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I find that institutions often don't want to put up with the hassle of temporary relocations (which is understandable) so they end up building replacement locations on less than ideal sites. The original site is usually the best site. You see this all the time on college campuses and with K12 school districts, where the new fancy high school or engineering building is in a worse location than the original. The ideal site for a replacement justice center is the current justice center site, which is of course why they put it there in the first place.

Here's a novel idea... Figure out a way to reconfigure things so you can build it on the current justice center site!! Maybe a temporary jail somewhere else, tear down the jail, new tower on the jail site. Also Cleveland police are likely moving out so that'd open up room as well. Anyways that's probably for a justice center thread.

Just read KJP's article and I want to echo the sentiment that if the Jacobs/Weston lots are used for a crappy new Justice Center then I'm moving.

Agreed. It has its own story to tell and I am happy for the investment in the neighborhood.

Amazing photo set. I believe the guy who owns the building in the last photo is trying to make something happen with it to compliment the park and museum. Also CPL is going to put up a new branch nearby I think on 66th.

That's exactly why I'm something of a skyline skeptic.

This is where the city will need to insist on certain design considerations in return for whatever incentives are given.

If Sherwin took the entire superblock, I'd be ecstatic. When I lived in the Warehouse District, I hated walking through or around those awful lots on the way to the rest of downtown. Those parking lots need to go.

Came here to post as much but you beat me to it. He's literally calling the Q deal the "murder of democracy." Turn everything up to 11, all the time. Can't imagine what it's like to be in his head or the head of those who think that way.

Based on some back of the envelope analysis that I have seen, the demand is there (in general) for new class A office in CLE. If you build it, they will come. Occupancy rates are high for class A towers and companies are all excited to become tenants in sexy buildings like this. The problem is market rents ($30-$35 per square foot for the absolute best office space in the city, much lower compared to other places) do not support construction costs.

This is so important. Let's be real, the area is kind of dead outside of prime "going-out" hours and beautiful summer Saturdays.

I certainly hope (and I believe) we are past the era of midwestern corporations packing up and heading to Atlanta out of the blue, but it has happened. Rubbermaid, NCR come to mind. But we need to get our s@#t together in regards to the talent pool. That's killing us. Keep pouring $$ into breweries to keep attracting the kiddos I guess.

This game is a national disgrace, but it is standard operating procedure, it is reality.

Cheap rhetoric aside, the Trump administration probably treats the press better than the Jackson administration does.

Just by being the geographic center they get a lot of meeting business. Anything related to education, state or local government always meets in Columbus.

Earth also follows this pattern

This is the answer.

The thing that's really sad about frat hazing culture is that it's true that going through hell with a group of people helps to forge bonds. But that could be used for something productive instead of just drinking copious amounts of alcohol - why not bring in a drill sergeant and get the kids into the best shapes of their lives? Or make them like, build something? Clean the toilets and re-do the nasty-a$$ carpeting? It'd have the same effect.

They were suspended for a long time in the 00s as well...

The egos at city hall are just mad that the developers found a way to go around them. The developers were naive in thinking that that would be a good idea.

You raise some fair points. I think you're too quick to dismiss health care and biotech. Don't forget, these industries not only bring in a lot of outside $, they have huge supply chains. I agree the blockchain thing is a joke, though, I'm rooting for it. But not sure why Moreno wouldn't focus on any of the other industries we've mentioned.

Like Health care, biotech, and manufacturing? I think the local economic development scene is actually pretty well tuned in to these local home grown advantages. I would say the execution could still be a whole lot better, but things aren't quite as bad as you're implying.

I agree with you in terms of what service should be... but I can hear the attack ads already when this goes to the ballot box for a countywide levy, if there's only service in the city and inner suburbs.

I'm all for bashing government agencies, but it's more that these people are scared. Scared to reduce suburban service for fear that it will make their political situation even more tenuous.

All of that is true, except the examples were independent nonprofits, not a county owned safety net. If Cleveland goes to two systems I would surmise that the clinic would acquire UH, not Metro. UH is the one going through an identity crisis at the moment. And I am not trying to pile on UH, I like UH, but it's true.