natininja

Reminds me of Jeff Foxworthy's "You might be from Ohio if..." and one of them was saying "Ohiuh". Who says that???

The media is what makes persuasion through logic and reason impossible. The facts are only there for those who seek them, and most people simply rely on their local paper to provide the facts for them. If the Enquirer, Dispatch, or Plain Dealer were my only source for information about 3C, I'd probably be against it, too!!! The fault does not lie with 3C advocates or All Aboard Ohio, or their message. The fault lies squarely with the papers for framing the issue in a biased manner, time and time again.

What is supposed to be the weird way Columbus people pronounce Olentangy/Scioto?

I have a theory. Someone upthread was saying they grew up in NJ (my bet is South Jersey, because this sounds more like a Philly thing than NYC) and says "wooder" for 'water'. If you take that (or a minor variation, without the 'r' at the end) as a pronunciation from the non-rhotic* (North) Eastern dialects, bring it into a rhotic dialect (say Appalachian, where "worsh" is a pronunciation of 'wash'), something like "wooder" might become "worter", another pronunciation I've heard from "worsh" speakers. So my theory is it comes from an interplay or evolution where a non-rhotic dialect became rhotic. *: non-rhotic and rhotic just refer to whether 'r' is pronounced without a vowel following it.

^ Are you just saying that so if there happens to be a low number you can be all "I told you so"? You often seem to predict unlikely doomsday scenarios to which no one else subscribes (see: streetcar).

^ My impression is it would cover the whole span, or the majority of it...hotels are pretty big, no? Not a good idea, though I don't know how you make a bridge worth owning without tax subsidies, leasing it to a railroad, or charging tolls (obviously not possible here). It's kind of a silly thing to buy, really. IMO, Newport should buy it, if possible. Newport businesses stand to benefit the most from its existence and continuation of current use. Something like this would be a good idea for Brent Spence, as nati streets mentioned.

^ Nothing wrong with those pics, but maybe you should've waited for the next page, to separate them from the "competition" above. ;-) "Tough act to follow," and all that. Thanks for the new shots, anyhow!

It's okay to admit your jealousy about going to the Justin Bieber concert.

If GAT looked like that from all angles, it would be a freaking awesome building. It just looks GREAT in that picture.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to come off so contradictory. I still think Ohio should go to war with PA over Pittsburgh. If we promise some of the southern suburban spoils to WV, we might even get them to ally with us.

^^^ What I don't get about that theory is that Pittsburgh seems pretty darn Midwestern to me. I think the truth is just that there are no real borders for regions. It's a gradual change, with pockets of the East in the Midwest, pockets of the Midwest in the East, etc. Cincinnati is a complete oddball under any classification. As an old city, it has a lot of East Coast influence (it was originally settled by New Jerseyans), but it's in the Midwest, at the border with the South. It basically pioneered the Midwest, and the majority of the Southern influence didn't come until Appalachians came for jobs in the mid-20th Century. It's even a stretch to call Cincinnati "Rust Belt". A lot of people have noted this impossibility of classification (notably Richard Longworth). It's like an island, or (as Gramarye put it) a foreign country. Even the local dialect (bringing this back on topic :lol:) shows this otherworldliness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_American_English#Cincinnati

^ Very, very, very good point!!!

Finneytown. Borders Wyoming, but culturally quite different. (Close guess, though!) Haha, I meant "pop" as opposed to "soda". People on here are always touting how Cleveland is more North Eastern than Midwestern, so I was wondering if you use the North Eastern "soda" or the Midwestern "pop". Sounds like it's "pop". I think with the spread of media/culture, though, many Midwesterners are becoming subconscious about using "pop" and switching. I don't know why NEerners get all up in arms about it, though. I believe both are derived from "soda pop". (And, technically, "pop" would be the noun part of "soda pop", right?)

I know someone from Cincinnati who says buried like it's spelled. He does it self-consciously, "because it's spelled that way". My experience with people from NYC area is they say "root". In fact I'm pretty sure that's universal there, in most uses of the word. I once had someone tell me they thought it was "hickish" when people use the "rowt" pronunciation. The thing is, every now and then, they switch it up. I haven't figured out if there is an actual pattern to it, but I think it's never for a compound expression like "route 66" or "alternate route". Coupon...I've always wondered about that. I think my parents say "cue-pon", but since I learned to read I've said "coo-pon". Do people in C-Town drink "pop"?

2009: 333,013 2010 should come out soon, as the official census results. I think this serves as a source for the 2009 estimate, but I can't look at a spreadsheet right now: http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-pop-chg.html

I think a demonstration in Columbus on inauguration day would be felicitous. It would receive the most attention.

All Ohio cities seem to really have an inferiority complex. Of course, the dimensions are different for each. Cleveland's is kind of new, as it tries to find itself in a post-industrial era. Columbus is trying to figure itself out, too, but more as a rising star. Cincinnati, well...Cincinnati is the Eeyore of cities. Tons of potential, but too afraid to make a go at it. "It'll never work; I'm just Cincinnati!" I kind of lean toward the idea that Columbus should change its name. Not only would it instantly shed its "Columbusohio" baggage, but it would be a good publicity stunt. Being a state capital, the change would even impact school curricula nationwide. If the change coincided with a viral marketing campaign announcing the change and showing the city as a young, vibrant, progressive rising star, it could change residents' and outsiders' perception of the city. Just don't make a name that sucks. Edit: I'd bet it would increase the city's appearances in crossword puzzles by over 9000 percent.

Winburn is a nut, but in this case I think he has a good idea.

Perhaps I should lay off those lunchtime martinis.

Lawdy, looks who's correcting my spelling. The Queen of the Keybored.

You're as bad as Ram23. I'm sure tedders55 doesn't want food poisoning! My MTS bate worked.

Tad's Steakhouse, Times Square.

Maybe bring him a copy of the City Charter.