OCtoCincy

Atlas is right. Urban Cincy had 6 census tracts with growth. 2 downtown. 2 OTR. Newport & Covington. Urban Indy had....1. The rest were all losses. And while census tracts alone aren't the exact same size, comparing the maps of the two shows much more growth in Cincy's urban core. You have to be lying to argue otherwise.

Ya- joe is right. The VBML is not stopping someone who has the $250,000 in financing from fixing up a building. Also- paul, you're not from here so you may not realize that OTR has been neglected for over 40 years. up until only about 15 years ago no one rehabbed anything because Buddy Gray would lead protests against nearly any development that wasnt affordable housing. Then he was killed in 1996 as momentum was growing to fix up OTR. Then the riots 5 years later, and now, in the midst of the greatest economic catastrophe in 70 years OTR is growing dramatically. You're acting like a $900 fee would stop a hundred thousand dollar project. All it does is put pressure on property hoarders to do something with them.

^ I've heard that too. Hence why it's next to the "Rose" garden. In the end it will be like the serpentine wall... But less serpentine-y.

If you walk along that sidewalk you can see spots were the cement is temporary for future tree plantings. Not sure when "future" is though...

A brand new W Hotel would do that very nicely. Anyone know about how high they would look to build a hotel in that space? I assume it would have to be significantly higher than the apartment buildings in order to get maximum use out of the tight confines. Pretty sure the hotel is supposed to be 10 stories and the townhomes are supposed to be 3-4.

^ pretty sure all that was indeed approved by planning commission. Someone on here posted a link to a doc that showed all communications between 3CDC and duke, MSD, GCWW, etc.

For streetcar, I'm betting $2 for a day pass.

3 things: 1- gorgeous photos Sherman! 2- the Bartlett building is GORGEOUS! Ugh, how do we get it renovated into apartments. It's currently empty with the water & power shut off. 3- I hope they build those town homes or the hotel soon! It's so depressing with that ugly beige stucco background.

^ im pretty sure that crime statistic has been rebuffed as a standard anti-urban talking point. Until I see a study that shows that, I will continue to observe it as a made up lie about why cities are scary and dangerous. Also- Jake, I think you are probably the most elitist person on this forum. When you were 18 I bet there was some 35 year old complaining about the "annoying grunge kids who think they're so cool". These stupid ageist arguments are incredibly annoying. The people who complain about "Mt Adams kids or Hipsters" are just as annoying as the homeless advocates who complained when YOU, the young urbanists showed up into their neighborhood 15 years before that.

Turns out it was electric & not gas, but still- shows that Duke's infrastructure in the City is very old. Scary.

^ there are people like that, definitely, but also i've made friends with many strangers I met at places in OTR. It all happens, the good, the bad- te outsiders, the new insiders, the natives. That's what a strong neighborhood has. The difference is that so many of us are used to OTR being this isolated paradise, or this diamond in the rough we've been working to shine for decades. But now it seems like people are afraid to let go. There's nothing wrong with these people visiting. If they didn't, the restaurants wouldn't survive. If anyone thought that revitalizing OTR meant that only people like those who worked tirelessly to save it would spend time there, you were very wrong.

Oh crap! I feel like an idiot now- emailed a couple councilmembers saying the Chiquita sign should come down ASAP and be replaced by the sign of a company that actually wants to be here (Nielsen). How could the reporter screw that up?!?

Interesting. I hadn't heard anything about design but I have heard that some developers have come forward and are in talks with 3CDC about being part of this developments. Basically I was told its now UNlikely there won't be apartments.

Another huge difference goes way beyond the bars and restaurants themselves. There was virtually no residential component to the mid-late 90's OTR boom. Now, there is a massive influx of vested residents, who not only patronize these establishments, but then live next door to them as well. And OTR's residents are not just renters, but a significant number of owners as well. This makes a huge difference in the longevity of a neighborhood renaisance.

^ did you love that bar? Did you also love the grill?

^ woo!! They sold 5 of them before they were finished. The last two went into contract as the finishing touches we're being put on.

^ correct, but it's having the reverse effect on CUF, where all these kids are leaving.

Actually... That looks like a typical european village street. That is considered highly walkable and standard there.

The Othwr day there was a guy down in the trench standing and I could barely see his helmet. Pretty deep!

I'll also note one concern- three of the four bridges crossing FWW have "good/excellent" ratings while the main street bridge has a a significantly worse rating- my memory almost says its rated as poor. Anyone know why?

^ hell, even just one cap, that is temporarily a lawn would go really far at promoting pedestriansim from the CBD to the Banks by downtown workers. I'd be fine with building the Caps piece meal as opposed to one massive project.

Well until statistics start taking into account lifestyle, that's the best way to do it. Also, everyone is ok with listing murder rates as a determination for how dangerous a community is- which are incredibly unrealistic since most urban homicides lean heavily towards African Americans- but its suddenly controversial when you separate it to black and white statistics & probabilities?

^ I'm sure they'll figure it out.

Almost every day this week I've seen construction going on from 7AM-6PM. I work at Music Hall so it's Definitley noticeable, and exciting. They had large green pipes out the other day, I'm guessing for the new water main. Also, Streetcar & metro passed will be compatible- same kiosk, etc.

^ Wine Guy replaced two of the Doyle store fronts. Supposed to open this summer,