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UGH!!!! I wish this whole project would shut down. it's hideous and will be a big failure (just like several of the big box buildings Vandecar originally did have sat empty for years- The original Millworks plan was a thousand times better. Also- can a Mod change the title to Oakley Station

^ ya- I don't think they'll both last. They attract the exact same crowds.

^ $4.50 a day. More expensive on game days.

I was visiting family in Virginia recently, and I met an older lady (late 70's) who grew up in Cincinnati & left in 1950. She told me she lived in Walnut Hills & asked if Peebles Corner was still the center of town- She said it used to be the most popular place to be- all kinds of bars and clubs and people constantly out. I've always loved that building, and wonder what that corner had looked like in its heyday.

Um- No. Not true. "The city's focus right now needs to be on basic services ahead of streetcars, but the reality is, this project is now in the hands of the voters, and I will respect the direction they give us in November." - Enquirer. "“The city's focus right now needs to be on basic services ahead of streetcars but the reality is, this project is now in the hands of the voters, and I will respect the direction they give us in November. I plan to vote 'no' on Issue 48 because tying the city's hands for such a long duration and denying citizens the chance to revisit critical issues and changing circumstances when it comes to transportation or any other city function is bad governance that I cannot support.”" - CityBeat He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. He's telling pro-streetcar people I'm for it, and anti-streetcar people now is not the time. DO NOT be tricked. Non-incumbent candidates like Seelbach, Simpson, Riveiro, Flynn, Hollan etc. have been crystal clear. Sittenfeld's wishy-washy stance is enough to turn me off. bfwissel, please tell that person you greatly respect that they are being fooled.

The ninja is right- He hasn't raised a lot of money at all- but he doesn't need it. He has the media on his side giving him free media constantly. He has amazing name recognition and he's made his 2 campaign issues "no streetcar, no police cuts" and he's winning on that. He will place in the top 3 in the black community, 13 or 14 on the east side, and then it all comes down to westside moderates and conservatives. Will they fall for it?? Other than opposing the streetcar, his platform includes taxing all stock options within in the city of Cincinnati (a tax against the rich in his mind), banning the city from imposing a garbage fee like the vast majority of american cities have (a tax against the poor in his mind) and not cutting anything!! His plan is insane, but enough people hear "i will stop the streetcar" and they love it. If the mayor had any sense of the climate against 48 and the streetcar he would be giving speeches building support for the streetcar or AT LEAST giving big speeches building support for Issue 48. Think Obama Healthcare/jobs plan speeches- big exciting, rally the base- make a few key points and get noticed!

Smitherman signs are EVERYWHERE! In every neighborhood. Really scary.

^ I'm sorry! I failed at my math. Double checked with my source, the order was, roughly: 6&7 were Smitherman & Allen- 8 was Lippert and Quinlivan, Murray & Young were all bunched very closely together around 9, with Laure holding a slight advantage over Amy. Many of the people were VERY close together in this poll, with 5 of the incumbents higher, Smitherman and allen bunched together a bit lower, Lippert and the rest very close behind and of course, a decent sized margin of error. This just gauges the general trends, and like I said, is just about two weeks old.

Just a heads up on Pro/anti-streetcar politicians. The Cincinnati Business Committee paid for a city-wide poll on the council race- It had Allen & Smitherman finishing 7 & 8 and Lippert 9. Murray, Quinlivan & Wendell were all bunched at the 10 spot. Basically, City Council could very well become 6 anti-streetcar, 3 pro-streetcar. The poll was done about 2 weeks ago- and what should be noted is you can never really count on non-inumbents (who aren't former politicians) to show up in these polls this early on since most of their media won't start until the first week of October. BUT it does spell bad news for Murray, Quinlivan & Young who will really need to step up their game. If you haven't volunteered for or donated to a pro-streetcar candidate, now is the time!

Ya-- The title of this thread annoys me. Some of these are from very well done survey's/rankings of prominent groups. Yes, others may be silly things, but some do not fall in the "dumb-a$$" category.

^ I completely misread your original statement and have retracted my original comment- I thought you wrote "This is why it's so hard for me to vote No on Issue 48." Whoops!

I'm thinking all this talk about Wilson Auditorium belongs in a different thread...

New Streetcar Video from CincinnatiStreetcar.com

^ Is this post a joke? haha someone already posted about the Orange Leaf earlier today. :)

^ I'm not saying it should be rushed, etc. or purposefully done as a political move before the election- but if the process had led to a contract being awarded before Nov 8, that would have been wonderful.

The best thing at this point would be the awarding of a contract to build the streetcars. A signed contract that would cost the city millions to cancel, thus putting pressure on the Issue 48 people.

Got some pictures of the inside of the new Johnny Rockets.

It's called "Park Haus" and it's 25 scattered single or two family homes that 3CDC owns and will work directly with the buyer on renovating.

Unfortunately, I'd bet my house that it's not gonna happen. Hard Rock Cafe isn't opening anything in the US, in fact, they've been closing US locations. Since the 2007 change in ownership, they've switched to an almost entirely international focus. Hard Rock's planned locations for 2012 openings include: Dubai Hanoi Budapest Macau Santiago Brussels Malacca Closed US locations in the last 5 years: Newport Beach CA Austin TX Sacramento CA Salt Lake City Los Angeles Birmingham AL I don't see Cincinnati on that list anytime soon. :(

^ KY closed a bunch of corporate tax loopholes last year. That may have been what they were talking about.

We all talked a lot about the changes to the Vine side of the parking lot due to the land swap with OTRCH but did anyone discuss the partial demolition of one of the buildings on Mercer?

They mentioned Ohio's "favorable corporate tax rate".

^ Yup, definitely never ever is part of any benefit to a company. You seem to live in a land where it's either 100% the reason (never true) or it's 100% never considered. No one is moving NOW to be on the streetcar line because no one even knows if it will be built. But once under construction, just like in many cities across the country, it will be a factor. http://crosscut.com/2007/10/01/amazon/7918/Amazon-plans-a-headquarters-move-to-South-Lake-Union/

I was walking by Mercer commons recently. There were some men in hard hats going in and out of the boarded up buildings. Structural pre-work I'm assuming. Also, an update on City Home Phase 2. Welcome to the neighborhood! The abandoned buildings across 15th are owned by 3CDC and will be redeveloped in the coming years. The middle 4 buildings well underway.

That's not why they are moving. Of course that's not why THEY are moving. Nor did I say that or imply that in anyway, and your consistent and bizarre snarky remarks are getting old. For the future success of the route, etc. it adds another major company to the route. This is a good thing.