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^ Those cities were already growing. The estimates seem to be higher then the actual population for shrinking cities. We will see what happens. Hopefully the estimates for Ohio are low

^ Which so far havent. I can see every major Ohio city shrinking besides Columbus.

In a perfect world, I would have the owners cut the pay of the players, ticket costs, concessions and apparel. With the money saved from paying the players less, the owners could then pass those savings down to the fans, the people that keep the league alive. Ticket prices and concessions have become just outrageous. The owners would still have the same profit margin because they would be paying the players less. The players already get paid greatly. And the players union might complain but what can they do. For most of the players its the best opportunity out there for them even if they have to take a pay cut. And kids coming out of college will still take the still extremely large salary instead of going into a real career.

With an 18 game season, all records would be destroyed. 1000 yard rushing season would be nothing, which it has already become, but even more so. They need to stay at 16 games. Plus you already start to see a ton of injuries at the end of the season, imagine how bad it would be with two additional games.

With this being one of the major differences during the discussions, which one, as a fan, would you like to see?

Why doesn't Summit and Portage counties count in Cleveland's MSA? Here is a map from the 2000 census showing Ohios different MSA's http://ohiolmi.com/maps/MapofMSAs2000.htm

^^Thanks!

For people who missed it, Cavs beat the Knicks. Thats got to be pretty disappointing for Carmelo

Here: http://tinyurl.com/6d634r9

This is from 2000 and im not sure if this has been posted before. RANKING: CBD EMPLOYMENT 1 New York 1,736,900 2 Chicago 541,500 3 Washington 382,400 4 San Francisco-San Jose 305,600 5 Boston 257,000 6 Philadelphia 220,100 7 Seattle 155,100 8 Houston 153,400 9 Los Angeles 143,700 10 Atlanta 129,800 11 Denver 126,000 12 Minneapolis-St. Paul 105,400 13 Cleveland 100,300 14 Baltimore 98,500 15 Miami 98,000 16 Pittsburgh 95,600 17 Columbus 88,800 18 Austin 86,000 19 New Orleans 81,400 20 Dallas-Fort Worth 79,900 - - 23 Cincinnati 73,900 45 Dayton 26,200 RANKING: CBD TRANSIT MARKET SHARE 01. New York City: 1,283,400 (73.9%) 02. Chicago: 299,600 (55.3%) 03. Boston: 133,600 (52.0%) 04. Bay Area: 151,400 (49.5%) 05. Philadelphia: 102,000 (46.4%) 06. Washington DC: 145,700 (38.1%) 07. Seattle: 54,100 (34.9%) 08. Pittsburgh: 31,300 (32.8%) 09. Minneapolis-Saint Paul: 31,700 (30.0%) 10. Portland: 23,700 (29.8%) 11. Denver: 26,800 (21.3%) 12. Baltimore: 19,500 (19.8%) 13. Los Angeles: 28,100 (19.6%) 14. Cleveland: 19,100 (19.0%) 15. Houston: 25,700 (16.8%) 16. Cincinnati: 12,300 (16.6%) 17. Honolulu: 8,100 (15.9%) 18. Atlanta: 18,600 (14.4%) 19. Dallas-Fort Worth: 11,400 (14.3%) 20. New Orleans: 10,200 (12.6%) - - 32 Columbus 7,000 (7.8%) http://www.demographia.com/db-cbd2000.pdf

What is the workforce population now for Downtown and University Circle anyways?

So I dont know if this has been discussed but for the Varsity Village, kind of like what Case has, since its baseball field, what about homeruns? Isn't that kind of dangerous/stupid to put dorms right by the field? Its different for Case because that is a football field, so your not going to run into the same problems.

Show it appears that almost 3 million Hispanics moved to Texas since 2000. It said without the minority gains, Texas would have hardly gained

^ lol, 140,000 gain is still pretty large

^ That and Cleveland State Elementary School hopefully can help us improve and give people thinking about leaving the city once they have a child an another opportunity.

Nothing new really Cleveland's old convention center open to the elements The Plain Dealer will provide weekly updates on construction of the $465 million medical mart and convention center. CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Construction crews have dug holes the size of football fields in Malls B and C, exposing the existing underground convention center to snowy weather. Workers are demolishing the ballroom roof, but they're protecting the floor, which will be used in a new convention center, said Jeff Appelbaum, Cuyahoga County's pointman for the project. The county has partnered with Chicago-based MMPI to build the taxpayer-financed convention center and connected medical mart, which are scheduled to open in 2013. http://www.cleveland.com/medicalmart/index.ssf/2011/02/existing_cleveland_convention.html

Could Houston pass Chicago in a couple decades from now. Maybe 2030. That would be crazy.

Of whats been released

I know there is still one game left but this is not a good way to finish the season. Losing 4 out of the last 6 games. Now we have to hope Milwaukee and Butler both lose their next game and we win ours.

Cavs waive Leon Powe

I think that loss just put us in third place. Milwaukee Butler Cleveland State Valparaiso

If we lose will it put Butler in first? That would suck!

Wow, from that story, KC grew by 4.1%. Shows how wrong Wikipedia can be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Missouri Population 507,336 up 14.9%

Chagrin Falls is more isolated making your combined commute, between the two of you, longer.

Yep its official