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Thanks. That is a nice view!

I would like to see something like this downtown. Larger trees in the middle of the street. I think it could work well in the Warehouse District.

It looks like a lot could remain. Hopefully they dont tear out more than needed.

Yeah, looks like this will all be gone.

Looks great! Wow!

Couldnt find a Galleria thread, so I guess it works here as well. Lizardville wants to add a patio and canopy

Some signage for the "Welcome Center" parking garage for the Casino.

Ive updated the map. Ive added parts of OTR and did city totals for what is calculated.

^ Check again I gave you the riverfront. Only makes things look worse for Cincinnati though. I was giving it the best downtown core that I knew. And you could have been a bit cooler about it. I said it was just a start, and wanted to atleast get something concrete going. And even if you dont like my original borders, atleast it gives you a basic idea of how many people live inside a certain area.

Here is a good start I think. Just zoom in to see the borders. http://g.co/maps/q6rts

Here is how I feel. Cleveland: 1. Ohio City and Tremont cannot be called downtown. Single family wooden framed houses do not scream downtown to anyone. They arent even that high of density. 2. The West Bank is a highly disconnect walk away from downtown and across the river. The residences are up the hill while the bottom of the hill is all parking lots. And most of the population is Lakeview Terrace which I doubt anyone besides 19 action news thinks of as Downtown. 3. Asiatown is way to far disconnected and on the other side of the highway. 4. Cleveland State is downtown in my eyes. It would be hard to stand on Euclid Avenue over there and not feel like you are downtown. Cincinnati: Over the Rhine is partially downtown in my mind. Denser, more active areas definitely feel like downtown to me. 1. Like Vine Street and west 13th. Standing at that intersection feels like your downtown in my opinion. 2. York Street and Dayton Street on the other hand, definitely doest seem like downtown to me and shouldn't be counted. Nor should the West End. 3. Basically anything west of West Central doesn't feel like downtown and shouldn't be counted in my opinion. 4. The Heart of OTR could easily be counted in my opinion. 5. On the other hand, I could easily see downtown as anything south of Central.

Cant wait to see this building finished.

Thanks! its coming along

I heard on the news in some random short interview that someone was disappointed that they only had video slots? No mechanical ones. Is this true?

^Two reasons for me. 1. Its highly disconnected from Downtown and and not very walkable. You can walk, but its a very disconnected one. 2. The majority of the West Bank's population is from Lakeview Terrace, which I definitely do not consider to be downtown. Also I dont consider Ohio City to be downtown either, and I dont consider the west bank as part of Ohio City. I view the West Bank as its own neighborhood.

^ Any renderings of the interior?

So for more accurate numbers, I got Cleveland - 7,217 Cincinnati - 4,221 Columbus - 5,546

And for Cincinnati with their 5,657 downtown population. Remove the 1,436 prisoners and you get down to 4,221. Im not familiar enough with Cincinnati to remove and homeless shelter if they exist downtown like I did with Cleveland.

Here is the most simple answer to everyones concerns. East 4th was mostly closed at 11:30 pm! Most of those places close at 10 pm on monday. So relax

I like honesty, and Cleveland people like PositivelyCleveland constantly spit out the 12,000 number or even the 10,000 number. I went over this in other threads and when you remove Prisoners and Homeless shelters, you get 7217 for Downtown Cleveland.

Here's what it said below that rendering in the 1989 magazine where that rendering came from..... Someone should call that phone number Hahahah! "Hi, I just saw an add in a magazine and am interested in leasing at The Gateway at Landmark. I was wondering if their is room still available" Ha! I would love to hear their reaction.

Yeah of course its possible. But Market Square is a 1.6 mile walk from the closest downtown resident, and is mostly a long walk over a long bridge. Not really downtown. And Flats west bank is a decent length unconnected walk

You cant honestly believe that their will be lines outside the doors forever.

^ Everyone has differnt opinions. I include CSU because its connected and continues along Euclid Avenue. Flats West Bank I dont include because its separated by the river and is not really continuously connected, and not that walkable IMO.

http://g.co/maps/45bw2 Do you think any borders should be extended? Should Ohio City go up to Detroit Avenue?