Clevelander17

As an NCB/PNC customer, I thought that the transition went off without a hitch...unfortunately. I really wanted them to give me a reason to move my account elsewhere.

Pretty much saw it coming. He gave the program three good years, I'd love to see him do well at the next level (except against the Cavaliers ;)).

The OP may also find the CH police blotter helpful: http://blog.cleveland.com/sunpress/2010/04/several_cases_of_breaking_and.html Note that this may provide more accuracy than the fudged crime rates reported by the CHPD at the end of the year.

:laugh: I knocked the thread off track? Thanks for the laugh. You guys are ridiculous. Dog forbid anyone give a balanced view of the area instead of pretending everything is perfect in the Heights.

Yes, because of her situation, she'll be shielded from some of that, too. But not all of it. The fun begins when she has friends over and has to call the Nanny to make sure it's okay if they park on the street overnight. Or when she's late for work, going a few miles over the speed limit, and the Nanny wags an angry finger at her. The Nanny is always there to make sure she's behaving within set community standards. Now if she wants to walk in the streets, or roll around residential neighborhoods at 3am with music blaring, or walk around in a large group intimidating local business patrons, the Nanny seems to be okay with this.

Dreamz, you can probably figure out by now how Htsguy was referring to ;) And you will find a lot of Clevelanders that will agree with that forumer. Most of them will likely be from the outer-ring suburbs, though, and not actually live in Cleveland Hts. It's all subjective so you should assign weight to everyone's opinion as you see fit and the feeling you get from exploring these neighborhoods. In other words, challenging UO groupthink is highly frowned upon. :clap: It's funny though, my comments above were relatively mild, 100% truthful, and even somewhat complimentary, yet I'm still scolded by the CH city head cheerleader. And my comments are of someone that lives in a neighboring suburb, not in some far off exurb. I'm not in the minority, either. Talk to people beyond UO to learn about all sides of the city, not just the Utopian idea that many here would like to paint. Cleveland Heights is a fine city with a lot of things going for it, but the city has big problems. Luckily, as a young renter living in the western part of the city, you'll be shielded from some of these problems, but you're still going to have to deal with the big bureaucracy of the Cleveland Heights government.

I got one of these from East Cleveland a few months back, mailed from some company in Rhode Island or Connecticut. Of course I didn't pay it, they have no legal recourse to collect. Pathetic attempt by a declining city to line the pockets of its unnecessary politicians.

Oh, I forgot to add that Cedar-Fairmount is perfectly fine. That's basically the the western edge of the nicest part of CH.

The Coventry area of Cleveland Height is relatively safe, just stay south of Mayfield. And despite what others have said, there are indeed quite a few vagrants/homeless people wandering around, though they're mostly on the main street (Coventry itself). Also, it's an exaggeration to say that there is a cop on every corner in CH. While the shopping districts have a police presence, in many cases they're there to write parking tickets, so don't be surprised if they've got their head buried in a notebook. One last thought, there is no overnight street parking in Cleveland Heights, which is ridiculous considering the demographics/housing situation of the city, especially the heavy renter western part of the city. If Lakewood can allow overnight parking in most parts of the city, there's no reason why CH can't. But of course it gives them more ticket-writing possibilities and more revenue for a city that is losing population every year.

Carmona needs to reign in that control, but if he can become a consistent #2, the rotation looks a lot better. Also good to see Perez shut the door as the Tribe's "closer." I'm still delusional enough to believe that they can compete in the AL Central. :)

Since we somewhat unfairly knocked the CH potential home buyer thread off topic, I thought it would be nice if there were a thread dedicated to the issues of the eastern suburban Heights area of Cleveland, including of course Cleveland Heights, Shaker Heights, University Heights, and also at times South Euclid and Beachwood. So I'll start us off. Good news: Melt is slated to open up in late May. Bad news: Traffic in that area is going to become an even bigger hazard when that happens. It's already troublesome with Pizza Bogo's success, however it's going to get much worse with Melt. Parking will be an issue, too. What can CH do to alleviate that? Widening the street and adding a left-turning lane would help tremendously, but it would be long and costly process. However I think if they put the no left turn light on for extended periods of the day/night, it may help a bit. Thoughts? Any other things of note/concern going on in the area?

Finally able to watch a few of these videos and I would love to see Cleveland implement some of the ideas. What the heck do we have to lose at this point? The city doesn't need to be operating golf courses (outside of city limits, mind you) and probably doesn't need to be running the Westside Market. There are probably dozens of other examples of the City of Cleveland trying to operate businesses that the private sector could do much better. I wouldn't support the privatization of basic services like public safety or road maintenance, but I think just about everything else should be on the table. If the city's having budget issues, or if taxes are too high, privatization of just half of what the city currently does could solve those problems and make Cleveland more business-friendly.

I look at the roster and I see no reason why they can't compete in the consistently weak AL Central. That said, it's Opening Day and I think fans of about 25 of the league's 30 teams are optimistic about their chances today! :) GO TRIBE!

I could be wrong, but I think I read that most Ivy League schools have gotten to the point where if your parents don't make a certain amount of money, the school picks up the bill.

Assuming, of course, that one believes CH's self-reported crime stats are accurate. This will probably be my last post on this thread. It should come as no surprise to anyone that the overwhelming majority of opinion on this website is that Cleveland Heights is a great place to live. UrbanOhio is an awesome website, but there is a definitely a bit of groupthink that skews towards urban areas (go figure ;)) like CH. That's fine, but Cleveland Heights is losing population at a rate that rivals the City of Cleveland, and is several times the population loss of the region as a whole. What's clear is that people are voting with their feet, and the middle class is simply no longer finding CH's great inherent benefits worth its growing costs.

Great, that just shows that the part of CH that the OP is interested in is less safe than almost every other part of the city. And that's even with the CH's fudged self-reported crime stats.

My point exactly, and EC has spilled over into CH there. TWO police stations? Wow! CH police are too busy writing speeding tickets to fight any crime. A group of thugs will have committed a crime and scurried back to EC before the police can put the radar gun and donut down. Um, if you read a few posts back, I said that there was a nice area just north of Mayfield around Inglewood Rd. There are also some decent areas around the stone streets. That doesn't change the fact that, however, go a few blocks north or west and you're in the middle of a very dumpy, very sketch area. I know that's your 'hood, and I know that you'll defend it until you're blue in the face, but I think it's very disingenuous to sell that as a great area to an unknowing potential home buyer. That part of the city is only going downhill in the coming decades, so not only are the streets potholed, taxes high, schools mediocre (especially in that part of the district), and safety a question right now, but also anyone buying a home is going to lose money in the short term and long term. It's just not worth it. You don't even have easy access to good private schools there! All the good ones are further south and even the parish schools in northern Cleveland Heights/South Euclid have closed! :cry:

Alright, my attempt to post a link to the Census data failed. You can see a nice map of the city and demographic information if you know how to find it... :whip:

I'm saying to the OP that parts of that area is crummy, and getting worse. It's not about black or white, though it's true that in this case most of the people there that show no pride in their neighborhood or schools happen to be black. Both of those areas are mostly white, but by no means all-white. There are certainly areas of the St. Ann's neighborhood that are upscale, especially as one gets closer to Fairmount. But closer to Cedar, it is more middle class. Yes, the city itself, as a whole, is racially diverse. However as you have pointed out, it is also segregated, which can be problematic. Hey, someone has to pay for all of the derelicts living within the City of Cleveland proper!

By the way, this must be a joke. Cleveland Heights has some of the worst roads of any eastern suburb. Taylor Rd. is one big pothole from start to finish.

I thought diversity was valued in the Heights? If a neighborhood is 95% or more black or white, I'd hardly call that "diverse." Bullsh!t, Mr. Sharpton?

Ive been waiting for someone to note that data point. Obviously, someone wanted to use another thread in the forum (not the NMSF thread) to spread fear, a negative perception with a sprinkle of racism. Playing the race card is always easier than acknowledging reality. :mrgreen:

Anything north of Mayfield along Noble is pretty dumpy, but go north of Monticello and you may as well be in East Cleveland. In regards to the OP's neighborhood, it's a little better, but I, personally, wouldn't want to live there. At least that area has some diversity still (read: it hasn't become all African-American yet), but you better be open-minded, patient, and understanding if you buy a home there. The only middle class areas of CH that I'd consider would be the Canterbury neighborhood and St. Ann's neighborhood.

I agree with this. There is a quiet neighborhood roughly between Forest Hills Blvd. and Lee Rd. that I've always found to be nice (Burlington/Rumson area). Additionally the Inglewood district just east of Taylor Rd. is also very attractive. Also one of the few cities in the state its size to have its own "traffic enforcement bureau" (or profit generation bureau). In reality, a large percentage of the police force has one duty, and that is to write parking and/or speeding tickets. They're generally not out there fighting crime. I find it ridiculous that you would imply that the real issues I presented about safety in Cleveland Heights is some sort of a joke. If someone is interested in buying a home in the area, they deserve to know about the good and the bad. There are definitely parts of Cleveland Heights that should be avoided, and the north Noble area is one of them. You'd have to be :drunk: to even think about walking about there at in the middle of the night.

It's hit or miss on neighborhoods in CH in my opinion.