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^Thats awesome! Ha! How does it feel to be a movie star?

In all my Healthline trips, and at one point they were several rides daily, I only experienced them once. I honestly dont know what the hell they do. If they aren't checking for farecards, and they aren't even on the Tower City platform to help or secure. So what are they doing?!

Thanks! I hope I can make it out there this year

Thought it would be fun for everyone to list their top 5 favorite Cleveland festivals. You have a lot to choose from. Winterfest, Hessler Street Fair, Feast of Assumption, Ingenuity Fest, Taste of Tremont, Clifton Arts and Music Fest, City Hop, Parade the Circle, and many more. So what are your top 5?

The most recent list I could find. I believe it is from 2009. 1. New York 1,193,233 2. Chicago 355,194 3. Washington, DC 306,106 4. Boston 265,109 5. Philadelphia 263,939 6. Los Angeles 187,464 7. Seattle 183,216 8. San Francisco 166,058 9. Houston 150,328 10. Minneapolis 144,952 11. Denver 132,276 12. Atlanta 131,089 <b>13. Cleveland 128,731</b> 14. Pittsburgh 118,367 <b>15. Cincinnati 114,169</b> 16. Baltimore 106,678 17. Dallas 97,698 18. Kansas City 88,487 19. Detroit 80,840 20. San Diego 77,763

Public square was named the 7th worst square in need of improvement by Project for Public Spaces. http://www.pps.org/articles/underperformingus/ Ideally I would like to see Ontario and Superior closed and parking garage placed underneath the park(like millenium park). This would be a huge improvement. From there you need some landscape architects to design something awesome for Public Square, but something not repetitive of the Mall. I estimate about 518 parking spots could be placed underneath Public Square, making the Warehouse District Lots again less desirable. It could also connect underground to the Casino and Tower City, as well as having entrances onto the park. Maybe Dan Gilbert would interested, and help finance it since it could serve the Casino.

Perfectly said. I couldn't agree more.

The additions of the American Flag and Ohio Flag look good!

Cool! Thanks! Maybe it will help West Prospect become more inviting.

^ Thanks, looks like they are mixed income. Its amazing to see how they avoid the crime in the area. Those older places need to be torn down and redesigned. Even the newer ones were terribly designed. Past 3 months Red - Violent Green - Property Blue - Societal

Question, are the houses in Central, on East 39th, East 37th, East 46th all low income housing(Section 8, Public Housing, Subsidized)? Because I notice there is very low crime on these streets, less than popular streets in Ohio City and Tremont. But right next door in Arbor Park Village you see a lot of crime. A lot of violent crime. Also in the all the units north of Cuyahoga Community College. Just wondering because if they all have the same qualification standards? If they do, we can learn from this that the single family homes are a far better option in the future to build.

Im not sure about the quality here, but these might fit your price range and are located right by CSU. And the area around CSU is probably the safest area downtown, and I would say getting better as well. Yes its right next to Central, so high crime, BUT, the crime seems to not spill over for some reason. Possibly because of the borders(highway). http://www.miltonmanor.net/miltonmanorpage.html

Maybe we just need to get a few of use out there everynight with flashlights until they get the hint! :-P

^ At least the cheapskates who still want/have to drive will have to park further away and experience the city on the walk in!

I went in like a month after someone said that and it was all gone. They must have brought it back!. Does the basement run under the other space as well?

Damn those are awesome! That first picture is nearly perfect! If only that lift wasnt in the way. Still incredible though. Same as for the picture that shows both the casino and TT. Thanks!

Thanks! Or could it be room service? Didnt someone mention that on here a while ago? That all of the home decor section was removed from Dredgers Union?

Awesome view! Thanks for sharing. Someone with good zoom needs to go get some pics!

^ The difference I see is the loss of amazing buildings, that had great interaction with the street, streetcars, a the crowds of people. It has nothing to do with skin color. Not everybody is racist, and it is annoying to always hear that argument. In the pictures at least, you dont see any bums or homeless, or anyone sitting on the ground with a cup asking for money. I know women who dont like walking through public square because they get inappropriate comments, which is completely wrong, and can make a women feel extremely unsafe/uncomfortable. I bet one of our female posters can comment on that. Cars taking over the square also ruined it. I have personally seen fights, yelling, and public urination. And LITTERING(well the aftermath of it) I would like to see Public Square become a gathering place but the current layouts is terrible for that. Also the city's planning doesn't make much sense with the Malls awkwardly near by, competing for crowds. I still dont know why the group plan faced all the buildings away from the mall.

Thanks! Updates on construction are nice.

Saw them working on the foundation of the next building, where the retail will be. Glad to see they are moving along with phase 2 quickly. Also, bricks are going up currently on phase 1.

I guess I just fundamentally disagree with your inferred point that being lined with small retail storefronts is the only way public square can be relevant or nice or whatever adjective we want to use. And even if there were filled storefronts lining much of square, I'd still think the current configuration was a horrible waste of public space. I definitely agree that the current configuration is horrible. Improving that, will definitely help the square. But when I look the best Public Squares/spaces around the United States, and the World, they dont look or feel like our Public Square. They aren't lined with skyscrapers and other buildings with terrible interactions with the street. And its not just the new buildings. 200 Public Square and Key Tower are horrible additions to Public Square, if you want to base it on street life and interaction with the square. But the old courthouse is arguably worse. That just creates a large wall to walk next to, with no entrances or anything. Atleast the Towers feed onto the square, if the employees arent just walking to the attached garages. Look at the corner where the courthouse and Key Tower meet. It is one of the most lifeless parts of the square. Im fine with height, dont get me wrong. If Key Tower would have been lined with retail spaces, it would have been a huge difference. Maybe it can be reconfigured.

^^ HA! I was expecting an actual useful informational link! :D

I just think a redesign is basically impossible. Yes you can redesign the park, but the current buildings arent going anywhere, and they are the main issue! And I dont think there is anything wrong with asking a question. Our city has some serious problems. I dont want to pretend its all perfect and that Public Square is a great space, because its not, its a joke. Maybe I could have worded it better though. And I dont want to post it in the Public Square redesign thread, because its not a development!(Even though I wish there were some news)

f$&k the skyline! Ha!, the best areas of most cities are streets with NO skyscrapers! :-P And Stanley Block has a worse location and poor ownership which could have contributed to its demise. I would imagine these buildings being all in great shape, like East 4th and the Warehouse District!