natininja

Some people want to take historic apartment buildings and "restore" them to single family homes. You know, in a tribute to that long forgotten piece of "history" that never actually happened. I bring that up because you're talking to such a person.

Alcohol is served, and it's not named Applebee's.

Sherman, nice photos. Do you happen to have a shot with the whole lager house in the frame?

But the Narrow Gauge Railroad was patriotic and the streetcar is communist. ;-)

I could see this working for Short Vine. I'm afraid im not very optimistic for NPotL.

With Dayton in the Cincy metro, it'd be #3.

yup, Streetcar will help bridge that. I could be wrong but I don't see too many workers around 4th st hopping on the streetcar to take it to the banks for lunch. I also don't see too many people wanting to pay money to ride the streetcar to/fro lunch, especially for shorter distances. I agree. Caps, please. With buildings on them. Buildings that extend over current lanes of traffic to the north and south.

I'm sure it would take off, given the right opportunity. It's definitely got what it takes. :)

^^ That example might not be auto-friendly, but it's not very ped-friendly, either. A poor illustration of whatever point you were trying to make.

Have you talked to OTR businesses about flying the flag? Or even hanging it on a wall inside? Maybe a shop (like Park + Vine) or vendor at Findlay Market would like to sell them.

ProkNo5, how much does it cost to have a full sized flag made?

I see Jesus peering out the top-right pane of the top window! Looking forward to photo updates.

^^^ It just seemed like you were saying someone is more at risk walking around because he is a young (poor) black man. To me, that is similar (not in its cruel intention but in its faulty inference) to saying someone is more likely to commit a crime because he is a young (poor) black man. Both are over-simplifications "backed" by statistics.

City Blights, you talk like merely being black makes you more likely to be a victim of a crime. That's the same line of thinking people use to say that, because someone is black, they are more likely to commit a crime. The reality is more about circumstances than causation by race. I'm white, but I would suspect a black guy of a similar class background (and appearing as such) would not be much more likely to be a crime victim while exhibiting the same behavior as me (say walking through a rough neighborhood at night). Maybe marginally so. I think there is some effect of fear of messing with a white person by some black/minority criminals, as police are more likely to press on with their investigation of a crime involving a white victim. There can also be an effect the other way, where the white person is an obvious outsider in a black/minority neighborhood so they may be a target, or there may be some racial animosity motivating an attack. I think these effects are very small, though, and they help to cancel each other out. I do admit I have felt a bit of security before when walking in areas where white men typically fear to tread, due to the feeling that teenagers hanging out on the street were 100x more dumbfounded by the sight of me in that location than they were thinking about harassing me in any way. My black counterpart probably wouldn't have this psychological impact.

I wish PR would just become the 51st state. It would do a lot to combat the argument about making English our official language. It would get rid of the misconceptions you guys are talking about as they relate to PRs and it would broaden people's ideas about who Americans are, which is good preparation for not only the future but also the present. Some people would find it that much harder to remain in denial about our country's identity and diversity.

I'm surprised to see Sittenfeld went along with this. It would have been interesting if voting had been along racial lines, but I'm glad that didn't happen. Other interesting votes are Winburn's and Smitherman's. The head of the NAACP voted against the endorsed position of the African American Chamber of Commerce, and the most right-wing councilman sided on the more fiscally reckless side against Qualls and Seelbach, two solidly liberal councilmembers.

^ Someone can't spell weissbier.

"Most urban cores"? Really? That's not even true of all the ones you cherry-picked. http://www.walkscore.com/OH/Cleveland/Downtown http://www.walkscore.com/OH/Cincinnati/Central_Business_District The cities we always talk about as models of urbanism are not average. Sometimes people seem to forget, but that really should go without saying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_by_population Find Cincinnati on this list (62) then work your way up the list asking yourself about average walkability.

Smitherman is torn between his roles as NAACP leader and COAST shill. Frankly, it's refreshing just to see him wear a shade of grey for once. Knowing him, he is probably just putting his feelers out to see if he will take too much flak from the NAACP if he goes with his Tea Party instincts.

I wouldn't call Cincinnati extremely auto-centric, compared to American cities in general. There are too many walkable neighborhoods, whereas many cities have hardly any. It speaks volumes that, despite all the hills and no rail system, Cincinnati is the most walkable major city in Ohio.

It's simply due to their strength in large numbers, dude. At least Cincinnatians come in second in terms of numbers and Cincinnatians take great pride in their city's history and development. Hell, the Cincinnati Streetcar thread has like 20 people viewing it (and are actually prone to engaging in conversation) at any given time. Columbusites come in third on here and to make matters worse, they tend (not specifically on this site but in general) to be pretty apathetic when it comes to city affairs or just the culture of the city in general. They tend to not realize what they have here. I wasn't around when Cincinnatians outnumbered Clevelanders, but was there a similar issue? Pretty often I see a thread title and think "oh, this will be interesting" ... and then I find out it's some parochially titled Cleveland thread.

In some cities there are spikes in crime in colder months which rival or surpass the summer spike. I believe it is due to the greater ease of concealing weapons when wearing layers. Fortunately, there doesn't seem to be a winter spike in Cincy.

More than gas prices, I think the streetcar debate has forced people to think seriously about what it would be like to have rail in the region. While they don't like the streetcar because they don't see it as convenient for their own use, they do see lightrail connecting the activity hubs they frequent as something they would use. Which, of course, is the prerequisite for not-boondoggles. The question is if they could support a real project, as opposed to an abstract one, once the toasters start spewing their venom. Kind of like how healthcare reform was really popular until the final (watered down) bill was cast as a radical Muslim socialist atheist death panel crime train choo choo boondoggle.

My god. If a punk rock bar opened up and people were making the same comments, would everyone think it was an offense to punkers? Or just maybe that punk isn't their scene? It's a country bar. No wonder a bunch of urbanists do not feel like they fit in. And, by golly, if that's something that jumped out at them while they were there, it should by all means go in their description/review.

Pet peeve: Clevelanders thinking UO is a Cleveland forum.