Clevelander17

Fair enough! When I was attending the CH-UH schools, it seemed like many of my teachers were living way out in the exurbs. When was this? Roughly the late 80s through the late 90s.

Fair enough! When I was attending the CH-UH schools, it seemed like many of my teachers were living way out in the exurbs.

Great incite, I agree! Do you live in CH?

Cleveland Heights is a very nice or people wouldn't live there. They don't move there to pay high taxes for no reason. Its a nice place to start a family, and enjoy the 'burbs with areas that offer an urban experience like Coventry, Cedar-Lee and Cedar-Fairmont. Ignoring the fact that the city is hemorrhaging people. The last Census numbers hurt, and the next one is going to be brutal. Low 40s with clear evidence that middle class families are leaving in droves.

Couldn't agree more. I wonder what "people living in the city, the people moving in, and the people running it," he is referring to? How can you make a statement like that when you, yourself, state you know nothing about the schools?? I have cousins, on both sides of my family that graduate from CHUH school district and now their children attend CHUH schools. Several are in an income bracket where they can comfortably afford to send their children to private school but chose not to. Gang violence? Humm. Violence at the High School level can happen around any school. Especially when (male) sports are involved. Hell we had robberies left, right and center at Shaker! I'm not saying their hasn't been any violence, but name a school that hasn't had any. As I stated, earlier, in another thread, the students and parents get as much out of the schools as they put in. I'm talking about the ghetto/prison culture that has been moving into Cleveland Heights for a few decades now and has taken over many city neighborhoods. As for Shaker Heights, I'm not shocked about your comments, because it's happening there, too, though at a slower pace. :laugh: Translation: people of color. ::) Thugs have not taken over many neighborhoods. Do you live or work in CH? SH? Where do you live? Most of them are black, yes, but that's not the issue. I live in University Heights and spend ample time in all three cities.

Really? You'd walk around North Noble at three at night? Any area bordering East Cleveland south through Mayfield Rd. is sketchy. I would never risk it, but you and I clearly see things differently. Like I said, different strokes for different folks. I used to feel that way, but now I'm looking to move eastward.

Couldn't agree more. I wonder what "people living in the city, the people moving in, and the people running it," he is referring to? How can you make a statement like that when you, yourself, state you know nothing about the schools?? I have cousins, on both sides of my family that graduate from CHUH school district and now their children attend CHUH schools. Several are in an income bracket where they can comfortably afford to send their children to private school but chose not to. Gang violence? Humm. Violence at the High School level can happen around any school. Especially when (male) sports are involved. Hell we had robberies left, right and center at Shaker! I'm not saying their hasn't been any violence, but name a school that hasn't had any. As I stated, earlier, in another thread, the students and parents get as much out of the schools as they put in. I'm talking about the ghetto/prison culture that has been moving into Cleveland Heights for a few decades now and has taken over many city neighborhoods. As for Shaker Heights, I'm not shocked about your comments, because it's happening there, too, though at a slower pace. :laugh:

Schools are average (at best), taxes are high (and probably never coming down), safety is questionable in large chunks of the city, and the local government is extremely liberal, somewhat incompetent and full of career politicians who are too comfortable in their positions to see the real problems the city is facing. Cleveland Heights was once a great city, and a lot of the things that made it great--including access to Cleveland, its beautiful archictecture, and great parks--still exist. However the people living in the city, the people moving in, and the people running it, have made a big mess of things. I'm curious as to what attracted you to the city in the first place? Different things appeal to different people, but from my point of view, I wouldn't consider buying in CH, but that's just me. A lot of people like the city and are fine with things the way they are, and I respect that, so maybe you might feel that way, too.

USNews used to have a matriculation rate ranking (as part of their college rankings issue). I can't find it right now, but schools like Harvard and Yale were at the top, but so were Army and Navy, and even a few seemingly odd ones, like BYU.

It is a bit considering how much the demographics have changed. NMSFs are born, not taught. Birth plays some role. I doubt it's the dominant one, though. Upbringing has to mean something. I'm sure that a clone of me would have had a lot more trouble winning the award if my parents had broken up or been killed by ninjas when I was young. You're right, I should have clarified. What I meant to say was that being born into the right type of family goes a long way, too. Nurture plays a role, but the most important aspect is what goes on in the home, not the school. The number of NMSFs is a credit to the type of students/families that Shaker Heights still somehow manages to attract, not really a credit to the quality of the schools themselves.

Truck Bryant is out for the Mountaineers, but I still think they're going to beat the Blue Devils and probably win it all. The Final Four is very weird this year, IMO Duke is the worst of the #1 seeds and they're the only one still playing.

It is a bit considering how much the demographics have changed. NMSFs are born, not taught. Well it look like you got part of that statement correct! Eh, I got about 80% of it correct. You sound like a bitter angry person who's upset that he wasn't capable of earning an award. Jealousy is an ugly ensemble....you wear it well. Wow, you surmised all of that based on two posts? The stories are true!

:roll: Another time and place, perhaps. 8-)

It is a bit considering how much the demographics have changed. NMSFs are born, not taught. Well it look like you got part of that statement correct! Eh, I got about 80% of it correct.

Great pictures! I was at game 5 of the '95 World Series, there was nothing like it. Hopefully we can recapture some of this magic later in the spring with a Cavaliers playoff run (and title!).

It is a bit considering how much the demographics have changed. NMSFs are born, not taught.

Then we're doomed. I'll call U-Haul and see if they have enough trucks to get us all out of here. From: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/incometaxandtheirs/a/nostatetax.htm It is worth noting that during 2006 and 2007, the seven states with no income tax whatsoever, Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming, led the nation in net population growth. No matter what you're opinion, we should all be able to agree that the entire tax system is a mess. Alaska, Florida, Nevada and Texas...I bet you I could give a big reason for each why each of those states is able to get away without having an income tax. They've got things--gambling, oil, tourism, etc. that we don't that let them get away with it. I'd love to think that one day we'll be able to leverage our water to the same effect, but perhaps that's not realistic, at least not anytime soon.

That's gorgeous. What all does it offer?

Then we're doomed. I'll call U-Haul and see if they have enough trucks to get us all out of here.

The point is that neither of you are going to vote for Kasich under any circumstance anyways, so I think it's disingenuous to make up some silly rationale for it.

If it's a Democrat, it's an "idea," if it's a Republican, it's a "talking point." Or vice versa. Goodness people need to think outside the box in this country. :roll:

I just think there might be some interesting stuff there. I drive around eastern Cuyahoga County for my job quite frequently, but I've never really roamed around that part of Lake County, I'm looking to see a different part of our area and I can get there in 20 minutes or so. I'd also like to explore the historic/scenic areas of Medina and Lorain counties one day, but that's on the other side of town.

I think East Cleveland should merge with Cleveland, but it would have to be approved by both sides, because it wouldn't be an annexation. East Cleveland is incorporated (obviously), so it may not be so simple. And the school district situation is a completely different animal.

Last night's game was a barn-burner, one player even lost his monocle, but I'm glad to report that the team made it back to Oxford in time for tea and biscuits. :laugh:

It's been a few months since it happened so I'm surprised we don't have any talk about UD's purchase of NCR headquarters. Is there another place where it's been discussed?