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I think that is part of it (because it is what is most affordable) but I do not think that paints a complete picture or even 1/2 the picture. I live in the burbs. My wife and I used to live in the city. We loved it. We would walk to restuarants, the gym, all over. It was great. We had amenities at our doorstep. We had a nice balcony with a good view from our apartment. We loved living in the city at that point in our life. But... then we had kids, and our city apartment was not quite so ideal. There was no yard for them to run around. We had shared walls and neighbors that were not ideal for kids. We were on the 4th floor ouf our building. There was no outdoor yard for them to play in unless we walked a few blocks. It just was not a great fit for raising our kids (I know that there are a lot of people in NYC and Chicago who make it work, but we were not in those areas and had other options). We have friends who make it work in the city, but it just did not match what we wanted for our kids. We made the sacrifice and moved to the burbs and got a house with a yard. While we still miss the city (somewhat), we adjusted to life in the burbs. It was a lifestyle choice with the kids. Allowing them space to run around outside and have a yard is what we wanted, because we were used to that to your "Default" point, and as we grew older, our needs changed somewhat. One of the interesting things I have been seeing in the burbs though is more of a desire to create neighborhoods and walkable communities. I do not think the burbs are going to go away anytime soon, but they, are evolving into more mini towns and cities outside of the larger city. Even in the burbs, neighborhood districts and walkability are coming in vogue. You see the burbs transforming on their own to meet demand for what today's owners want. Looking at Cincinnati, you have neighborhoods like Montgomery that are developing new walkable districts and developments to foster walkability in the neighborhood. The city of Mason is working on its own to do a zoning change from single family to multi-family/mixed use in their downtown to foster more of a neighborhood district and walkability. People pay premiums to live in these places because it offers the best of both worlds, the space of the burbs but a feeling of a small city area with urban amenities. You see this in Grandview and I have seen some areas of Cleveland like this too. I almost think of this as more of an attempt to create modern neighborhoods like Chagrin Falls and move away from the mass development concepts that perpetuated in areas like Mentor in the 70s and 80s. I think it does not have to be a battle over urban/suburban but what we are going to see is more of a suburban evolution creating mini urban districts or neighborhoods in a suburban settings that will be the trend of the next 20 years.

Wow!! need to do this next week too

It also should be noted that Chabot is 68 right now. I assume he runs and wins in 2022 because of the favorable map, but how many competitive races does he have left? I cant see him sticking around much beyond 2024 anyway. Look at all the older members of Congress in their 70s and 80s from both parties, How many of them actually have to run in competitive races? Probably very few would be my guess. They have essentially become fatcat country club congressmen at that point and just rely on their name recognition to win. My bet is that when things turn for Chabot and it looks as if he is in another slugfest, he decides to step down at that point. The seat may flip at that time, but he does not go out on a loss.

that makes sense, with the road configuration, it is hard to do that without supports in the middle of the highway lanes.

Has there been a revised cost of putting the cover over FWW? I thought I saw it would cost like $20 million total but that was a long time ago. .

how many more games are left, how many points do you think it will take to earn a bid?

I thought I saw that infrastructure bill dollars could fund these projects.

The perfect spot for it would be along the Licking where Ovation is going up. It is not on the main river and offers a good spot for a Marina and some high rise apartment/condos.

https://www.startribune.com/schafer-st-paul-rent-control-vote-turns-builders-bankers-away-from-capital-city/600116243/

The Free Willie syndrome that has developed distorts reality. Yes, there is an activist class out there that somehow feels these animals are mistreated solely because they give rides to people. No amount of evidence to the contrary will change their opinion and they will continue to beat their drums as long as ever until they get their way. They are welcome to their opinions and if they want to create change, they can work with the market to do so. You act as if it is such an inhumane thing that only "moral" cough cough people who truly understand the plight of these animals need to stop it by fiat, because the market will never allow that to happen. In your opinion (as well as a few others) you feel these animals are abused and the actions must stop immediately. There really is no other opinion that matters in this case. I say the market does handle this and does so quite efficiently. There is plenty of room for people who share your opinion to speak and potentially educate and sway people to your line of thinking. After a while, the market will simply go away because no one really wants to ride carriages anymore, or with time, people's interests change and they quit paying for carriage rides. Either way, market influences of some sort cause the industry to die out and you do not need people like Seelbach to make decisions on behalf of others when it really is not his business.

isn't that up to the individual rider to decide if it is a worthwhile experience. It is not Chris's decision to make for them. That is a bit hyperbolic. A traumatized horse is probalby not going to be good for pulling people around in a carriage to begin with. Let's not pretend that these horses would be roaming free and happy in the wild if they were not pulling carriages. They would probably be doing the same thing or be ridden by some other rider around in a circle somewhere. Let's not overhype the traume thing. Also, if that were the case, there would be no police horses etc and if it were so inhumane, the Amish would not be using them and there would be no thoroughbred racing either. So I get it, you dont like it, but let's at least let others make their own rational choices on the matter, we do not need the Seelbach crew doing it for them.

Who's to say these are squalid conditions? Certainly, you or I would not live there, but we are talking horses who are very comfortable living in barns. They have lived in them for centuries. I would hardly call that cruel and unusual conditions for an animal. Plus, there is the health department and these facilities are likely inspected to ensure that they are being kept to a certain standard. Does it really traumatize the horses? They have been used to pull carriages and have people ride them for centuries. It is not as if people are treating the horses as some side show that is different than what they originally were intended to be. To your point as well, it is not like they were be turned over to roam free in the wild. Chances are, if the city shut down operations, they would be relocated to another city to do the same job. The city controls the zoning code, the county has a health department, there are other agencies under the city's purview that could be dialed up to make it difficult to do business in the area if they wanted. Seelbach was of course trying to be his virtue signaling self and try and fix a problem that only really existed in his head.

OTR would provide nicer architecture and that draw for people to see. ALthough I am not sure if the bar crowd down there is the horse and buggy crowd. Although stationing them by Washignton Park and music Hall may not be a bad idea. It would fit well with that neighborhood. My wife and I took a ride around 10-12 years ago one time and it is a quick circle through Piatt Park and City Hall. They certainly capture the crowd and family crowd on the square but to your point, I do think it could work in the Washington Park area and the route can be pretty similar just go South instead of North. There are enough people who ride them that it is economical for the stable company to offer these rides. Clearly it is a viable business model in the city or else it would not be here and I highly doubt the city subsidizes the stables. They are enough of a draw that for those who want to enjoy them should be able to do so. To your point, no they would not be missed like they would be in Charleston SC but for those who want a ride during the holidays with their family or on a cool fall or spring evening, it is an amenity worth having.

Where would they be? Would they move in front of the Westin? It seems like that would bottle up traffic on 5th. Walnut is too narrow and it has the bus traffic. Fountain sq seems like the only real viable place for them to operate.

I don’t think most council members outside of Seelbach really care strongly about the issue

^ I think they could go to another part of the square. I personally think they are a good thing. It is an additional attraction to bring people downtown and to create that downtown experience. It is a small business, it brings in some payroll dollars to the city. It adds to the city experience. I could possibly see why Ruby would not want it next to his patio, but at the same time the carriages would also add to his experience. There are a number of clientele who would go to a romantic dinner there or visitors from out of town who may check out Ruby's and then go for a horse and buggy ride afterward. To me it is shortsighted to get rid of them as they are an attraction for people in the city that cant be experienced elsewhere in the suburbs.

If you are going to turn it into a Class A apartment building, it is pretty much expected to have W/D hookups today. You can have a very nice building without hookups and offer a central laundry, but you really need to have the hookups. It really does not add too much costs considering they need to run plumbing through the building to each unit.

it is nice not seeing Clemson there for once. I misspoke earlier too. I meant to put Michigan at number 5 jumping Cincinnati this week. Both have a common opponent in Indiana and Michigan looked better beating them than UC.

My top 6 Prediction 1) UGA 2) Bama 3) Oregon 4) Ohio State 5) Oklahoma 6) Cincinnati

Ryan would have a much better time winning governor than Senate. I agree with you on this

I cant see them acquiring Marc's or a more discount chain like Acme. Kroger is trying to position itself on the mid/higher end of the scale. Heinens could be a possibility although Heinens has a small footprint. Some of their last deals like Harris Teeter and the acquisition of the Milwaukee company were designed to get it into concepts that competed on the higher end of the market to allow for products with a bit larger margins. Stores like Marcs or the Food Lions of the world are not a good fit for that model. If Kroger makes a brick and mortar play in NE Ohio, I would bet it would be more along the lines of a Heinans or going really big and trying to buy Giant Eagle out, but if they do that (Giant Eagle), it becomes more of a real estate play. My guess is that they build up a delivery warehouse with their Ocado subsidiary and then they pick a few areas where they can have a retail presence around their distribution center and build a few brick and mortar from scratch. Their new distribution model does not necessitate an acquisition to get into the market anymore.

Dave's?? Is that an Akron chain? I have not heard of that one. I always remembered Topps, Giant Eagle, Heinans, and Marcs.

I’m not sure what that really means. At the end of the day, whether you have a D, an hour, or a C behind your name in city politics, you need to keep it local and I don’t know if Candidates are going to be constrained by party as much as they would if they were running in a state wide or national election. Look at David Mann, Jeff Berding, Alecia Reese Who are Democrats that did not always align themselves in a voting bloc with other Democrats. Party affiliation does not mean the same thing in local elections

I was thinking UC was going to be anywhere between 5&6. 4 would have been a wish, but as long as they were in the top 6 that would have been about the best I was hoping for. The ultimate sign of disrespect was if they were 7 or 8. The committee got it mostly right in that sense. Whether you are 5 or 6 is completely irrelevant. Ohio State at 5 just means the BIG will relinquish one of their spots as the teams play each other down the stretch. The only true locks are 1 SEC and 1 BIG team in the playoff. The last 2 spots are really wide open. The team to be most concerned about is Oklahoma in my opinion. If they win out, they are P5 and undefeated and would have won against 3 top 25 teams to get there (Baylor, OSU & whomever they beat in Big 12 championship). That will be more than UC has. Currently, UC has a better resume than OU because they do not have a top 25 win and UC's win over Tulane looks better than OU's win. It would have been malfeasance to rank them ahead of UC at this point, but it will likely change by the end of the year. The ACC is not a threat, Even if Wake wins out, they will likely have Zero top 25 wins or if they do have one it will be against a lower level top 25 team. UC's win at ND was much better and the committee has recognized that. Bottom line, if Cats need to win out and OU, Oregon and Bama all need to lose another game. All of this seems reasonable.

I don’t think that is the case though. Uc is ranked higher than Oklahoma who is also undefeated. Oklahoma beat the same Tulane team by 7 points at hone earlier in the season whereas UC won by 19 on the road. Also, UC has better wins than OU this far. I think the comparison to OU is more appropriate at this point