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I've gotten so used to this corner being dead, it will be surreal when these great projects are finished. And of course, few (if any) UOer has ever seen this version of the Schofield Building ... well, maybe MTS.

^Yeah, I get you. The thank you should really only be at Tower City; maybe the airport... I don't think RTA's programmers have quite gotten the old idea that, often, less is more. Ie, that annoyingly chatty guy/voice on the Red Line, which RTA still hasn't improved-- to the point where engineers apparently simply disconnect the thing.

Well that sounds nice... But is it the same computer/mechanical female voice?

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of Cadillac Ranch either -- way too much space and usually empty -- but the patio was cool (and hot with the winter, horizontal fireplace in winter) and was needed right at that bend when Euclid transitions from PS. The attractive Pura Vida restaurant next door helps, but it needs an active neighbor--it feels like the key-point hole has returned since Cadillac went out. I wouldn't mind a super-size Walgreen's in that space. I'm not wild about the CVS brand, esp the cramped franchise at E. 9th. For some reason drug/convenience stores aren't well located in many of Cleveland's walking neighborhoods, save the CVS at Shaker Square and the other one at Cedar-Lee. A large, classy multi-purpose Walgreen's at the Cadillac location would be welcome, esp with the large apartment apt group at May's coming in.

I just glanced at the recent Market analysis... Maybe I'm reading into it (and admittedly, for the moment I skimmed it), but it seems like it's making a strong case for extending the Red Line. It is also the 1st time, officially, where I've seen the suggestion of a mini Red Line extension to Noble. I'm very encouraged by the HRT precedents cited and the belief similar development could happen at Noble, Ivanhoe Rd and even Euclid Square. This is very positive imho.

Thanks... I'll be looking.

So far so good. I'm very pleased with the draft -- Wiggins (esp), Harris and Powell all appear to be very nice pieces -- and the Griffin regime seems to be making all the right moves. Being proactive and reaching out to Kyrie, flying to NJ and quickly getting the max deal done, was both classy and professional... I do admit, though, I'm still just a tad iffy about Blatt, but my minor anxieties about him are dropping daily the more I hear about this guy from the guys who've worked with or played under him, as well as hearing his own comments.

^It's been mentioned by UOers that new infill stations should be looked into along the Red Line (W. 85, Buckey-Woodland, W. 41/44, to name a few) to build up TOD opportunities in the adjacent communities. IIRC you responded that in order to get this done, the communities themselves must first approach RTA to in order to get this process started (you'll correct me if I'm wrong)... But first, I'd think RTA would need to have effective education efforts on the concept and benefits of TOD. Is this happening? Surprisingly Cleveland City council members seem very quiet about transit and TOD in their communities despite the obvious potential advantages to their constituents. I'm I wrong about this? What's the situation regarding this and is anybody working to change/improve this situation: RTA? community leaders? the Councilmen/women themselves?

Nice photo set, mrclifton... Initially there was some grumbling that the County Admin services building might look bland/ugly... Now, it looks anything but.

Oh, you're baaad!! :whip:

Typical low-brow, vulture/irresponsible PD. This kinda crap overshadows the few great writers they have, like Michelle and Steve Litt.

My guess would be no, and that it would make great sense to put trolley's back in there. And I think it's far enough from the existing W. 25 station to be feasible. A ramp up at/near W. 28 could create a tram line that could serve the north sides of Ohio City, Detroit-Shoreway and possibly Edgewater/Edgewater Park... I would connect the other end into old/extant Shaker Rapid station.

I wonder if they could cut through the south wall and put windows in. You would think it would enhance the value of the new apartments coming in. It would certainly end that longtime Public Square visual eyesore.

Interesting set... Without seeing this first, if I were to imagine what Fr. Smith, AR looked like, it would match up pretty close to this.

I think Bennett is going to have a nice season. Injury-free, better coach, year under his belt; he'll learn from his mistakes. He showed flashes late last season when Brown finally gave him time to play.

I get what he's saying. The wide, curving streets with heavy, fast-moving traffic in that area isn't exactly pro-pedestrian. It really isolates the UC-Cedar station from areas to the west of Stearns-Stokes. This is one place where I think an overhead walkway would be useful. Eeeeeeeh, that would look so Vegas tacky. I agree with an overhead walk at this location. Sometimes you have to give a little on ascetics to achieve a much more important goal. The Stearns-Stokes blvd area is a potential growth area, including the proposed luxury high-rise apt building on the current Children's Museum site. Besides let's face it, that particular corner, with its bland office buildings (including the County Morgue), that backside of Case's campus, isn't all that beautiful to begin with. Sometimes we're too quick to react to progress based on past precedent that isn't necessarily applicable (ie, the Horseshoe walkway that IS a visual impairment to the historic Higbee's building as opposed to one over a nondescript corner like MLK/Cedar Hill)... I'm often guilty of it myself... A reasonably attractive overhead walkway that would enhance TOD possibilities for the area trumps the minimal aesthetic concerns

Wiggins was my guy.

Depends on your context. 50,000 riders for a 19-mile medium, low density city like Cleveland's is pretty good. And throw in our Rust Belt/rough economy, and it's very respectable. .. Baltimore's Metro is a 15-mile HRT including a substantial downtown, close-in subway, and draws 51,000/day.

^Such a network for NEO would be sweet, absolutely... I'm really excited about California's HSR project, which is pushing forward despite conservative whiners -- and remember, a large chunk of their $$ is from the rejected projects in Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida (rejected by their GOP guvs). I think once California gets theirs done, other states will follow through. At the very least, the prospects for the Midwestern Hub with conventional trains look good.

Ron Artest/Metta World Peace contained LeBron nicely when Artest/MWP was in his prime. He frustrated LeBron a lot.

I think Parker's alleged "lack of lateral speed" is more than a little overblown. He plays under control while in the game. If you watch his workouts, he is very gifted athletically and explosive. If Wiggins did not come out of high school without the hype, he wouldn't be in the conversation for #1. Wiggins averaged 17 and 4 his freshman year and didn't shoot 50% from field. His total lack of a left hand and overall poor ball-handling skills are bigger red flags to me than Parker's defense. Wiggins for sure is no Durant, who averaged 25 and 11 his freshman year on plus 50%. He reminds me of Harrison Barnes..... just another kid who was tagged as the "next Lebron" coming out of high school who turns out to be a solid, but hardly spectacular, NBA player. Don't forget how many teams wasted picks in the 90's trying to find the "next Jordan" That's not overblown, it's fact. I've watched plenty of ACC and Duke, and Parker has a lack of foot speed and lateral quickness. Coach K would often have use double teams, or even switches, on Parker's man if he was big and quick... At 6'8" he's a natural 3 in terms size, but he'll likely play the 4 because his opponents are slower. A fast, quick player like LeBron, or even a lesser 3, would eat Parker alive... It's the same issue Bennett has, although Bennett has longer arms, a bigger body and greater jumping ability than Parker. Parker, obviously though, has a much better shooting touch as well as general offensive awareness.

Yes, but because the Shaker stations have platforms on both sides of the tracks rather than a single platform between the tracks (similar to the HealthLine) means GCRTA would have to have twice as many fare machines. That's twice as much upfront cost and twice as much maintenance. Having one fare machine on 30 of the light-rail trains is better than having at least two fare machines on the platforms at 34 stations. And having fare machines on the trains keeps them out of the elements. Now I can see some stations needing two fare machines like Green Road, Warrensville and Shaker Square (in addition to Tower City). And at Green Road and Warrensville, GCRTA would need to have the fare machines on only one platform. RTA doesn't have to go to that kind of expense... I would say, for most if not all, stations in Shaker, I'd just put 2 machines on the inbound platform where the overwhelming bulk of people are traveling anyway. If you put them near the cross-street side RTA could put signs in the outbound shelters (where there is an outbound shelter; I can only think of them at Onaway for the HS kids) or at the platforms, informing riders to buy tickets/passes from machines on the inbound platforms, it would work ... After a while it will be come such a regular routine, few will complain ... its not like these stations get a lot of visitor/newbie riders anyway.

I disagree. Cleveland's Rapid has one of the fewest stops-per-mile of any rapid transit system a little more than 1 stop each mile. Even though Cleveland has moderate to lower density compared to some other major cities, there are still a number of neighborhoods that are passed by, by the Rapid-- more the Red Line than the older Blue and Green lines (including the Waterfront line) which have stations more convenient to the neighborhoods the lines traverse. The Red Line zooms by a number of neighborhoods that are developing or are ripe for TOD, like Buckeye-Woodland, W. 41-44 and W. 85. The move to relocate E. 120 to Little Italy is an example of moving a station to where people and retail are. Any rapid transit system that runs along a RR ROW, esp the kind of windy-twisty route the Red Line follows, is bound to hit the edges of built up neighborhoods, or miss them entirely. But there are a number of points along the Red Line, namely those mentioned above, that are accessible to people and development... ... and the good news is, E.Rocc, is that the Red Line would lose very little speed as a result adding these few station-stops (maybe 1 or 1.5 extra minutes), given the speed boarding/un-boarding the POP fare collection system.

^^^The Hubbard Cooke building is an amazing structure; glad to see its planned rehab. Just looking at its narrow facade you don't immediately realize how deep and huge it is dropping down the steep grade.

Yes, I know how vanilla POP works, but because of the costs of full equipment installation at stations and the general cynicism about POP, I was suggesting a hybrid system. There's really nothing wrong with requiring front door boarding at surface stations in most cases, when only a handful of riders get on, or allowing passengers to purchase fares on-board. The goal should be to improve boarding time while retaining fare verification routines that don't slow things down. I might be taking the suspicion about POP too seriously, but there seems to be conventional wisdom that fare skipping on the HL is rampant, even with the occasional police checks. I think biker16 is right, though. Given the high share of riders who enter or exit at Tower City or use passes of some sort, I'm guessing fare leakage is going to be fairly low as long as we require exit fare verification there. Better just to keep things simple and adopt the fairly standard pay/tap on-board model, with POP-like random checks. No, I didn't meant to imply you didn't know, because I know you know. I just thought you were incorporating the soon to be inaugurated magnetic touch fare cards with POP... I believe RTA has implied or stated that installing fare machines at the 30-plus Blue-Green stops would be too expensive, but I think it would be money well spent. I would also think RTA could get FTA matching funds for such a capital expense.