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I'm hoping to spend less time on UO. I wish I knew how to quit you.

Cranley says that the streetcar as currently proposed would max out the NPV of the CBD and OTR east and west TIFs.

Congratulations, Joe Deters, you've just been named Cincinnati Jackass of the Month.

Another reason why I hop the trees grow well and quickly. To slightly obscure that mess.

Greater CBD is OTR, CityWest/Betts Longworth sections of the West End, and Adams Landing. I call shenanigans on just cherry picking out the sections of the West End that are being redeveloped. Count on them to keep following those stats eastward along Eastern Ave as well.

The key is the soil type brought on site. Apparently, the usual type used leads to trees that never seem to grow. My understanding is that the soil used at Fountain Square is the high test stuff.

That's Willie's slot. Ahem.

Man, that must have been brutal to transcribe.

I don't think they're trying to be deceiving... There's no canopy of trees because they haven't grown in yet. How many years until the trees mature?

Ok, who were the council members that did not vote or vote against? I am still trying to widdle down who to vote for on Nov. 6th. This was only the economic development committee, not the full council. Only five members.

Bortz closes sqying that this is the most important project in Cincinnati in 75 years. And I'm spent.

Some lady says that this is overpromising, that this will serve only rich, and that she wouldn't trust Bortz with $1 of her money. Nice.

Amended resolution passes unanimously. Public comment time. Two week resident up first, here from NYC. Demystify OTR and downtown, and attract more young professionals. Some dude named Brad Thomas droned on for a few minutes, urging that we move forward. Wasn't paying attention. Julie kept it under two minutes. Don't think that will hold for Mr Cincinnati. Tarbell makes the good point that we spent 300m on reconfiguring Fort Washington Way. Point two about strength of city built on rail transit. Times up and there's no stopping Jim.

Dohoney talking about importance of reconstituted planning department. Job creation, workforce development, waterfront development, housing attractive to several income levels. Dohoney kicks ass.

Qualls is talking about routes on Madison to Madisonville, Hamilton to College Hill, Glenway to wherever that goes. Again, concern about neighborhood access. In long term interest to strengthen every neighborhood as a transit oriented, pedestrian area where people want to live. Making the point that Portland looked at this as a bigger scale issue, a comprehensive plan. Dohoney responds that this is taking place as part of a holistic approach to revitalizing City.

Crowley knows the score. "We're going to get pushback from folks that dont like the route and from other neighborhoods that feel like they aren't seeing the same investment as downtown. Someone upthread said that shouldn't matter but it does to councilmen. Crowley now cautioning that we much make sound comparisons qith other places like Portland. Moore replies that this is based on Cincinnati and it's situation, not just dropping Portland's plan into the basin.

Qualls isn't throwing as muxh cold water on this as I am maybe suggesting. She's just being cautious. I think all agree that they want to have more info, and, as Bortz says, have several more bites at this thing.

Request for changes to language of ordinance while Crowley buys them time for revision. Crowley is for it as well, but wants more info. Crowley: seems to him that we meet needs for current movement while influencing new development and movement patterns. Moore responds that its about serving existing assets while unlocking underutilized resources.

Thomas does not want to wait. Sick of hearing about dwcelopment accross the river. Need to make moves to be a progressive city. Strange but valid closing note about protecting blind folks from quiet cars. Qualls offers amendment to direct administration to continue streetcar plan, and report back to council within 4 weeks on sources of funds and impact on capital budget and city and neighborhood projects. She's making sure to stress the neighborhood bit. Election season.

Bortz pushes back that it is proper to move on this resolution now. Recognizing that this is not an ordinance for specific allocation. Berding up. Request for clarification on next steps for council. How do we go from today to start of timeline. Dohoney responds that admin will present info on capital budget and TIF funding. Within 4 weeks on follow-up. Dohoney doesnt want to speculate about how uptown phase would work out feom a timing standpoint. Would have to get funding and political support from uptown interests. Federal process not a straight line. Commit to start right away on next phase once the first gets underway. Berding asks about NKY, are they interested? Dohoney hasn't talked with govt folks in NKY. Berding notes that the budget discussion has focused on expense side without considering how to increase revenue. Good point; one that Thomas echoes with his comments. "golden oportunity to grow economy"

blue ash airport. Sorry unclear, trying to go quickly. Bortz points out that this isn't just about Portland. Little Rock has this fer crissakes! Going over the resolution to begin discussion. Resolution will allow the admin to get more specific with funding sources. Qualls up. Exciting to see vision that can generate economic development in neighborhoods and competitive advantage for city in the region. Concerned about what sacrifices will be made, what are the consequences of this decision. Not ready to vote on this resolution without further info on allocation from TIF and capital funding. Election season.

Dohoney speaking to address concerns he knows are coming. Now Bortz before questions. Props to all. Time for city to show that it can walk and chew gum at the same time. "we can't afford not to do this." City should move to make this happen now. Question about why not up Vine? Sounds like a 3CDC question. Moore answers that more development possibilities in OTR on that alignment. CBD route b/c of preexisting infrastructure of Main Walnut bridges.

Wrapping up the presentation. Stressing the 14:1 benefit. dohoney talking about how this funding doesn't come from the operating budget. Making the point that doing nothing means going backwards. If the city is going to capture its potential, must step out big on this one. Seize the moment, must take risks. To delay is to kill the project. Act with confidence. Rando would explode if he heard this.

sorry, city capital.

Capital funding breakdown. TIF 25 mil citt capital 25 mil Blue ash 11 mil public private partnerships 20 mil private contributions 11 mil state capital 10 mil Additional 80m to get to uptown. Going to uptown makes this a better process, but not ideal for first stage. Operating projections fares: 1.1 m the rest sponsorships and SID. Missed the slide, but that 2.3 m total.