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I'm not exactly sure about the hotel but I do wanna say that it's going behind the Quizno's/Chopstick bldg...

That's right. The cancer garden will go there. Here's a good picture and some other information: BTW, their website needs updated. The project is MUCH closer than 3 yrs away http://www.uhhospitals.org/AboutUH/Vision2010/NewCancerHospital/tabid/1347/Default.aspx

Bites: Bon Bon Baking And more local food news by Douglas Trattner A new bake shop to open at W.65th & Detroit behind Gypsy Coffee. Sounds small but anything new over there is significant. more at: http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/bites-bon-bon-baking/Content?oid=1716891

The beautiful sky steals the show... Nice!

Another short but sweet street is E. 115th Between Cornell and Mayfield. It's sandwiched literally within the UH/CWRU campus and is also just a stone's throw from Little Italy. In fact, UH tried again a few years ago to demolish all of the structures for a parking garage, but they were not allowed. The Cozad-Bates house which sits at the Mayfield entrance is a full-fledged Historic structure that is off-limits to demolition now, as far as I know. Wish I had a pic of the homes, which are all woodframed turn-of-last-century style and they all kinda match. Here's a couple pics of one of the apt buildings:

Can we see some pictures of these places ? Are you just gonna leave us hangin' ? Some of your descriptions are too tempting. Thanks

Near the intersection of E. 101st & Chester is Newton:

Hear hear. Been meaning to post a photo thread of this short gem for about 4 years or so. Just as soon as I can find the right SD Card I have a great little picture of Newton Ave. And will post it.

Yes I was just at a mtg. and talked with people who would know a little on this subject. As far as anyone knows , the jury is still out on this. Considering they've lost the leader for this laboratory and there is "no firm groundbreaking" timetable...that would mean that the project (whatever project---revised or not) for the E. 105th & Carnegie area is very tenuous right now. The O.Corridor ...I don't know about that....that's years away. If that's what this land will be used for, then there will be pkg lots around E. 105th & Carnegie for a while in some fashion or another. Hope I'm wrong.

Not at its best now is right... but someday, hopefully sooner rather than later, this will be one of the best again.

It's not that bad. I can see why you'd wanna snap a few pictures. The big vase(?) is cool. And the "Pride" awnings. A few nice old buildings too.

^ Now there's a great answer

Despite the condition of this neighborhood, it is still very photogenic just like a lot of other parts of C'bus.

12/21/12. The day that the ancient Mayan Calendar says will be the end of civilization. This thread is for all things related to that. Is it to be taken seriously ? Or just another Y2K letdown ? If enough people take it seriously...survival bunkers, money hording, constantly watching the news, becoming more solitary and spiritual...will it have the ability to slow down the economy ?...and the things that come from a sluggish economy, such as development projects scrapped or put on hold and marked decreases in certain areas: number of homes bought and sold, cars too. Will there be sharp increases in the sales of bottled water, canned food, survival gear, etc. ? Or will it be the opposite? Will there be "live-it-up-now" spending going on ? You know, "Party like it's 1999, er, 2012". Buy Everything, have fun...spend all your savings...travel and see those places that you always wanted to go to. This could be a boon to the economy. But it would also have exhausted a lot of resources if we were all here the next day...the 22nd of December. If anything, this is going to affect Christmas sales, one way or the other...they'll be way up or way down, in 2012. Will everyone hold off shopping until the 22nd? And it's not just how we Americans will approach this. What about people in other parts of the world ? Other cultures may take this much more seriously. I know it's hard to gauge right now what the actual feeling will be in December 2012. And especially how it will affect the economy, since we're already in (but maybe coming out of) a global economic recession. Life may just be "business as usual" in December 2012. And all of this concern for 12/21/12 might burn itself out by that day. I'm sure there will be 2012-fatigue. No better time than now to start sharing those thoughts...

Very cool

...And on a lighter note Cleveland vs. Pittsburgh Who wins? Pittsburgh Why? They have a downtown Chipotle

Why do you concern yourself with Cleveland so much, if you hate it so ? This type of thread (Cleveland vs. somebody) is just your type of fodder. I guess it's so that you can strategically throw insults and regurgitate statistics that we already know about... Those of us that live here, live this stuff everyday. The fact is, is that it's no secret that Cleveland is in rough shape. Our only peer (and my second-favorite city) is Detroit. We both have our work cut out for us. *****NOTE: I wrote this before you edited your prior remark. That last thing I read was how you "hardly think the slums have gentrified..." Maybe you felt the need to temper your remarks******

Yes it did. Euclid Ave.and Upper prospect not to mention all the other places around the eastern edge of downtown from E. 9th to where Tri-C is (i think that's what you said yesterday?). And these neighborhoods like Glenville and E. Hough do not have enough of their best houses left. Or they are too far gone for restoration. It cannot compare to a lot of other cities' housing stock.

That's not entirely implausible. Do you realize that a good number of residents on Euclid Ave.'s "Millionaire's Row" and the adjacent Upper Prospect had in their wills , that upon their death , their homes (gorgeous, stunning, unlike-anything-else mansions that cost thousands (millions?) to build) were to be RAZED. And their children had already left for the Heights. Why? Because they couldn't bear the thought that it may someday be a rooming house. These are many of the people who were the benefactors of and built University Circle. Cleveland was such a quickly-expanding blue collar town, that the thought was : move out to the tree-lined streets of the Heights and let the ever-encroaching Warehouses take the land my Edwardian mansion sits on. I'll tear it down for them ! That's why there's only like 3 mansions left on Euclid Ave. and only a smattering of places in Midtown / Upper Prospect.

^You just answered you own question. Suburban folk. I guess they are making Cleveland vibrant

I know that philanthropist Jeptha Wade's donation of acreage east of the CBD has been called a non-plan on this thread...but to me it was planned...and the planning of University Circle 5 miles away from the CBD is one of the worst things that could've happened. Even to those of you who think this just "evolved" this way by happenstance...it was unfortunate then that it did so. And we're living with the consequences today. I love Cleveland...lived here all my life...but I like Pittsburgh because of the closer-placement of Oakland and all the benefits thereof. And probably so would many recent graduates /professionals. How hard is this to see?

I believe that the distance between Public Square and the intersection of Euclid Ave. & East Blvd. (the closest thing to a "center" of UC) is approaching 5 miles, if not exactly. Traveling on Euclid Ave. of course. If someone from out-of-town were to take some people's advice (and this is the advice of many Clevelanders ,btw) and get on the Shoreway at E.9th St...get off at MLK Dr...travel through Rockefeller Park southward and find Euclid Ave...then were talking a HUGE commute and many miles. Imagine being someone just moving here and experiencing that. You'd want to live in the Heights as well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand that central cities is the focus of your statistics, and on paper Cleveland obviously looks terrible...but if the neighborhoods, architectural quality, (somewhat good) shopping and the demographics (most importantly) of the directly bordering municipalities of Cleveland Hts and Shaker Hts were instead within the Cleveland City limits, this would be a whole different story. And this is because, and I will continue to contend this ad nauseum, of the far-away placement of University Circle. At least... at the very least... if this placement of the cultural stuff / colleges / museums (i.e. Univ Circle) was a couple more miles closer to the CBD, there would be a much better chance that these tree-lined walkable neighborhoods would've evolved within Cleveland City limits. And from these discussions...it's these "Shadysides" and "Squirrel Hills" that seem to make or break a central city. Definitely when it comes to young professionals. In Cleveland, it's Cleveland Hts and Shaker that reap these benefits.

Today (is) was such a cloudy, overcast day in Cleveland... here's last Sunday's sunrise

I am reading this link at the same time as all of you. It was referred to me at work by someone who is "less-anecdotal". I usually don't bother him but. I think I will have to investigate this a little more. I do know that their plans for a reference lab structure were much more grandiose than is stated. This news release makes it seem the opposite. So I don't know what to think of that. Could just be some sort of spin on the subject. I will have to see if the concern for the site is warranted. :-)