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Sunrise Sun is up and lights on the Key Tower would turn off in about 10 seconds Walking on a cool spring mid-morning on Public Square, I couldn't resist this shot. All I remember is the dog's name "Bella". I don't know what the table set-up was for. Blossoming trees on Public Square Fog rolling in off the lake headed down E. 9th St. A mountainous cloud as sunset nears on the US Courthouse Plaza Just after nightfall, this is the "Flower Moon" full moon on May 27 Flower Moon in the middle of the night is now over the West Shoreway New way to get to the top of the Terminal Tower? I got this wacky idea to try this... Some back-and-forth... The bit of building on the left is the Stanley Block. Even though it's grittily(?) cool, it'd be better restored Friday May 21 at 7:57 PM At 7:59 PM

As I think back, I haven't seen this adjective used to describe topography. Should I have? Does this mean it's hilly?

Good photos! Being from Cleveland/NEO, of course I am familiar with Barberton. But after having lived in Akron for 4 years, I "experienced" it , including the famous Barberton Chicken and the old downtown, which is nice. I also learned there is a strong contingent of Barbertonians(?) that very much dislike being called an Akron suburb. When I called it a suburb of Akron, some let me know that it wasn't. Local politics, I guess.

I was out earlier this evening and took this shot. I do not know if this has been discussed, etc. but it's certainly good news. I'm guessing this is the appropriate thread for picture. It's on the ground floor of the 1900 Euclid Lofts building (to the right of the front doors).

I probably would too. There are some great streets in the Cedar-Fairmount neighborhood like Grandview, Bellfield, Surrey and Derbyshire that have a mixture of apartments and rental homes.

Yeah, I always have thought that Parma is one of the most diverse cities in Cuyahoga County, if not Ohio (in the sense that it is populated by a lot of the world's different peoples). I was an on-call employee at Parma Hospital for many years and I really grew to appreciate the area of Parma/Parma Hts. I grew up in greater Cleveland so I understand how it's been acceptable to poke fun at it --- people even mocked it in the late 70s and early 80s and later ---anyone remember Big Chuck and Little John? That is due, first, to its blue-collar status and, secondly, to the high number of Eastern Europeans (the jokes invariably centered around the Polish community). My friend from high school, her Latvian grandparents lived on a street where there were other Latvians and Lithuanians. On my way home from the Hospital I could stop at an array of places and get different carry-out food...from Polish to Phillipino to Indian to Middle Eastern (my favorite). And the best Italian grocery store used to be in Parma Hts (now closed, I believe). There are still a lot of "International" grocery stores, that carry items from South American produce to Romanian soaps (yes, a friend of mine from Romania was very happy to have this store nearby). There is still a large Eastern European commmunity, although it's an aging one. Exception might be the Ukrainian community... I met some younger, just-arrived Ukrainian immmigrants at the Hospital. Many South Asians call Parma home, mostly Indian and Phillipino, but there is an outward push though to places like southern,hilly Parma and to North Royalton. Also many Arab-Americans too. Isn't Ohio's largest Mosque in Parma? There are also growing Hispanic/Latino and African-American communities. Parma has just always been the ultimate "un-cool" place in greater Cleveland.

10 years

At least PNC's is colorful, and one can see it.

^ Exactly. At least create an urban village/Ohio City-ish. It looks like a 1970s California model home show. I half expect Marsha and Greg Brady to walk out onto that redwood deck from that split-level job they've placed right in front. I'm really amazed at this!

I've been biting my tongue on this one for a long time now. But no more... For me, anyway, I don't know what will be more scary as I walk down Euclid Ave this summer...The Bodies Exhibit or Wyse's ground floor cocoons. If it's bad...it's bad.

Great scenes! Awesome shots!

ink, This is a very cool find. Sad to hear of its approaching fate.

BTW I don't want some of my comments to be misinterpreted. People and businesses have been moving away from Public Sq since the early days because Cleveland was a growing and ,eventual, rapidly-expanding city. Same thing goes for why I said the migration patterns of the late 19th century and early 20th century were "fascinating"; Cleveland was a boomtown and the city grew at a wild pace to accomodate its influx of residents. I did not mean to communicate that sprawl is fascinating. I understand the deleterious effects of sprawl, just like most everyone on this forum. Sometimes when you write things at 6AM, they sound differently when you read them later.

There are a lot of valid points that are made in the discussion. In my exploring/traveling through the SE side, I got a sense of it being a very insular area. I mean it's clear that most have not been here, or not here for a very long time. A lot has to do with "how do I get there?" Someone like me with east side roots (granted they're northeast-side roots... N.Collinwood/East Cleve/NE Cuyahoga-western Lake County suburbs), the southeast side of town was sort of like a new discovery. Of course I had been through it before but not for a long time and not as extensively as when you are trying to get pictures for photo tours. A lot of people are physically familiar with Broadway/Slavic Village (which is SE Cleveland too obviously), but not these "Beyond Broadway" areas. The history of migration in Cleveland is really fascinating especially on the east side where people have been constantly migrating east from Public Square since the 1850s. Specifically, many people that originally settled in Buckeye/Mt Pleasant/Union-Miles Park/Corlett came from Broadway/SV or were new immigrants to America from E Europe that went right to the "new" SE side. Then many of those residents moved and populated the inner-ring suburbs of Garfield Hts, Warrensville Hts, Shaker Hts etc. leaving the places behind and a lot of people forgot about the "Beyond Broadway" areas. I think there needs to be better access (some how, some way) and the area needs to be opened up again. The SE side isn't completely lost yet. Buckeye has the benefit of its location (bordering Shaker Square, really close to University Circle, fairly intact historic commercial district, rapid stop at E. 116th & Shaker just a block away from the commercial center). There are areas of Mt. Pleasant and Union-Miles Park that are really decimated and cannot be sustained as such, but there are also bright spots in those neighborhoods as well. Corlett, Broadway-Warner-Turney, and Union-Miles Park are still somewhat viable. I took photos of these places for SE Cleveland Part II.

Wow! I'm amazed at the interest that this has generated. I haven't even read through all the comments, the furthest I've gotten is Etheostoma's post near the top of page 2. The posts were coming so fast that I couldn't keep up. All I can say at this point is... I love Buckeye!

Yeah...Union-Miles Park, Corlett, and Broadway-Warner-Turney (that's how a co-worker of mine calls this neighborhood where she lives, others refer to it as South Broadway). It would be really south South Broadway.

This is news to me. Thanks Zack. I'm so glad to hear that this will finallly be restored. It is one of the best examples of Gothic remaining in Cleveland. The collapsed wall probably won't ever look the same after the restoration (i.e. the "patina" and grittiness will be gone), but luckily I have an awesome photo of that particular wall that I will put in a photo thread.

Enjoying reading the comments! Uh-oh now the pressure's on for part II, LOL. The next part will feature 2 or 3 different SE neighborhoods, it won't be a continuation of Buckeye and Mt Pleasant. The scenes are different...along with a slightly different built environment in the next 3 contiguous neighborhoods. (I think I just explained that correctly :lol:)

Taco trucks, what a great idea. And I've had Cactus salad before (not yet tacos -- they sound terrific though), it was very good. Good to see there is an effort underway to restore the Abbey.

Thanks McC. Glad you like the photos.

Thanks for the clarifications. Hopefully I have the Czech/Slovak thing down now. There are a few buildings around town with the "...spol.sin" ending or "...narodni.sin" , and some others. Makes sense that would've been St. Benedict's, given Benedictine High is literally on the same campus.

These are photos from the southeast Cleveland neighborhoods of Mt. Pleasant and Buckeye. They are located due south of the University Circle/Shaker Square area. There is a lot of blight in these areas but I am not focusing on that in these threads... Mt. Pleasant This building once housed the Mt. Pleasant Theater (the theater dates to the early 1930s). Now it is the Boys and Girls Club of Cleveland Also located on E. 131st A drive around Mt. Pleasant... This is one of the architecturally significant schools that is sadly on the list for demolition. It's on E. 131st St. On Kinsman Rd. Also just off Kinsman... this was the previous Kinsman Jewish Center and Synagogue, from about 1929 to about 1960. The congregation would become the Warrensville Center Synagogue in University Hts. These SE neighborhoods were heavily Eastern European. Most residents were Christian (Roman Catholic or Orthodox/Byzantine Catholic) and, to a lesser extent, the Jewish faith. Located on E. 130th St, this is Alexander Hamilton Middle School (closed). IMO, it will be the most unfortunate loss if torn down as it is on the demolition list. Over to MLK Drive... The downtown view. The Audubon School, another scheduled for demolition...sad The Kinsman-Ramona-MLK area. On MLK Drive, on the way into Buckeye. Buckeye In lower Buckeye, this is St. Elizabeth. One of the holdovers from the days when Buckeye was known as Little Hungary. It boasted the largest population of Hungarians in North America. Up the hill on MLK Drive. Now the Full Gospel Evangelistic Center, I assume this was once St Andrew's(?). I couldn't confirm it. St. Andrew Abbey in the background. The Benedictine Monks have resided here for decades and teach at Benedictine High School next door. The commercial district. In Cleveland for 86 years, Orban's... In a former life this was the Moreland Theater, c.1927 IMO, the best Cleveland public art... The gorgeous Weizer Block. I think it's the best non-downtown building in Cleveland. The famous Lucy's Sweet Surrender. A very charming Hungarian lady helped me pick out a lot of sweets. The suburban-style Buckeye Plaza. It's not all that bad actually. This doesn't look all that old. A former Slovak Hall. Heading back down Buckeye towards downtown.

Great photos. I have yet to make it to downtown Y-town. Too bad that beautiful theater will be razed.

I saw this today too. Awesome. I do hope they get some better exterior signage.

These probable school demolitions are very sad. Through some of my recent east side travels, I've grown fond of some of the ones that are on the list.