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The Edge is one of the cooler nabes in Greater CLE but for some reason CLE+ doesn't list it (in it's tour book or on those downtown maps around Public Square) as one of the "it" neighborhoods, like D-S, Ohio City, Shaker Square, U. Circle ... even West Park. I wonder why? Not only is it hip, it's rich (the richest in Cleveland) and with the Lake and Edgewater Park thrown in ... and, of course, STARBUCKS! Nothing screams "it" like having a Starbucks... Glad to see all the renovation going on to the old brownstone apt buildings in the area; many are classic esp along Clifton. Mixed in with the old Victorian houses (and rowhouses), they add a nice flavor to the area... When I was in the area earlier this summer, I was happy to finally see one of those extension cranes sitting in front of that beautiful old Gothic-y apt building on W. 112 1-block south of Detroit signaling renovation... It's a beautiful and substantial building, but has been boarded up for years. It just shows that RE interest and improvement is coming to the southern portion of Edgewater as well: a district that has long been felt to be Edgewater's rougher side.

^...which once again demonstrates the positive transformative effect of high quality mass transit. If it can alter LA, then it can anywhere.

CBS Morning: LA, Denver and the Rail Revolution

^Sure would be nice to revive that old plan to extend the CVSR into downtown/Tower City with a station stop at Steelyard... but I'm sure that's just a pipe-dream, at this point.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Been to 2 games at the Pro and I don't even live FT in the CLE anymore --- also caught a Tribe game in Camden Yards during that 4-game sweep debacle at the hands of the Orioles. If I lived in Cleveland I'd go to a ton of games (love baseball, the Indians and downtown + live right along the Rapid) if not season tics based on my work (and other) schedule.

I'm thrilled to have Coco back. He's got serious pop in his bat and is a good teammate.

People can get mad all they want, but for this team to be drawing under 12,000/game for a first place team (and has been so for 3+ straight months) 2 days before September is bizarre. Any objective person would have to question the long-term viability of the Indians remaining in Cleveland with such a paltry gate under these circumstances.

I'm saying that the state should support cities to allow them to function to the maximum extent they can under the circumstances and not allow the legislature's party in power to implement its narrow political agenda. That is to not ram a highway through an urban area under the slick guise it is some kind of community development tool while, by the way, withholding funds for environmental cleanup surrounding this highway and disallowing the community its home rule abaility and right to favor local citizens as employees to build this road... And it also means not starving to death more healthy community focused programs like public transit for, once again, a narrow, insane republican political agenda like, as some GOPers love to ignorantly spout, that mass transit in essence only the supposed liberal agenda of "social engineering." The city is not the state's prostitute. That's what I mean.

I hear what you're saying... On the one hand, I applaud planners and the CPC for thinking out of the box with aggressive and different architectural schemes, like nuCLEus and the new Hilton... On the other, the fact this muscular, stacked complex will dominate our skyline gives me pause, plus the design just seems so provocatively unbalanced I sometimes wonder about it's structural integrity... I'm sure they know what they're doing, however, and I do love the planned function of this massive project even if I'm not in love with its form.

Those dirty, rotten state republicans -- John Kasich included. Their agenda is to gut home rule and make big cities the wards of the state in order to further their conservative agenda statewide. Stick it to 'em, Frank.... I of course have been opposed to this crazy project from the get go and was disappointed in local leaders, Jackson included, for buying into it because I saw this coming. It has always to be a freeway in the minds of planners and all the neighborhood and transit enhancement enhancement talk was just a ruse go garner local political support. I just wish Frank and others had similarly seen this ahead of the fact... but now that this road is an inevitability, demand the residential and development perks the promoters were selling. John Kasich could give a damn about Cleveland's well being, only that his highway contractor cronies get their pockets juiced. I'm at least pleased that Frank is playing hardball with these clowns and not giving up an inch.

^Wow, I never realized the situation was that bad at MLK. I think, Jetdog, if RTA gave this level of detail people may be more understanding of the shutdowns. Oftentimes the reasoning is more vague. Thanks for the info, though.

^from Alan Glazen in the comments section of the above Crain's article: "Thanks for the nice writeup! Cleveland Bagel will be open in a few weeks at 4201 Detroit, across from The Harp. You'll be able to purchase bagels straight out of the oven, plus great sandwiches and their own 'brewed for bagels" coffee."

^I agree wholeheartedly and certainly hope EC City council calms down and takes a dose of reality... I find it laughable that THEY are the ones driving a hard bargain here when, from their POV, nothing but good can come about with annexation -- well, except those high and mighty EC officials who helped run the city into the ground will likely get knocked off their pristine perches. I give Mayor Norton a lot of credit for getting the ball rolling on this. He is the same mayor who moved to get those nice looking town homes at Euclid and Lakeside built. Norton gets it... As Councilman Kelly alludes, this is likely just the opening round. I'm hoping cooler heads in EC will get these crazy officials off their faux high-horse and come forward with more reasonable proposals... EC's citizens deserve better. There's still a lot of save-able parts of East Cleveland despite it's overall dilapidated state. The most save-able portions are along Euclid and to the east, esp along Terrace Rd and up the hill. So many solid, well-built homes and large brownstone apt buildings along/near Euclid are withering away but, I'll bet, can be rehabbed and saved. There are still walkable areas along Euclid, esp in/around Euclid's intersections with Lee and Taylor Roads, as well as a number of spots in between. And of course there are the Rockefeller-tract nice homes on the hill, along with Hazel and Oakhill Roads which are the nicest streets in the whole city -- streets that easily could fit in Shaker or Cleveland Heights...

You know companies get a federal tax break by paying part or all of their employers monthly transit fares...

^They apparently already have; noting but a vacant lot... must have been a huge job.

^... and the name "Detroit" would likely throw people who have no idea it's the name of a major Cleveland street.

^Within the last year or so they tore down that vacant KFC across the street (E. 130) from the gas station.

This new group is definitely a move in the right direction. As the writer notes, this approach was tried back in the 70s but didn't make a ton of progress -- but those were volatile times and a different era, so I hope progress is made this time around. I just hope the Buckeye Road corridor can be saved and enhanced; it's got great bones. Buckeye and it's norther cousin Larchmere are very similar, but Buckeye actually is denser with more brick mixed-use buildings built closer to the curb making Buckeye seem considerably narrower than Larchmere... I just hope these demolitions around Drexmore and Buckeye are replaced with viable projects and soon. As much as I dislike all the fast foods in the area, that big vacant lot at E. 130 & Buckeye is off-putting...

^You're probably right. ... No, there was no neighborhood rivalry; apparently the whole season is geared toward finding start-ups to review the Gordon-Square strip. However several times that showed a map of Detroit-Shoreway referring to it as Gordon Square. -- but your point is well take; it's all good. Councilman Zone also got some face time and the initial meetings were at the Michael Zone Rec Center. Geez, sorry about the spoiler although it was pretty predictable-- you'll still enjoy it all the same.. I figured everyone watched last night -- I taped it, too, myself and am spreading the word to my out of town friends...

Detroit-Shoreway is probably too confusing for a national viewer.

I really enjoyed the show. I'm a Shark Tank fan, and the Cleveland Hustles show runners don't deny they ripped off the concept, but took ST out of the studio and added a community development angle, with a dash of reality show...LeBron obviously brings celebrity attention to the show, but I like that he only introduced CH and then was gone as not to distract -- Bonin was running things and everybody on screen last night was likable -- I didn't want either group to lose although the bagel guys clearly had a product and demographics advantage. Cleveland itself looked great and the idea that this show not only promotes the City and her can-do residents while actually enhancing a neighborhood makes CH a win-win... ...btw I found it curious that they labled the entire Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood as Gordon Square even though the Square is the focus of the show's entrepreneurial activity.

There has been no funding so no telling what will actually happen. My parents moved there 20 years ago so I'm pretty familiar with the place, and have to say that it's basically doomed if it grows significantly. Its layout it much more complex than it appears and is incredibly ill-suited to express buses, light rail, bicycles, etc. The rock the whole city sits on is unusual and in earlier articles basically all tunnel construction has been ruled out as being prohibitively expensive. You obviously know a lot more about Nashville than I do. I've never been there and the extent of my knowledge of Nashville is that it appears to be pretty cultural as home to Vanderbilt and Fisk universities as well as the Grand Ole Opry, and that the Tennessee Titans play there ... ... Maybe Nashville's $6B proposal will not get funded or built as proposed. Who knows? But what I find refreshing, is that everybody, all the Nashville transit and civic leaders, are all pushing for this; the board has made this its mandate and they are going to go after it... We've seen this happen in Denver, and look at the results. Dallas too, and Seattle is similarly going after it to finish a massive LRT program that just started in the last decade... ... It is so refreshing compared to places like Cleveland, where the transit chief is against rail expansion and, rather than support rail, other powerful voices use rail expansion proposals as their favorite whipping boy to take down: It's happened again and again, probably since 1919, but most notably in more recent years is Al Porter killing the subway; Norm Krumholtz killing the Green Line mode-mixer 1.5 mile extension to I-271 and Dennis Kucinich killing both the People Mover and (indirectly) commuter rail through Lakewood, RR and Lorain County... and yes, NOACA (aka "No Action") being too damn cheap to finish the Dual-Hub proposal... Cleveland has to rank along with Detroit as the most negative city for rail transit in the country... The weird thing is, Cleveland already has rail; some at least. And it seems some leaders won't be happy until it is gone (RTA's crumbling LRVs with no concrete plan, or money, to replace them and Joe's backing running Opportunity Corridor BRT's parallel to the east side Red Line). How backwards... This is all a major fly in the ointment against all the GOOD that's happening in Cleveland.

^Derailed Red Line train not making the news!? Is this RTA's fault or the local media's... Glad lakewood and nobody else was hurt, but ho-boy, I'll bet the injury/pain 'n suffering claims are going to hit RTA.

If you read what I said, I didn't say they were using the old Blue Cars, but clearly had bought or were trying to buy them. ... Try reading more carefully in the future.