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Damn!!!! Friggin' scheming anti-transit Republicans at work, again! :whip: :shoot:

Yeah, they put us through Game 5's only for the PAYOFF tonight. And if Wally World is knocking them down like this, we could go all the way. And now, Holly Sh!t!! Boston vs. Hawks a 1 game series; anything can happen and these Atlanta kids are fired up. If we're not playing Atlanta, you'd have to think the Cavs have a psychological edge having thoroughly dispatched a much tougher team in 6 while Boston struggles w/ the worst team, record-wise, in the playoffs. LeBron; Boys, kick back and enjoy relaxing watching the tube on Sunday waiting to see who your next victim will be!!!! GO CAVS!!!! :-D :clap:

^Kind of disheartening that, in 1989, a 121-year old (then, I'm assuming), obviously architecturally significant home was 3 days from meeting the wrecking ball ... in Ohio City, no less. 1989 wasn't that long ago; well after Ohio City had become a 'happening' hood even though not to the extent it is, now perhaps. Obviously, I'm glad this home was saved, but that it needed to be at the zero hour gives one pause.

I think we'll come back and end it in DC... As many points as LeBron had, he mentally seemed adrift tonight all the way up to the miss on his last drive w/ 3.5 seconds left; he turned it off and on. I expect him to be on Friday and we'll end it; that's our pattern. We for some reason, w/ the exception of the Detroit "party" last season, don't seem to like to let our fans enjoy a home close-out win... I wish the Cavs brought it every game, but well.... Btw give Caron Butler huge props. Eddie Jordan, too: that "hack-a-Ben" sequence was another key Cavs' momentum killer; very smart play by Jordan.

No excuse for this... Only Z seemed to play with a sense of urgency tonight and he had my Game Ball - a shame to waste such an effort... The sad thing is Washington had all but packed their golf clubs; if, w/ 5 up, LeBron drives in scores or gets fouls and even hits 1 of 2 FTs, they're done... You never let an opponent up off the mat like that. Hope it doesn't come back to bite is in the arse.

Damn! Why did LeBron jack that foolish 3 with the Cavs up by 5 and 1.23 left? If he drove and got the foul we could have closed it out. LeBron giveth and, sometimes, LeBron taketh away... Z was heroic tonight, the rest of our Bigs? Horrible. Joe couldn't shoot. Andy's playing like he's in lala land, driving crazily and just heaving the ball at the bucket, and Ben's D was lacking. I sure hope that didn't open the door to Washington winning this thing... Why do the Cavs ALWAYS seem to make things so difficult?

This is very good. While there's always the risk of some privacy invasion, and we'd hope RTA doesn't ever fall into the hands of Big Brother, more security than less can never be a bad thing... Hard to believe so many nutcases use system. We've probably all had some brush with one/some of them... It'd be nice if everybody would realize it exists to take you from Point A to Point B, but...

Great shots. Brings back Sunday memories of Dad taking us down to watch the iron curtain RR bridges to up & down... the Canal Rd. tunnel, under the Rapid and the bowels of Tower City, has got to be one of the spookiest roads in Cleveland. The street's usually in terrible condition as well... I sure hope the density and character of these old buildings, which are outside Wolstein's footprint, can be kept and that they may thrive with spin-off development. Some time ago, someone reported the Watermark restaurant was coming back, but I've seen no evidence... would be nice.

Certainly seems to make sense, although I've never set foot in Austin so I can't speak intelligently about it. I could only guess, given mrnyc's map w/ MLK being double-lined as opposed to Manor, where LRT would be that, maybe MLK would be a stronger gathering point, perhaps for reverse commuters, than Manor, even w/ LRT in Manor, but like I say, I just don't know Austin well enough to know. I do, however, agree with the glaring lack of interconnectivity of some rail networks, and Baltimore is Exhibit A; a clear example, esp w/ regard to Wm. Donald Schaeffer's LRT, which was much more a politically expedient animal – with it’s slow street running, lack of connectivity w/ Metro (it does connect well w/ MARC commuter rail at Camden Yards but poorly at Penn Station) and poor routing at the edges of traffic corridors, even downtown -- than a serious rapid transportation artery, esp given its immense cost… And Baltimore’s paying dearly for this as there have been proposals to reroute the line closer to traffic (hello Dual Hub!!) and try and drop it, or a parallel line, perhaps under Cathedral Street, into a subway through the downtown area… That was my point in the Detroit discussion – not to belabor that one any further… When cities rush to build; build any old thing just to say or pretend you’re truly building “Rapid Transit” you get… Baltimore.

I disagree because I'm talking about decreasing waking distances rather than lengthening them. My plan is to not only put Van Aken and the Rapid underground through the intersection, but well before it on both sides, allowing buildings and pedestrian walkways & plazas to be built over top and/or encroach upon the upon what is the ocean-like concrete & rail divide of the current Van Aken and the wide Rapid car lot (which currently sits with mainly rusting, uses tracks). But as I said, one of the big advantages, also, is removing severe traffic from 2 key points by putting it underground, which also would speed the Rapid and make its extension to the Highlands even more viable. Mere traffic calming, or further traffic diversion, simply isn't going to work at this intersection because it’s the vertex of too heavy of traffic from several different directions. If you pinch a human artery, the blood is going to back up into other organs. That's not unlike what will happen here if you expect to 'calm' it with narrower streets and a surface running through the middle of the Rapid, a la Shaker Square, which is much, much less challenging from a thru (auto) traffic POV.

There is a sad commentary in this, that Ohio fails to provide the funds to urban areas to allow for their redevelopment unless a road project is involved. In this case, that road is next to a competing rail transit line. The addition of parallel transportation capacity will disperse ridership from the Red Line, for which Greater Clevelanders already have made a substantial investment. Not surprising, really. Ohio's kind of a backwards state, in some ways.

Traffic calming isn't going to help with such a busy intersection. The most cogent way to lessen traffic is dropping Northfield-Van Aken + the Rapid into an underpass. With this traffic cut, there's more possibility to develop TOD on the surface.

Nope. What I'm saying is that the Average Joe doesn't care what you call it. He doesn't know the different terms and doesn't care to know them. That may be. But does it not matter what the system that's built IS, regardless of what it's called?

^So KJP, you're saying it really doesn't matter what the quality of transit being developed so long as the average "Joe" (6 or 4 pack) can be convinced (see: conned) as to what is tax dollars are being spent on, no? This project is moving Detroit in the right direction, no doubt. I just think, for a city that size and in a downtown corridor that's growing in residential and retail density, they not be afraid to stick the line underground for faster/better service and more effective use of street frontage for higher density/more focused growth. Is that too much to ask in a city of 900,000/metro area 4.5 mil? ... of have we totally wimped out on development of serious transit -- at least in some cities (w/ neither Seattle nor LA not being among them).

^^I really wish a proper distinction will be made in what Detroit sounds like it's attempting to build: a street car or a trolley. We've let "Light Rail" (as in truly rapid transit) morph in to being any rail transit system with medium to low platforms no matter whether it has extensive (or in Detroit’s case, any) grade-separated right of way to truly speed trains significantly beyond street-bound buses. But if it rides in a street, or in the median all the way into the center of Detroit down the busiest street, Woodward, intersecting traffic, this is NOT light rail and to call it such is a fraud on the public.

I'm with you jpop... Somewhere, above, I believe Stark set a deadline for submitting a proposal to the CPC... We'll see if he follows through... We should have a contest to see which occurs 1st: Bob Stark delivering a concrete proposal with specific building goals, or UO/Pesht thread reaching 100 pages speculating about what Stark will do -- right now I'm betting on UO; we're only 42 pages away!!

I just don't see RTA, with GM Joe at the helm, being all that interested in adding any new rail lines. -- KJP Amen to that!

Washington Wizards, who's your daddy now?... I agree w/ Barkley, they're the dumbest team in the history of the NBA... and a journeyman like Deshawn Stevenson doing a facial move after a 3-pt'r ... to get them 16 POINTS BEHIND!!!! That idiot needs to go grow his beard some more w/ Drew. GO KING (MVP) JAMES! .... GO CAVS!!!!!

... both begin w/ the letter "C".

I'd be curious as to why EPA settled its suit; since Adams chose to close in '98 rather than comply with new pumps, was it merely a matter of lump-summing EPA fines? Gas station redev is often a messy affair because of the tedious job of removing the toxic & unstable vaporous storage tanks beneath. I suppose Adams is playing the same game of chicken as the Wolstein 12 in the prolonged, recently-settled FEB-eminent domain battle.

Great info, JeTDoG. Impressive.

As for street/pedestrian activity generated by this structure? I'm less worried about it as it's going to be a 9-to-5 office building where, after 6p, it'll be dead... around the time FEB should be heating up... Like I said, I'm glad this office building will be part of the mix. I'm less worried about a ground level connection to WFL b/c, by dint of the busy railroad, the ingress and egress of this building, by foot, car and Rapid, must be elevated via ramps and 2nd floor plazas anyway.

I believe it is elevated to allow for a pedestrian passageway and/or street to allow connection to the building inside the loop, originally to be a new Great Lakes aquarium, and condo/townhouse development on the other side in the area now where the Port is. Engineering-wise, it would be rather unpalatable to bring the WFL back to earth so abruptly, esp with the sharp turns that exist in so short a space. People already joke WFL is like a rollercoaster as it is, imagine if ...

One thing about being a Clevelander is knowing its rhythm which is why warm Saturday mornings/early afternoons are prime time for Ohio City; bringing visitors there absolutely blows them away; usually there's a dropped jaw: '... I had no idea...' phrase viz Cleveland mentioned. As one who travels extensively in this country, I can think of few hoods that can top its mix of things creating urban interesting-ness/greatness (shops, architecture, foot-traffic, compact-ness, high-density living, etc)... and accessible by rapid rail transit, too… With hoods like OC, who needs frigigin’ Chicago, anyway? (some tongue ‘n cheek, of course .. but not totally!) The summer fairs are great; they helped get OC on its feet, activity-wise (besides the long standing WSM tradition)… nowadays, even when the fairs aren’t going, Saturdays in OC are always hopping and the RTA Red Line stop mirrors an L or subway station.