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Thanks! I can post the much larger version of it if you want.

Some may already know this - you can thank Lake Erie for that; well, the glaciers that formed it. Their movement and retreat which left us with the Great Lakes also left the downtown Cleveland area with a 200' thick layer of glacial shale deposited on top of the bedrock. I know gotribe can offer a lot more geotechnical insight but our area's soil is some of the worst to work with when it comes to constructing skyscrapers - in places like NYC, bedrock is just below street level - here, we have to excavate 200 feet below street level (at least) before construction (actual built construction) can even start. Any building well over 400ish feet needs to be anchored to bedrock for structural stability; the only other option is "floating pad" where the building rests on a thick concrete "pad" that's about 7 to 8 feet thick. But - that limits the height of the building that the pad can support to around 400 feet. Key, Terminal, 200 Public Sq., Erieview and a few others all rest on caissons that reach 200ish feet down to bedrock. I've always wondered how our skyline would look if the soil conditions weren't a factor. I was wondering what other cities if any have this problem. Why doesnt Chicago have it? or do they but not as bad...

On the lot on public square i hope we get something at least the height of erieview

I was bored so I decided to take all of Clevelands buildings and spread out the skyline by height... Drawings of the buildings are from skyscraperpage

i did the same thing. i looked through figuring out what ones are still there and which ones are gone. We lost a little bit of the height

PLEASE SHARE! yes please

Would it be economically feasible once the recession ends to renovate chesterfield to the full extent it needs to be?

our coaches seem to like running to the right though

Like subway...you can get pretty unhealthy food there too if you wanted

Yeah must be hard to show off

i believe it is

ahh if only....

Yeah having at least one Chipotle and Panera Bread in Cleveland wouldn't be a bad thing. Isn't there a Chipotle in Steelyard commons? But yeah having those in this location would be a good addition.

Im not a fan of Chipotle(dont hate me) but I would sure like to be the person who would put one there. It would make a killing. All of Case's students and Im sure CSU students would take the bus down there too. And would have good access for everyone else who is obsessed with it too.

Here is how it will look on euclid

I wouldnt call them unattractive. The sides that face euclid are nice. And the inside siding will be hidden by the new buildings

Its racism against whites to assume we are racist

Not sure if this was posted. Just imagine if they were still here http://www.cardcow.com/images/set300/card00792_fr.jpg

Good! I love Panera

the annoying thing is he actually thinks it is because of race

A crane up in Cleveland. CSU dorms Framework up

Yes James situation is not comparable to anybody elses. And race was not a factor

Oh but we all supported him and all the other black athletes and buy their jerseys and tickets and make them god like figures. How does race play any role in this. We have hated traitors in every sport for all time whether they are white, black asian or mexican.

I think there are several more important ROCK AND ROLL bands that need to get in before he does

LL COOL J is nominated