And what about HGN when it comes to both Euclid and Prospect? I guess I just don't know what kind of influence, or to what degree, that these downtown neighborhood organizations really have. I hope it's significant. But I also realize owners of buildings are businessmen and are looking out for themselves. Nobody is a bigger fan of Cleveland than I (alright, alright I know there are plenty of us on this site :-)) but a part of me continues to worry about the (ongoing?) loss of our original downtown. I read the latest stories like this about the 1010 building and it makes me a little unconfident that significant parts of downtown are going to look and feel like they should (and the intersection of E. 9th & Euclid is one of the most, if not the most, significant places in Cleveland... it's often referred to as Main & Main). Let's keep what we have, geez.

Nice shots. Is work progressing on the rooftop dining area and/or greenhouse?

Great thread! "Chamber of Commerce" shots for each city!

Also, I know this is off topic for this thread, but these pictures show how important the Breuer Twr is to the Cleveland skyline and the streetscape too. I've been a fan of Breuer Twr for a long time and I will be glad when it is no longer vacant.

TERRIFIC pictures!! A couple interesting things about those posters -- as in, cardboard -- set up on the NCB (er, PNC) Plaza at the presentation... I couldn't figure out where the Sunshine Cloak Building was on the Euclid Corridor Projects poster. Lo and Behold it's at 2310 Superior. I wouldn't refer to that as Euclid Corridor, if anything it's the Superior Warehouse area. But I'm all for expanding the good things of the Corridor! Also, there is a building pictured on the poster for this year's recipients called the Federal Reserve Building...and underneath it says "Cincinnati (Franklin County)". Hmmmmm. If any of this has been discussed, sorry, it's early Sunday morning and I'm too lazy to read through all the pages I've missed on this. I'm very glad to see that the Union Building is going to get a facelift. Didn't know about this one. It should look great when finished.

I contend that these gardens are a million times better than they were in the 70s or 80s. Not perfect,yes. But a lot better. There is an effort to replace the missing, or simply removed, items. The entire park is worlds away from the way it was in the 1970s. From the Cultural Gardens website http://blog.culturalgardens.org/ : "Slovenian Cultural Garden’s replacement Ivan Cankar dedication, Friday, June 18, at 2 PM. Members of the Slovenian Parlament in attendance along with local political leaders and Slovenian dignitaries. Free. Parking along East Blvd." That was just this past Friday. And if I'm not mistaken it went here (if anyone knows different please correct me):

Nice thread. And nice work because there is a lot to photograph there. Every time I drive through here I want to get out and take pictures. The gardens and Rockefeller Park are looking better than they have in years. I remember reading once that much (80% or so) of the statuary and ornamentation was removed in the 60s/70s because of vandalism, etc. Some of it is probably still in storage but there certainly has been a re-beautification of the gardens of late. And new cultural gardens have been added like India and Azerbaijan. China's is up along the northern terminus of the park by CMA and it is stunning. BTW, this is indeed part of the Azerbaijan garden. But this one is from the neighboring Armenian garden which is still under construction, as far as I know.

Great shots!

:clap: Congratulations MayDay!!!!

I don't know if this has been discussed on here but when I was in Tremont today at Lucky's Cafe, I saw a coming soon sign in a building renovation at Professor & Starkweather (diagonally across from Lucky's). It was for "Istanbul Turkish Grill". IIRC, it was a closed Hotz's Bar (of which there is still(?) another one somewhere else in the neighborhood). Anyway, this is gonna be great for Tremont especially for the Professor Ave. strip from W. 10th to Starkweather. This is really a nice stretch of restaurants and retail.

No problem. Your knowledge of Cleveland churches is amazing.

Great pictures! I spent my summers growing up at the Jersey shore...Long Beach Island to be exact... but didn't ever go up here.

I am just now reading the comments to this post. With all of this beautiful weather and just the fact that it's summer, I've been finding it very difficult to hang around internet/email, etc. Instead, I've been filling the coffers of local bars and restaurants. Damn it's cheaper to hang out on UO, lol. For the record, I didn't take any pictures at E. 141st. & Harverd. The church in question is near E. 93rd & Aetna (St. Mary of the Nativity). Of course, St. Joe's Byzantine is near E. 93rd & Orleans. And then there is a picture of a church... St. Catherine's (closed) at E. 93rd & St. Catherine Ave. These would all be more or less around the Union Ave. part of Union-MP. Yes , Robert, it is unbelievable that a church like St. Joe's hasn't been tagged or anything. It truly is just there crumbling like a ruin. One might be hard-pressed to find anyhting like that un-tagged in the U.S., JMO. C-Dawg, I would agree and call that a Great Lakes style of apts. I've always referred to them as Cleveland 4-suiters (or 8-suiters depending on how deep they are).

These are the three neighborhoods which are south of Mt. Pleasant and Buckeye, starting at the Cleveland border and moving up. It's a long post especially since I added the abandoned urban relic at the end. Mill Creek Falls (Broadway-Warner-Turney) Some of the older commercial district and homes These are pics from the 1990s Mill Creek development which was built on the grounds of a closed state hospital off Turney Rd. Evidently, it is the largest housing development in the city since WW2 The namesake of this neighborhood...the actual Mill Creek Falls area This historical marker pretty much says it all about the origins of the area Definitely has the vibe of an old Western Reserve town. In the background is the town square area of old Newburgh Corlett The former Avalon Theater on E. 131st, c. 1937 The former Corlett Theater on Miles Rd, c. 1924 This is one of the Walker and Weeks-designed libraries that are still around town. Constructed in 1928 it has been in continuous service since 1929. The style is listed as Art Deco but it has some Byzantine qualities to it, JMO. Seems pretty unique. It's on E. 131st St Some of the streets have really tidy homes and are intact. Other residential streets are not quite as nice Union - Miles Park The Miles Park/Miles Rd section Former Masonic Temple, c.1911 The Miles Park Carnegie Library sits on the remanants of the Newburgh town square Also on the square is this closed late 1800s church Across the square is the Miles Park United Methodist Church Just off the square is this 1875 Fire Station Now the Triumph Church... James A. Garfield was a minister here several years before he became president. It's located on Miles Rd. Just behind the structures above, this is the Caine Homestead (took pic last Fall) Driving down Miles Rd. Miles School, which is slated for demolition I always get a kick out of this bus line. Fargo! Also off Miles Rd. is Calvary Cemetery On the hill in the background is the Mill Creek development Headed back down Miles Rd. Heading into more of the Union area (of Union - Miles Pk) Cleveland high school, John Adams. Rebuilt and opened in 2007. A former Polish church, St. Mary of the Nativity Major intersection of E.93rd and Union. This old Cermak's Pharmacy building seems to be one of the two original buildings still standing at the intersection This old bank building is the other The MLK area before heading into Mt Pleasant In the mid-1900s this was Congregation N'Vai Tzedek Abandoned Greek Byzantine Church found in Union - Miles Park

Downtown's losing a good restaurant, but Marlin Kaplan will transform La Boca spot... One Walnut to close in downtown Cleveland, but chef will open a second spot near Gordon Square Wednesday, June 09, 2010, 7:01 PM Joe Crea, The Plain Dealer read more at: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/post_51.html

I am so gald that these have been removed. The jokes about the dead trees being a backdrop for the Bodies Show were already starting. It is a bit confusing why so many died off. The theory of balled trees sitting so long in Midtown and elsewhere, for 2008 and on, made me want to agree. But, although this could've happened to a very few early on (which I think is the case for the few Maples that were are still in front of House of Blues and alongside 200 PS), the fact that a complete life cycle occurred...most, if not all, trees were planted by late 2008, then budded in Spring 2009, then had an ordinary Autumn leaf color-change/falling off (Leaf Abscission) this past Fall 2009, then apparently a re-budding a couple months ago (Spring 2010)...doesn't account for this majority that we are talking about now, a year-and-a-half later from the balled state. Curiously these re-buds and nascent leaves were thwarted...for some reason...from growing further. I know there were consistent early warm (even, hot) temperatures and there were cold nights mixed in but I don't think cold enough for this to happen, especially since we're talking so close to the Lake where nighttime temps stay milder than inland areas. As mentioned, it seems to be a problem also on Prospect. BTW, a large number of the trees surrounding the Cleveland Clinic reflecting pool seem to be fine (some sort of "late bloomers" --- must just be the species). It's hard for me to agree with the road salt, wind tunnel thing either. Look at the beautiful, large (old) sidewalk trees on particularly E. 9th Street. The type of species is important but one would hope this would've been taken into consideration before they were purchased. I think it's maintenance, but I don't know where exactly. What has happened though reveals that maintenance is the bottom line for keeping a city inviting. As an aside (and generally on topic since the Healthline and PS go hand-in-hand), if the city re-does Public Square with multitudes of trees and possibly mounds and (HOPEFULLY NOT) metal trellises it better be ready for high maintenance. A good argument for the New England green. Also, as an aside, I wonder why the raised planter medians that go through PS on Superior have not been filled with the annuals they usually have by now (at least the last time I was there on Thursday evening). Only the trees and some perennials and a lot of dirt are there. This makes no sense. Although, today when I go out it may be a different story.

Thanks McC and MayDay for the FYIs. I will be wanting to contact the necessary parties on this one (Stanley Block). Maybe I'll be lucky enough again to see Cimperman at the Lakewood Aladdin's hostess stand/cash register picking up his carry-out. If so, I won't keep quiet... I'll be ready with questions and concerns this time.

Well the term "bad" is relative, and I'll kinda go anywhere but I'd have to say Buckeye, the Euclid-Green neighborhood for that throwback health food store "Weber's", and places on Broadway (especially before Steelyard came along this was the closest place for downtown residents to go to chain discount stores, etc ---until about 2001 when even in Broadway these types of stores started to close down, although they were poorly maintained). 99% of downtown/in-town residents wouldn't go there if they needed such things... it seems like they opted for Parma or Brooklyn or West Cleveland. There are still good reasons to go to B'Way/Slavic Village (as said above... Seven Roses restaurant, and others) and the Metroparks system.

To put it bluntly, that absolutely sucks. Let me guess...for a surface parking lot? Possibly the casino? I understand that the building has been deteriorating for years, but it must be one of the last from the early days of the Central Market area, I would think. Here's a picture of floors 2,3 and 4.