mrclifton88

Regarding our soil / bedrock issue ^ how many downtown towers were actually built with caissons vs. pad foundations (aside from the big 3) ? By all speculations it seems this tower would have to go that route.

Not sure where to put this but the IX Center is closing !! https://fox8.com/news/i-team/clevelands-i-x-center-to-close-at-end-of-the-year/

I really like their River Point tower in Chicago... 52 stories 730 ft. I'd like to see some curvature to this project to separate it from the very angular Key Tower and 200 Public Square.

Given this timetable and how they have gone about releasing information thus far, when would you guess we might see the first renderings?

I watched the board meeting on August 11 and I believe the recommended scenario was the unified fleet. They went over both options but the presentation highlighted how maintaining two separate fleets is more costly in the long run. Hopefully the unified fleet is the way they decide to go.

Interesting repositioning but makes sense. Especially given the two phase approach, by the time they are ready for phase 2 perhaps the current environment will be such that market rate, a hotel component, or perhaps even condos would make sense again. However if the workforce housing demand is still high, then they can proceed with the current plan. The idea of WRHS having a presence downtown is also very cool. One thing is for sure... Millennia's design of this project is nothing short of perfect while respecting the character and history of the building. Those renderings are absolutely drop dead gorgeous.

Wow... disappointing in that we don't know how long it will now take to see some life here... but on the other hand- I never loved the design and land use of this project; even with its revisions. I am not happy this is abandoned, but I guess now I am hoping that whatever happens here is far superior in design.

@dave2017 I call that out every chance I get on social media. Looks like we are just going to have to do it ourselves lol

VERY exciting for me... they are replacing the streetlights along Euclid Avenue today! We will see what night brings but hoping these are brighter. So many are out so this is a big step!

K&D also almost bought it and then backed out. It definitely needs help.

I am very happy that while the parking lot will remain for now to serve as a staging area, they are considering other uses for it in the future. Would love to see that another gap filled in!

Waiting for ... ?? Is this due to uncertainty caused by the pandemic?

Wow @MayDay looking at those does indeed seem like a lifetime ago and also shows how far downtown has come in a very short amount of time... one thing that definitely stood out to me... I do NOT remember the Cleveland Cold Storage Building at Abbey! Do you have other pics of that? I cant even picture it now.

The more I see of this the more I love it. Talk about bringing some life to this current dead patch of Euclid Avenue! The quirky, flashy, whimsical design is probably not everyone’s cup of tea but it’s just fun. Love the care they’ve put into livening up both Euclid as well as E. 8th street.

Ugh this is too bad... Penzeys has closed their Ohio City location. I wonder how Intro and the other new development may have helped them. https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/08/21/penzeys-spices-has-closed-its-ohio-city-location-east-side-shop-still-open

Another MONTH ?! Fine I’ll be patient ?? I REALLY need them to be back. I didn’t realize how much I depended on their convenience.

Halle ^ ...also, I was thinking, the loss of the Hippodrome was tragic. But thank goodness the garage they built wasn’t built up to Euclid Avenue and left room for this future development. Were there any plans for this land until this project?

I have a feeling (nothing more) that is will do quite well given all the amenities that are unique to this property. Balconies are rare downtown as are buildings with a pool and other outdoor space. The price and micro units definitely should be a draw- I know several people that would like to live downtown but are largely out-priced. They would also be fine with a smaller unit, given all the other amenities. It will be fun to watch this go up and see how successful it is!

This is such great news. I dont think it can be overstated what an impact this is going to have! ...and this was a welcome surprise: "A future phase two could rise on the Prospect side if the proposed tower on Euclid leases quickly. That could also depend on the amount of new residential units in development or under construction in downtown Cleveland over the next year or two."

Just wishful thinking and iPhone markup ?

This photo is incredible! But it could be even BETTER ? (excuse my VERY professional rendering)

After reading it again I think you may be right! Vocon was not involved with Viaduct. If true, very exciting to see City Club moving ahead!!

It looks like this is actually for the Viaduct not City Club- I think they put the wrong name.

Wow that is really too bad... it’s such an incredible space. Not sure what else can even go there?