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PG was very pro-development. There will be other council members who share a pro-development vision. I would not cry too much over PG. Although, he was a bit of the kingmaker on council (of course now we know why) which will slow things down in the short term.

Hell I lived in Cleveland for a number of years and had no clue about the Forest city moniker. WOuld hardly have described Cleveland in that way. Heck I even went to Lumberjacks hockey games and always throught that was a silly name for a team in Cleveland and did not understand why they would have that name in Cleveland of all places.

In all fairness, the Keating family has been pretty upstanding citizens in the Cincinnati area for a long time. Even when Charlie was around Cincinnati politics, he was a pretty good steward of the public (back in the 70s). He did not get corrupt until he was out in AZ running his S&L's

I think there is still enough Repulbicans to have 1-2 on council at any given time given how the ballots are set up. Keating likely becomes the new Murray but Sunderman may struggle a bit more to hold her seat and who knows what becomes of Pastor's seat. I predict it goes to a Dem or Independent like Flynn.

What is going on with the old Kroger building?

I dont know about that. It wont really come up for discussion until 2024 at the earliest. I think many in the GOP are strongly in favor of it and like anything, the more people get used to it the more permanent it becomes. I think initially you saw this in the Blue wave in CA house seats in 2018 where Orange County was routed. The tax break was huge for people there and their GOP Congressman let them down in those areas so the seats flipped. Some of them have started to flip back. So that was the initial reaction. Now we are 3 years in and there is a level of acceptance of these new rules (and people paying the higher taxes) and you are starting to see people adjust their behavior, espeically high profile people. People are fleeing California, but they are also fleeing New York. While you hear about the big city flashy people who move, there are a heck of a lot more in places like Syracuse and Rochester and temequla who may be off the radar but are also taking their tax dollars with them.

You are right. Most of the Ohio wines I have tried are more dessert wines and I really have never been a dessert wine fan.

Ohio wines are awful (at least Ohio wines made with Ohio grapes), not something you want to pay homage too.

You figure if it is Cranley there is going to be more to come with this. It does seem like most of her politicians were Democrats, but I thought she did have a few Republicans too, correct me if I am wrong. If it is solely Democrats, it limits things to the larger cities. If Republicans are in the mix, it could be someone like a mayor from Findley or Delaware or someplace like that (but why bother with such a small fish). It will be interesting to find this out.

Given that it said older Ohio mayor and 2011-15 Cranley would have been mid 30s-early 40s it is probably not him. Plus, he did not become mayor until 2014. So mayor Coleman maybe?

Can we really say the reason why certain candidates did not win re-election in Cincinnati given how voting is done. I think typically, places 1-6 are generally popular across the board and carry with them a pretty broad base of support but places 7-12 pretty much swing wildly every year that it is pretty hard to place the blame on one issue as to why the candidste suffered. I get if PG fell from 1 - 10, you can likely trace that drop to specific positions alienating voters, but someone like Quinliven or Harris who genarally fell in that 7-12 range, a big part of their win and/or losses can be attributed to a coin flip in many cases.

This chart gives a good example of why rent growth is flat in certain metros, especially during the pandemic. https://www.naahq.org/news-publications/units/august-2019/article/apartment-completions-set-spike-2020 I dont have the Cleveland slides but I remember that over the last few years, the Cleveland Market averaged between 3000-5000 new units year over year. Columbus and Cincinnati are similar with Columbus generally being on the higher end of all the Ohio metros. Point being, Austin and Cleveland are typically about the same size metros but there is a heck of a lot more product coming on the market there than in Cleveland making it harder to absorb in a slow market like this, no matter what the high end job market looks like. Now on the Cleveland side, Cleveland, as an older city developed the infastructure much earlier than Austin (or Columbus for that matter) so there is a lot of existing product in Cleveland (I cite some of the towers over in Gates Mills or North Olmstead as examples) that was Class A at one time that can be renovated into good product again and absorb larger rent increases. There is a lot of that going on in Cleveland that does not necessarily register on the statistic reports but goes a long way to the climbing rents seen on the rent stats

I do not think it speaks to YOY growth as much. Although Cleveland is not really shrinking like it was 20 years ago. The big thing obviously the simple supply and demand. While there are probably an influx of people into Cleveland (it is probably not too large), the larger factor is that there is probably not the same influx into Austin as there was before the pandemic. While the pace of movement to Austin may have slowed, they had a ton of Class A apartments in the building stage or near completion when this hit. I know even before the pandemic there were concerns about the Austin and Dallas markets being able to absorb all the new inventory coming on the apartment market in a short time frame (3 years out not a big problem) so given that Austin was a bit overbuilt from the start and then you had a large influx of new construction that likely hit the market in the middle of the pandemic, it is natural that there will be downward pressure on rents in that market. San Fran and NY were a bit different animals, but it seems as if their problems are more people leaving the cities because of the restrictions than an oversupply. Orlando makes sense given its draw to tourism. The surprising thing was that Vegas was not on that list given its reliance on tourism and hospitality.

There is a lot of investment money that flows to Nashville leading to much more construction. In one regard, it is a bunch of institutional investment companies that trade projects amongst themselves and inflate things. You also have a lot of speculators (especially with the presence of the music industry) that give it a larger than normal flow of capital for all the construction projects. If you look at some of the new high rise condos being built, there are a good number of wealthy people that will buy them, hold them as a potential investment and never step foot in them (nor even rent them). It is like buying artwork or a classic car for them.

I dont dislike the guy because of his politics. I disagree with them. I dislike the guy because he is a world class a-hole on a personal level.

Please God noooooo!!!!!

It looks like it is directly across the highway from the Beach. The office Building is Gates Air and it is pretty much behind the Wendy's and McDonalds. Not where I figured it would go, but given the fact that they could create a nice themed attraction, with all the all the bells and whistles of a class A park, it could be like a Disney like experience.

I think they have to change the rule. Especially given Ohio State beat IU head to head, and had control most of the game until late when they let IU mount a comeback. Given they didnt play their best game, it was apparent who the better team was

I think Smitherman has more support in the black community than you are giving him credit for. He certainly will have support of the moderate GOP crowd who would vote for Cranley. You would have to figure the typical Cranley voter will support Smitherman as those two generally share many of the same platform (Smitherman a bit more to the right on fiscal issues). I do not think the best comparision for the mayoral election is the countywide races this year. a Presidential election year (and to a more limited extent a Congressional election year) are going to bring out more voters than an off year election. I would probably agree with you more if this were an even year election. If that were the case, we would probably have mayor Simpson or Qualls at this point. However, given that it is an off year election, the turnout is typically very low and therefore the calculus is a bit different in an odd year election.

Not necessarily. You have Charlie Winburn who always runs well as a Republican. There is room for someone like him on the ballot. I agree, he woudl have been crushed by Sittenfeld, but with Sittenfeld effectively out, there is no one to take up the mantle. Cecil Thomas can certainly command a base, but you cant forget that not too long ago, Smitherman was a pretty powerful head of the NAACP in town and does have respect of a good portion of the African American community. If anyone who is right leaning could make it interesting, it would be Smitherman.

In your opinion, what is worse from the optics and standpoint of running for office: a Sittenfeld who pleads guilty or is convicted of bribery, comes back and runs for mayor as a reformed but convicted felon, or an indicted Sittenfeld, who says he is innocent and fighting it with the cloud over his head? I would argue he is a much better chance to compete once this is all behind him, even if he is guilty, than he does right now. Even if innocent, just the cloud of indictment is enough to give voters pause in voting for him because he may nto be able to serve if elected, which in one sense is a bigger deal.

Sittenfeld was the most formidable candidate with support in the business community and support amongst many of the other power brokers and coalitions in the city (not universal support, but enough to almost have the sense of inevitability in the race before this). Now, who really has such a strong voting bloc. Thomas has his core supporters, but he also is polarizing to some. Mann does not capture much attention from really any group. The other potential candidates do not have name recognition. Smitherman probably has most name recognition and has a number of key voting consituencies in his corner (not enough to put him over the top) but you would thank he would at least be in a strong position starting out (he did receive the 2nd most votes behind Sittenfeld in the last council race). Who do you think is a potentially more formidable opponent at this point that may step in? I think someone like Yvette would not win right now if she tried because I think she is going to still be tainted by the Children's hospital deal. Roxanne has been out of the game too long now. Who else in Democratic circles would be a strong enough name to take on Smitherman? The only other person I can think of would be Mallory again, but would he want to be mayor again? Eric Kearney comes to mind too, but it seems like his wife is taking over the political mantle and it may be a bit of a conflict to have a husband and wife team on council and mayors office.

I see Smitherman putting his hat in the ring soon. The political winds have shifted and are now blowing at his back.

But if there is going to be a primary sometime in April, I just cant see him advancing in a 3 or more person primary with a cloud of a federal bribery charge hanging over him, or at least it would be a lot more difficult. I think it would be much easier if he even pleaded guilty and had it over with (assuming he got no jail time) than having to run while the case is pending.

While I agree with you on one end, if you think about it, where are his employees likely coming from? I do not think many urbanists are going to fit into the culture of a conservative evangelical organization like Ramsey's business. So on the flip side, I can see why he may have chosen the location.