Rustbelter

Noticed this developer is trying to unload their project site for the townhomes on Madison. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Madison-Lakewood-OH-44107/2053826350_zpid/

Not a bad thought. Could be a catalyst to extent the waterfront line to the east while spurring development in a neglected part of town.

I rather see residential development on the Scranton site, so I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing (assuming the original brewpub stays, which I can't imagine that leaving). However, the Cleveland mayor's office should be reaching out and trying to find them a spot to keep the production facility somewhere within city limits.

I thought the next phase of development was going to include a theater. Seems like that has stalled out for now.

So do they ever charge for parking at Edgewater? Based on the comments above it sounds like they could at peak periods to discourage parking lot overflow.

I like it. Have seen some nice infill projects with the charcoal gray brick.

Already have one stadium obstructing the waterfront, don't need another.

So who is driving this? Looks like these are County properties. Who are developers involved? Hopefully East Cleveland doesn't get in its own way.

Wonder what happens to the Oswald building after the move. Remain office space or another candidate for apartment conversion?

Probably true, and it seems like this would be a tough conversion to modern office standards. Not to mention lack of onsite parking, which I'm sure the county wants. Although I have no idea if some of the lower portions of the building could be converted to a parking garage?

So the payment/ticket integration with the Transit app is great but was wondering if there are plans to install proper scanners at tower city? Right now you have to show the gate attendant from the app, and every time they have just let me through without even really checking.

This info looks flawed at best and malinformation to push an agenda at worst. Not saying this topic doesn't have merit but I looked into this using the interactive maps for Cleveland & Chicago (the cities I'm most familiar with) and there are several omissions. For example this doesn't include Lakeview Terrace and Tremont Point in Cleveland, or Cabrini Green in Chicago (like how do you omit the largest urban renewal area in Chicago?). These areas were mostly white when these renewal projects happened. This also does not appear to include displacement due to highway construction, which seems to have impacted mostly majority white areas in Cleveland (at the time at least). Also can say the same about Chicago. The maps: https://dsl.richmond.edu/panorama/renewal/#view=0/0/1&viz=cartogram

Nice to see some plans to improve the Merriman Valley. Could be a really cool area with this rezoning.

I really don't know why this concept needs dedicated bus lanes, one travel lane would be fine. If it were parking lanes instead it could have bump-outs for pedestrians which would make it overall better experience for walking. They could make exceptions at bus stop locations and at major turns. One of the least of Cleveland's problems is traffic congestion.

Superior doesn't get much street parking because it's underdeveloped and there are many businesses which have empty lots adjacent to them for parking. If this corridor ever becomes a dense urban nieghborhood with a proper urban fabric then you're going to need street parking in front of businesses. In this theoretical scenario the side streets are going to be residential and people are not going to want business patrons parking on their streets. As far as urban districts served by parking garages those aren't very common either, even in cities with densities way beyond what we see in Cleveland. I don't think I've ever seen a stretch of urban arterial this long in a US city with no street parking. I'm all for road diets and bike infrasturcture but these need to be realistic.

If renovated maybe it's possible to put a completely different facade on the building? The developer of Church & State did an adaptive reuse of a building in Chicago that was even uglier than the justice Center tower and you would never know. https://www.cedarst.com/portfolio/the-draper-phase-i/ Here is the before: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oY9RYqZAYnYLj1Fj9

That's pathetic. At a cost of $3,976/month no less. Now imagine that lot pulling in $3K a month x 100 apartments. Also imagine how much tax revenue this costs the city. Would be a shame if the city instituted a special tax on "semi tractor-trailer parking, construction staging, and/or equipment storage" in this district to make up for that opportunity cost.

Possibly done to accommodate retail spaces or maybe to step back the residential units on Detroit away from street traffic? Is sometimes done on infill buildings in Chicago that are on major thoroughfares, but these examples are not as extreme. https://maps.app.goo.gl/VWBBCeKkmaU4yt876 https://maps.app.goo.gl/YYVZAnd2k2dadfbKA

Oh I agree Superior is full of awful land uses and I'd like the city to tell those owners to go pound salt. All in favor of doing away with access drives, curb cuts, and perpendicular parking in front of buildings. If it were up to me I'd reduce Superior to two lanes in each direction, one for travel and one for parking (with intersection bump-outs). No need for that dedicated bus lane (I'd save that space for a future streetcar 😁). Frankly, Superior Ave has very little traffic so bus traffic is not a real concern. Unfortunatley it also doesn't have the density to support businesses on pedestrian and bike traffic alone IMO.

So would this give incentive for Scranton-Averell to develop (or sell) their propoerties?

Seems like a solid site plan. I know there's an emphasis on affordable units with this development. Wondering if that means income restrictions or if that's accomplished by having 'microapartments'? Looks like a lot of studios in the main building.

I agree that this needs to incorporate onstreet parking. Big mistake and not in touch with the realities of the area if it's removed. There appears to be enough right-of-way to incorporate these improvements and also have parking. It could be done similar to what is in front of the Langston on Chester.

Just saw this. Do the NIMBYs actually have any traction here? I thought this was a go at this point. Sucks they didn't interview any supporters. Ohio City homeowners share concerns about proposed apartment complex

E 12th Street/Place serves as access for several buildings and the service elevators for the Halle and Crown Plaza are also off Huron. So not sure how practical closing off Huron to traffic would be. That said, Huron has wide sidewalks and relatively little through traffic and should absolutly be a focus for restaurant and retail uses. The plaza at Huron & Euclid has a lot of potential and would be better served by businesses that activate this space.

Well 100k is probably ambitious but I realistically think 50k living between the Innerbelt and Scanton Peninsula/Flats West should be a target. This area is roughly 2 square miles, so that's 25,000 per square mile required to acheive. That's a reasonable figure for a North American urban core. As others have mentioned brick & mortar stores are not what they used to be but downtown is also lacking day-to-day amenities that don't lend themselves as much to online shopping. It would be nice to support a Target, more drugstores and grocery options, optomitrists, dry cleaners, 711s, casual takeout places open later, etc. Heck, I'd think SOME cothing retail could be expected exist, like at least along the lines of a DSW or Nordstrom Rack. Botique retail will come with more resdences (who would likely be middle class or higher); it's not like there's a lack of spaces to house them.