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I believe Paycor also owns their current HQ building too. Probably would not want to give that up.

Jake - Raising the field and designing it to soccer specifics does not fix the issue. the issue for MLS is being able to tap into the stadium revenue that ownership or control of the facility provides. Also being the primary tenant too. At Nippert, FC Cincy will never be the primary tenant. That is the concern for MLS

Jake, Nippert is the ideal location for Cincinnati, but not for MLS standards. SO something has to live.

I hope you're right, but I don't think MLS is going to share our love of transit and historic preservation. Look at Mapfre in Columbus on google earth. The amount of parking surrounding that is ridiculous. Mapre was built in the late 90s on fairgrounds parking and part of the fair complex. it was essentially wasted space in Columbus and not too far from where they were playing already. Interstate access was probably a concern for them but parking was an afterthought because they had all this unused land sitting there waiting for development. Mapre came at the right time for that. Not many cities have such large swaths of surface parking available though. ALso, when Mapre was built, It was a different era and league then. Mapre reminds me of Dolphins stadium in Miami. It is in a field with nothing nearby to walk too. The league has said it sees the benefit integrating itself with the city. So I think the league would care about those issues now.

Thee is the music hall garages in place already. You could build new garage or so across the street, plus there looks like there are fields for parking there. You could extend the streetcar or build light rail to help wth the crowd. Parking should not be a major concern.

If Nippert proves not to be a viable option for the long term in order to get an MLS team, where should a new stadium go?

^ I agree that Nippert would be the preferable venue because infrastructure is already in place and it is a good historic venue that serves the needs well without a huge capital outlay. That being said, if we need to get a new venue to earn an MLS team, then so be it, and If that is the case, there is really no better area in the city than behind district 1. Heck the police presence would already be there to help game day traffic

Spinney Field? I like the idea but there might not be enough room. This whole situation is ridiculous. Building a new stadium for this team (private or public) is a complete waste and everyone knows it. Many college football teams play in bizarre old stadiums with bleacher seats and grad student offices or even dorms under the grandstands, but Nippert Stadium is a better stadium than most. Look at the dozen or so college football stadiums that hold close to or over 100,000 people -- they're all less than ideal, but the huge crowds keep coming, generation after generation. Jake - It would be a waste if it is only used 10-12 times a year like PBS. I don't think people find GABP a waste. So how do you justify the cost of a 200 million stadium that seats about 25-30k ? That is why this site would work well. You have a state of the art soccer facility, but you can also add 10-12 weeks of HS FB for the city schools there. A 20-30k Stadium is much better to use than PBS for these events. On top of that, you can have playoff games there too. It would also have a few outdoor concerts a year and you can maybe come up with other events that would nto be appropriate for PBS because of the size and costs. Now you have a venue in use for 60-70 dates a year and it is a bit more justifiable.

I was thinking about where a good spot for a stadium and I keep coming back to the public school stadium they have behind district 1. The land is there and additional could be acquired quickly. The city or school board owns the land for the stadium which would make it easy to construct. They should be for this idea because there could be a provision to allow the local HS to continue using that new facility rent free on Friday's and many Saturdays in the fall (which wont conflict with soccer games) and gives the stadium additional use. IT would be a great location for the team because it would connect it to OTR and help develop other areas of the West End easily. you would have the parking garage and some infrastructure from Music Hall nearby. Washington Park is a 3 minute walk from there, and for the most part, there is already good highway access. It would make it easy to go to the OTR bars and reatrauants after the games too and provide a nice addition to the urban fabric.

If you think Ann Arbor is a nice lady, then you don't know Ann Arbor

What a perfect thing for that building. It will be a lot like the Netherland Plaza in Cincy just without the history. But what a great location for this project.

^Youngstown is a perfect example of this. When manufacturing dries up and the economy changes, people will migrate to where the jobs are. Look at why these towns developed in the first place. Most of them were factory towns that grew from there. They centered primarily around one or 2 key employers that ran the town. Look at Battle Creek MI, Hershey PA, even Hamilton, OH. People move to areas where the jobs are concentrated, in this case it is the cities. Some cities that are diversified will do well, others will grow and shrink when their industries mature and the labor is no longer in as much demand. heck, a few generations from now, Silicon Valley may be the next Youngstown if the tech industry matures past the need for their large labor force.

There was a term where Peper and Portune were there the same time. I think Pepper was only there 2 years because stepped down to run for state office.

^ I don't think you run Sittenfeld and expose him to a loss on a big stage yet. He will probably run for State level office in 2018 when Kasich is term limited. It will give him better name recognition if he wins at that point to go on to bigger things.

^ Ideally, you can get a park on city sewer which makes it really easy. That is always the biggest risk for the trailer park though. The other great thing if you do own the trailer is that they are easy to fix when you turn it over. Labor is much easier than apartments from what I hear.

^ I had that revelation in college too. Of course I thought the ones who owed all the big complexes had all the money. In reality, it is the guys that owe the college property and trailer parks that really make the bank. I was speaking to a trailer park guy the other day and discussing his business model and that is where some great returns are made.

People will take what they want from the forum. I would hope that if they are working on a campaign they would be intelligent enough to know what information is confidential and what is not and if they still want to leak it, there is nothing wrong with it, they can answer for themselves.

^ I don't have many realtor relationships in the area. If you talk to a commercial broker and let him know what you are looking for, and he knows you are credible, then he will start sending stuff to you. Start by talking to a commercial specialist from Howard Hanna or Keller Williams. Go on LoopNet and contact brokers about property they have listed and see what pocket listings they may have too.

I kind of think that if there were some obvious work-around to buy homes (to essentially turn everything into a FSBO), that it would have happened by now, internet or no internet. The web is 20 years old at this point, and I don't know that it or the cable shows have made the public any more astute in the purchase or listing of homes. There are discount brokers there that charge a flat fee for their listings. THey will charge like $2500 to sell your house. It is nice but the traditional brokers often do not buy in and steer their clients away from those. I do not think you can put the broker out of business because they provide a valuable service on both ends. Even on the commercial side, they are invaluable for us in finding deals. Most of the properties we buy are through pocket listings which never hit the market. We often sell that way too. Having good relationships with brokers is very helpful because they know the people who are thinking about selling and are able to put the deal together before it would turn into a bidding war.

I thought it was just a TV thing but I have been able to see first hand that the majority of Stanford grads are wide eyed know nothings with very little business acumen and common sense. They think the can change the world and it matters little that the actually understand their market in doing so.

I don't live in the city so I don't get a vote. If a campaign wants to use a strategy or idea I might post, good for them. I don't even need the credit. If a campaign person leaks ideas, that is their own issue. If you are working on a campaign and want to keep "strategic" ideas about your candidate from getting out, then manage your own house better. Don't shame people on an open forum.

^ I remember being on a ski trip where I ran into a young Stanford graduate in the lobby of the lodge. He was telling me how he runs a $2 million tech company that he is going to sell to Zillow in 5 years for $100 million. I asked him what he was doing, and he said he wanted to take the haggling out of real estate transactions and offer a fixed price because it is easier and more fair than negotiating. He said he got the idea for the project from a business professor who mentioned making the real estate market more efficient. I asked how his revenue model was going to work, and he said he was still trying to figure that out so I asked him how he came about a $2 million valuation for his company. He said that he and his partners were Stanford graduates and was told that that was the value of the collective brainpower of them as a group. I chuckled because his idea was going to be a complete bomb and complete hubris on Stanford grads to think that if they think of an idea, no matter how impractical, it will be a million dollar idea because it came from a Stanford grad.

Simpson can easily win if she gets the turnout. In the last race, Cranley's strength was the black community and the conservative areas of the city. That is part of the reason why he beat Qualls.

There may be something to this for him. The real estate market is very inefficient, that is part of the reason why people can do so well in this market is that the recognize the inefficiency and are able to exploit it. residential real estate is especially this way. You can price better efficiency into commercial because it trades on cap rates, etc. however, single family investment property is hard to gain the same efficiency of the stock market because each property no two houses are the same.

^Orange Leafs are fad stores. They pop up and have a staying power for 3-5 years at most. Like Coldstone Creamerys or back in the day, the Discovery Zone play places. There are a lot of fad places like that which die out after a few years. I was shocked the one at the Banks lasted as long as it did. It was never the right location for that type of business and I think as pointed out above, the fad is ending.