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Seriously? You would rather get distracted and 'drift' into a passing vehicle?

Well I stumbled on this little rendering. An adaptive reuse of the old Sammy's location. Has this been mentioned elsewhere? http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/19301292/1400-W-10th-St-Cleveland-OH/

The left most part of the facade hasn't had scaffolding ever (or at least in a long time). I don't think they could. That area was the location of the exterior elevator. With that elevator removed, I imagine they will put up new scaffolding on that section to fix the bricks on the facade.

That's awesome! Four international ships/month? Having such a massive economic anchor downtown could provide a ton of vitality for the Flats East Bank and any future lakefront mixed-use development. I know moving the port was desireable for some, but with it staying in place, having it succeed will help the nearby developments. Yahoo!

CMon everybody. Hold your horses. This is a street facing building with retail. It has some design to it. And it's a walkable grocery store. This is still a win. And the building pictured is clearly the smaller retail building not the grocery store. So let's withhold some judgement and see the good in this.

First, west 25 is not a high crime area. Crimes happen everywhere and we hear about them in west 25th because it is surprising when they do happen. Second, yes, parking behind a building can be more dangerous....so you put lighting and cameras back there. But there are also thousands of good people who live and walk around in ohio city. They have their eyes on the street too. And third, saying parking should be on the front of buildings because you deem an area unsafe now misses the point. An area is unsafe when people feel like they cannot walk around safely by themselves. If all of our buildings are set back from the street then no one will want to walk around and therefore it would feel more unsafe. Putting active, bright buildings up to the street improves safety because more people are watching the streets, walking around the streets, and going to businesses. If we all just drove in and drove out, it would make it less safe.

Because the smart, young, educated workforce they need want to be located downtown and live nearby. And because by locating at the center of the region you can draw from a larger workforce than when you sit on one side of the region. Let me ask...why did Eaton, for instance, once choose to locate downtown?

Thanks KJP, I'll look into those

The most recent public meeting for the Gordon square arts district had some suggestions for these areas. Info here: gsad.mindmixer.com (only five days left online)

I recently learned that the west side neighborhoods of cleveland were once incorporated as West Cleveland, a village of some 6000 people when it was annexed to the city of cleveland. I haven't been able to find much of the history of the city. Are there any good resources that UOers know of? And specifically, did the city or village have a flag?

Where'd you find this kjp?

Sure, to each their own, aesthetic is a personal opinion. One thing you can't argue though is that the contemporary design of MOCA, Uptown and the Med Mart (or whatever it's called) has put Cleveland on the cultural map partly due to their respective designs. That is one thing that developments like Alta House or Avenue District cannot say they've done. To each their own, yes, but we also have to build in the context of good urban design. There are things we know now a days about how to build buildings that feel safe, that feel lively, that attract people. Things like verticle lines, people-oriented ornamentation, fine details, windows, good materials and lighting. The current building certainly is terrible for that. This new building is better, but still falls short in some very important categories. The side street wall is flat, uninteresting and will feel cold/lonely for a pedestrian. And what looks like a below grade patio with an overhang is going to be extremely dark, wet and cold.

This showed up recently:

I went by today. The sheet in the window states its a temporary location.

RTA applied for a tiger grant to rebuild the brook park station. http://www.portofcleveland.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Co-applicant-letter-from-City-of-Cleveland.pdf

I was wildly impressed with the entire show...really great stuff. One thing I hope they do now is start leaving the chairs on the little square there out more often. I was downtown on a sunday afternoon and wanted to sit and drink a coffee in the square and the chairs were all chained up. We just spent 16 million on a bunch of fancy lights, lets leave the chairs out so people can look at them :P

I just read the comments under that and oh my god. I had no idea there were roving bands of thugs downtown that go around blasting away artwork all day. You'd think the police would stop this. Seriously those comments make me realize how much work we have left to do. Hopefully the chandelier brightens some peoples view of downtown.

The next round of TIGER grant applications are due on Friday...anyone know who's applying? I know NOACA, cleveland, the port, cuyahoga county and strongsville are all applying for planning or infrastructure grants.

It's not a public park, it's a public square. And the renderings and discussion have said that it will be quality pavers, so bad materials is a nonstarter. I'm not really sure what you're rant is about. Are you not happy about the quality of public events there? Or about the space itself? I certainly want them to consider how events would be programmed on this new space (and I really want them to create a 'friends of public square' group whose sole purpose is to enliven the square with events.)

This ad campaign reminds me of this:

Didn't it include a parking garage? Or was that just for the Tiger funding?

Even Cincy's? Edit: Yea, you're right. Well. It was a thought.

What if---and I understand this would be tremendously expensive, yada yada---but what if buses dropped below public square, we built a tunnel up to the Detroit-Superior bridge, made the underside of that bridge a bus way, and the buses came back up on the other side. It would be rapid transit, we could have a temperature-controlled bus hub in the center of the city, and public square could be made whole again. Seattle did a bus tunnel: http://ktransit.com/transit/NAmerica/uspnw/seattle/bustunnel/Photos/sea-bustun-pioneer-112202-05.jpg As did Boston: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Silver_Line_%28MBTA%29_1297.jpg And of course Cincinnati has the tunnel underneath the Banks. (for the record, I don't know how to post a whole picture in a post, ergo the links---help anybody?)

Why would you want a street grid that close to the water. Bringing cars all the way down there wastes valuable real estate on parking, whether it's surface or structures. I just really hate cul de sacs. Maybe it's irrational, but I just HATE seeing them in urban areas. I could agree with that. Maybe a one-way street encircling the development, with the main north/south and east/west paths down the middle two-way. I 100% agree that I hate seeing cul-de-sacs in urban areas...but this doesn't bother me. The cul-de-sacs limit the amount of infrastructure that this development will require, lowering costs. And I don't really care to have a street along the lake. Why not make it manicured and pedestrian-only? Cul-de-sacs are terrible because they limit connectivity of various neighborhoods. But adding a street grid all the way around won't add any connectivity to this development. It borders the lake.

IMHO, I think the mall has more grounds to be developed in some way than public square. That said, I don't think either should be developed. There is a market for great public spaces...we just don't really have them in Cleveland. As an example, I would point to Bicentennial Park in Cbus. Before its redesign, I went there once and was not impressed. After its redesign, I (and THOUSANDS of others) have gone there all the time. There is just one restaurant, but the fountain, connecting bike trails, and beautiful views make it amazing. I think the redesign of Public Square could do the same. (though I am hesitant that it will be as great with buses literally rumbling through the middle of it) http://www.sciotomile.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/bicentennial-park.jpg