willalbro

^^ Ya, Cincinnati is just gonna shrivel up and blow away. :roll:

Thanks for all your hard work!

^^ That's great news for Dayton, thanks for posting!

^^ Thanks for posting this! Great to see that our progress is noticed by Cleveland! Woot!

I went by there to be sure. It's definitely for rent at the moment. Unique Campus Rental's offices are just down McMillian next to where the Korean joint used to be.

Unless I am mistaken, it is still vacant but is advertised for rent by Unique Campus Rentals.

My apologies for coming off snarky. I could have been more clear in my intent, which was sadly lost in cyberspace.

Another question is where does it end? Do I throw open my doors to the home invader? or turn my keys over to the car jacker? I have to say if giving away replaceable property can protect myself, children, wife - then so be it. There is a line in the sand where defending one's life or family is of utmost importance. That's the point of CCW / firearms. Not keeping my favorite wallet intact.

^^ I understand where you are coming from. I disagree with it. But I think we can both live with that.

I dunno, for me, someone threating me with deadly force seems to imply the willingness to use it. Perhaps compliance placates someone desperate (crazy) enough to threaten so in the first place. Perhaps not. It's really at the whim of a criminal at that point. And really, just how mean that criminal may be. So to say compliance equals safety is something I don't buy into. And neither point of view seems to have stats to back it up, so I guess we are back to personal preference. Fight back or comply. Also, I think there is a skewed perception of responsible gun owners. Skewed with those that want to prove something, or talk about what they would do, or how macho / badass they are. I know several people with CCW and their attitude seems to be very peaceful and "God forbid" I ever need to use my gun. In other words, it's the last resort. Thus I voiced my objections with the notion that having the means to defend oneself is the same as escalating a violent situation. It seems to blame the would be victim for deciding to fight back.

^^ Whew, thanks for the grammar corrections. Guess I better choose my words with the utmost carefulness around here. ;-)

^^ Do you have any data that backs up compliance with an armed robber guarantees they won't shoot you anyway? My point is who knows what a criminal will do and you are at risk of getting shot as soon as you are looking down the barrel of a mugger's gun.

^^ Perhaps our new police chief will make a difference in this regard?

Excellent point of view. UC police patrol around here just a tiny bit (Clifton Heights) and that's usually along the shuttle line on Warner. They are around a little more on the weekends, but usually they are tagging along Cincy police. They can detain but not arrest. Basically, they are like rent a cops once they leave campus.

It's a major assumption that the mugger would not have shot the victim anyway, even after he complied - it happens all the time and who is to say what this crime could have turned out otherwise. All we know is the little the media told us. And of course what has happened, happened the way it did. As for CCW, it's not about being 10 feet tall and bullet proof because one carries a gun, it's about having a fighting chance. I am not real sure how this particular incident is turned against CCW folks. To get a CCW one has to have a spotless record, complete rigorous class sessions and more to get licensed to conceal. Anywho.

I will be sure to never set foot downtown again, might even move to the burbs....whew!

Probably the worst comment section I've ever read. The comment section is absolutely horrible and absolutely typical. The haters can't stop the progress though, so let em hate.

An article from the media pubbing downtown/OTR in Cincy. Page 3 has some interesting stats. http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/From-ghost-town-to-night-on-the-town-Downtown-Cincinnatis-revitalization

Case in point. Take a criminal locked up in the penn. What do a majority of them do? More crime. They spend spare time making shanks to stab each other with. No matter the laws we have concerning guns (and we have plenty) criminals will simply not obey them. Too often stricter gun laws come home to roost on law abiding citizens who are responsible gun owners. That's why to me, it makes more sense to address the issues that drive people to a life of crime to begin with.

People commit crimes, not guns.

There is some serious idleness in this city, gotta say.

Maybe it was just you that felt unsafe and not Cincinnati. It's a pretty subjective statement. But as you said, you have your opinion and I have mine.

Clifton Heights near Vine Street. I am downtown almost daily and walk most places I go.

Mine tell me something totally different. Perhaps it's relevant to one's perspective. And most dangerous cities in the country? Nah, not by a long shot.

What are you talking about? It's from a 54 page discussion paper that details it's findings, not some random list compiled on a reporters desk.