natininja

I don't think Cleveland is a lost cause, but I think the city needs to do some soul searching to define what success means. If it means replicating its mid-20th century grandiosity, it is a lost cause.

The building is awesome, too. Wonder why they don't include a picture in the article. Oh, right, it's the Enquirer. Looking at Bryon Martin's Facebook page (the son of the father-son team wanting to open the micro-brewery), I can see he is a hardcore Cincinnati lover. e.g.: Bryon Martin March 30, 2011 Lets have a contest to see who can "like" this page the quickest...GO!!! Cincinnatians for the Streetcar The streetcar is under attack in Columbus. Now is the time to show our elected officials, both in Cincinnati and in Columbus that Cincinnatians understand the importance of the streetcar. The Cincinnati Enquirer has repeatedly attacked the streetcar, arguing that it is "undesired". Facts and histo... Page: 902 like this Also, check out his graphic at the top...amazing picture of Mt. Adams from the east, with the skyline poking over the top.

Any news on a daily Cardinal?

Huh. Sounds interesting! You should start a thread about it. Hmm. I didn't mean to come across that way. I was just thinking my puzzlement out loud.

It's working again now.

Thanks. This does not sound very encouraging. This will greatly limit where I can live in the neighborhood and that presents a problem for a project that I had in mind to serve the neighborhood. This sounds very cryptic. I find it weird you would specifically choose Price Hill for a project, unless it were related to some of the problems PH has...which would mean you wouldn't be gawking at the crime stats. Color me confused.

Anyone know why 3CDC's website is down?

The dream of the '90s is alive on Ludlow.

Uhh, sure it can. The design just has to be more urban and less suburban shopping mall. To clarify why the stop cannot be at the front door, shoppers taking the streetcar will exit the store with their groceries, and stand in front of the front door waiting for the streetcar, blocking the exit for other customers. This is especially important when fire exits are considered. The streetcar should stop some distance from the front door to make room for all the queueing. Really? I don't think he meant it literally right in front of the door more as near the entrance in a situation like John described. Right. All of a sudden the discussion changed to something other than whether it makes sense to have the streetcar going through the University Plaza site, which is what I thought we were talking about.

It's as though Mary Shelley's been reincarnated as a civil engineer.

Regardless of whether a streetcar should stop directly in front of the door (which is totally unnecessary on any account), it has nothing to do with whether the streetcar could peacefully coexist with a Kroger going through the University Plaza and connecting the two Vine Streets. It must be integrated with the site, yes. I don't see why those two things are included in the same paragraph, let alone the same sentence.

I hope it's a gay hookah bar.

Uhh, sure it can. The design just has to be more urban and less suburban shopping mall. To clarify why the stop cannot be at the front door, shoppers taking the streetcar will exit the store with their groceries, and stand in front of the front door waiting for the streetcar, blocking the exit for other customers. This is especially important when fire exits are considered. The streetcar should stop some distance from the front door to make room for all the queueing. By this reasoning, the streetcar shouldn't stop in front of any store at all. After all, there will be customers with bags waiting to get on, and other customers trying to leave the store.

^ I vote for using eminent domain.

At the dunnhumby site? Is that a sure thing? Uhh, sure it can. The design just has to be more urban and less suburban shopping mall.

Why does Kroger have control over the Short Vine situation? If I remember correctly, Marge Schott used to own University Plaza. Did Kroger get it after she died?

I don't get why murder is considered the bellwether of dangerousness. In Cincinnati, as in most places, you almost never get murdered if you are not knowingly cavorting with murderers and people in the drug trade, etc. The same is not true of getting jumped or being the victim of an armed robbery, which would be better danger indicators for the general public. BTW, we should all be thankful that Cincinnati has hardly any carjackings. Having the ability to drive through any neighborhood at any time of day or night and feel completely safe is not a luxury shared in all cities.

Sorry, I should have checked the map before I said that. But yeah I knew you couldn't just go from Wyoming to Lincoln Heights on the street network, so for all intents and purposes, they don't really border. Not only can you not go on the street network, but the Mill Creek is in the way as well as a bunch of industrial/railroad-related infrastructure. No one crosses that border, ever. Believe it or not, there is also a lower-income part of Wyoming near the Lockland border. It's not as abrupt a transition as you might imagine. One major reason municipal boundaries are different from neighborhood boundaries is the school district differential. Between Lockland and Wyoming, this is a very salient issue. If suddenly a couple blocks of Lockland were in the Wyoming school district, those blocks would clean up quickly. Obviously, there's no such difference between Gateway Q and NoLibs.

I said "about the same". They are not a difference in magnitude like land values are, and material costs are also pretty much the same.

^ Land values are much lower in Cincy than in Boston and SF, but construction costs are about the same. The building that gets constructed on a plot of land is in part a function of the value of the land. Thus you get lower quality buildings in Cincy.

I always expect to see Columbus completely rocking out on these things (in a relative sense). But apparently that's not exactly the case.

That didn't infer the Bearcats would win (again, NO ONE said they would), and it was in the UC thread which is a place where trash talk against another team should be considered pretty non-aggressive.

Who wants to bet the job gains in New York-Newark-Bridgeport were not in Newark?

Actually, looking back, all I see is douchebaggery from suckeyes in the Bearcats thread.

What made it sweet for me is everyone from down yonder thinking cincy was going to roll tOSU. Well that didn't happen...and we found out the bearcats are still irrelevant. Care to back that up? I don't see any such claims in this thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,3483.msg609080.html#msg609080