Clevelander17

Thanks. I knew of Kirk growing up (we played them in baseball), but I couldn't actually recall seeing the building. It's a shame that there wasn't any push to renovate it, though I unfortunately I can see why the community may not care too much. Same goes for Shaw: it was a much more impressive building from what I remember before it was renovated.

My thinking is, there's not really much in that area worth salvaging now. There may be a few somewhat maintained properties, but it's like the properties themselves are inherently special for any reason. That's why I would advocate getting rid of the vast majority of the structures and just starting over.

I agree. The housing stock is not in the best and is not in great shape either. I think either new $300,000 single family homes, townhouses, and/or a mix of apartments and condos would do amazing there. Not only would it pump money into both cities, it would add a new life to Cleveland Heights and East Cleveland and would increase activity in Coventry and along Mayfield. Both cities could use new construction housing projects and this is the perfect location. And it would be addition by subtraction in other ways, particularly for Cleveland Heights.

I hate to say it, but every time I drive near or through the Superior Triangle, I become more firmly entrenched in the camp that would love to see 95% of it demolished and re-developed. I have to believe that with its location not too far up Mayfield Road from University Circle, and the thriving Coventry retail district directly to the south, that it could be a prime location for multi-use development of retail, condos, etc.

What was the Kirk Middle School "controversy"?

Masty already knocked around a bit today...but Yan Gomes really is a beast and just as I was typing this ties it up with a 2-run blast.

First off, you're right, he wasn't "yelling" as far as I've heard. However, the guy who took the picture (who runs the "Cleveland Frowns" website) was on 92.3 The Fan yesterday and said that the conversation wasn't conciliatory even if a handshake was attempted. Second, the logo is much more inflammatory than the team name and bringing up the latter is distracting from the larger problem that is the former. (And yes, those that are asking for the removal of Chief Wahoo and a name change are guilty of overreaching IMO.) Finally, although I see superficial similarities between a leprechaun and Chief Wahoo, I think it's a questionable analogy considering the history behind each and the respective cultures that they represent. Oh and "white guilt"? Yes, we do have something we were guilty of...so why are we holding on to a relic created during a time period in which we were unable to accept that. If the character "Sambo" and painting ourselves in black face are considered insensitive, I'm not sure how Chief Wahoo and red face are much different.

So in off-the-field news, what does everyone think of this renewed Chief Wahoo controversy? There is a picture floating around the interwebs of a guy in full "red face" yelling at a Native American protestor outside of Jacobs Field yesterday and it's kind of embarrassing. My personal opinion is that while there is some tradition behind Chief Wahoo, he is an extraordinarily racist caricature that, at the very least is due for a serious redesign. That said, I much prefer the "Block C" because the club wore it on their first uniforms back in 1901, wore a version of it in 1920 when they won their first World Series in 1920, and because it directly represents our city's name (like New York's interlocking "NY" or Detroit's Old English "D"). Just my take.

But they're not. If you tell somebody to look something up on their phones, you're the bad guy. I'm amazed by people's inability to discern a credible internet source from one planted by, say, the Mormon church. I work with internet-illiterate blue collar guys. They come to my desk with an issue and I'll be, say, looking at Urban Ohio instead of working. Their eyes are attracted to the banner ads and think that you're "supposed" to click on them. They think some scam banner ad with Obama's face on it is a direct message from Obama. What was hilarious was that at the last place I worked, the owner was about 70 and didn't know what the internet looked like or was. I could sit there on Facebook all day and he'd walk by my desk, convinced I was "working" on "the computer". He's the one who's 50 year-old girlfriend worked in the office, accompanied at all times by a squirrel that spent the day nestled in her cleavage. The thing would poke its head out while she was talking to clients. This is more of a generational thing I think. Unfortunately it's going to be quite difficult to re-educate those that did not grow up with the internet. However I was referring more towards how we should perhaps be realigning how social studies and science are taught to kids in primary and secondary school, particularly how we treat access to information. Memorization of facts may not be the best use of time in the modern world.

We live in an age where knowing how to find information is perhaps more important than memorizing it. I think this changes the way that many disciplines such as social studies, science, and aspects of language arts should be taught/learned.

BW3 = Buffalo Wild Wings. However, I'm not sure they ever had a location on Coventry. There used to be another wing place in the spot you're describing, but I can't remember what it was called.

What a great run and no shame in how it ended. UD will lose Oliver and Kavanaugh, but I like their chances to make some noise again next year with Pierre and Sibert returning. As long as Miller sticks around, this program will be competitive and fun to watch. It's been a long time coming.

I'm cautiously optimistic about BW3s in that area, but that signage--particularly the colors--just seems really out of place.

Very interesting discussion here. I'm starting to tilt more strongly in the direction of believing that there's a better way to fund stadium maintenance/improvements than the Sin Tax.

Right, it's very similar to why our alma mater won't agree to a series with Wright State.

Well, Ohio State is the big badass of the state, though. One loss (to my alma mater ;) ) doesn't change that.

Hilarious irony. UD Arena will be full of fans eager to root against Xavier.

Hopefully these new Frontier flights do well and the airline considers making CLE an eastern focus city. They run just about everything through Denver our west, but their eastern presence is limited and perhaps they're looking to expand?

A few random thoughts: -High school periods are 15 minutes, not 20, so they did indeed play 101 minutes. -Basking played hockey for Heights back in the 1980s. -I hate shootouts, a better way of deciding a winner IMO might have been to take players off of the ice after each OT period until getting down to 3-on-3 and letting them play like that until someone scores.

another advertorial created by or for real estate enterprises. you always dismiss these lists as "advertorials" created for such-and-such business interests (and in many cases that's seems to be true), but if the statistics they cite are accurate, how does that invalidate their conclusions? I won't claim that they're created for real estate purposes (though I do think that these "studies" are created in part to attract eyeballs), however there are serious inconsistencies with the statistics that they cite. As I noted above, the definition of what constitutes a "city" varies and the definitions of certain crimes also varies. The way to fix this is to compare urban or metropolitan areas against one another and to make sure that cities are reporting crime statistics accurately and uniformly. The first step would be somewhat easy-ish to do; the second not so much.

The problem with the "most dangerous cities" ranking this year (besides the annual concern that it compares cities that are just cores versus those that incorporate suburban areas) is that the definition of rape was expanded, but cities were not forced to change how they counted this crime. So the crime of rape meant different things to different cities.

Some of those "cities" are in my opinion, essentially suburbs that could not exist in a bubble. Also 25,000-350,000 is a huge range and means that they're really comparing des pommes avec des oranges.

There's no need to be shy about saying it. Another thought is that schools like Alabama are starting to play games with Meyer in targeting OSU's midwestern recruits so that he has to spend more time and resources on defending Northern turf rather than going after top Southern players like he wants to do.

That's exactly what it is and the government is basically endorsing it. Capitalism doesn't really work when you have minimal competition, like what's happened to the airline industry. But this isn't happening in a vacuum; these airlines are shrewdly buying politicians to change the rules for them.

I want CLE to become a Southwest focus city...or heck, if an airline like Frontier were looking to expand more into the Midwest, I know that their only focus cities are in Colorado, Delaware, and New Jersey. I flew them last summer and had a nice experience. As far as the legacy carriers are concerned, IMO they can pound salt. Their monopoly on the industry thanks to deregulation has done nothing to improve air travel.