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I'm not sure you can compare a city like Cleveland to Columbus. Cleveland declined because of the overall collapse of domestic manufacturing, among other things. Columbus just doesn't have that kind of overreliance on a single industry. Even if government cut back significantly from current levels, it would likely still do okay. Plus we're talking about the metro area, not just the city. Metros tend to grow regardless of how the city does. There really isn't too much, if anything, to suggest that growth will slow down by the near 50% the study suggests.

So another building is on the IV November agenda. This new proposal is for a 219 unit, 5-story apartment building. This is in addition to the 368 units currently under construction.

Early rumors of the Madison renovation call for it to become a hotel with some kind of parking garage behind, but those are very early and may not be true.

Columbus grew by 224K during the 2000s, which was higher than the 1990s which was in turn higher than the 1980s. If we accept the same trends into the future, 500K in the next 36 years is going to be a very low number. I expect something more like this: 2020: +225K-230K 2030: +230K-235K 2040: +235K-240K 2050: +240K-245K Total 2010-2050: +930K-950K There really isn't any reason to expect that the growth totals will decline as the metro grows larger and becomes a greater magnet. Worst case, I think 800K is more reasonable. The report expects only 125,000 per decade, much lower than current growth rates. Why? That's the main issue I have. Other than that, I like how it lays out the different results depending on how development patterns move forward and that it clearly prefers urban infill over sprawl.

Africa is the #1 origin continent, followed by Asia. However, Asia is rapidly rising in totals while Africa stagnated or even fell some, mostly due to the decline in Somalia's total. One other interesting note is just how few Latin nations send significant numbers to Columbus aside from Mexico. In fact, most Latin nations declined between the two periods.

It's for the Columbus metro. The average annual international migration (at least in recent years) is about 4,900. So the numbers above are for the period, not by year. The census does these migration origin numbers.

About 1/4th of the Columbus metro's population growth is through international migration. Most people know that Columbus has one of the largest Somali populations in the country, but most don't know where else people are coming from. I looked up migration estimates for the 2004-2008 and 2009-2013 periods to find out. In the 2004-2008 period, Columbus attracted international immigrants from 131 nations, and 138 nations 2009-2013. Over both periods, Columbus gained from 148 total nations, so it gained from MANY places. Obviously, many are not high numbers, but still. In any case, here were the top 50 nations for each year, and the total estimated migration. 2004-2008------------------------2009-2013 1. Somalia: 4338----------------1. Somalia: 2988 2. India: 2080-------------------2. India: 2267 3. Ghana: 1667------------------3. Ghana: 1903 4. China: 1389-------------------4. China: 1299 5. Ethiopia: 1069----------------5. Ethiopia: 1233 6. Kenya: 922--------------------6. Kenya: 1030 7. Mexico: 556-------------------7. Iraq: 729 8. Sierra Leon: 449--------------8. Mexico: 622 9. Philippines: 434---------------9. Bhutan: 573 10. Nigeria: 400------------------10. Philippines: 502 11. Canada: 389-----------------11. Nigeria: 431 12. Mauritania: 377--------------12. Sierra Leon: 424 13. South Korea: 355------------13. Canada: 379 14. United Kingdom: 347--------14. Pakistan: 375 15. Vietnam: 347-----------------15. Jordan: 358 16. Russia: 313-------------------16. Nepal: 352 17. Ukraine: 306-----------------17. Senegal: 350 18. Liberia: 304-------------------18. Morocco: 330 19. Morocco: 298-----------------19. Burma: 328 20: Pakistan: 287-----------------20. South Korea: 320 21: Jordan: 284-------------------21. Dominican Republic: 306 22: Egypt: 245--------------------22. Mauritania: 300 23: Guatemala: 222--------------23. Guinea: 291 24. Bangladesh: 221--------------24. United Kingdom: 280 25. Senegal: 214------------------25. Cameroon: 277 26. Taiwan: 201-------------------26. Bangladesh: 262 27. Japan: 198---------------------27. Vietnam: 255 28. Guinea: 191--------------------28. Liberia: 233 29. Dominican Republic: 176-----29. Eritrea: 232 30. Iran: 174---------------------- 30. Egypt: 229 31. Colombia: 170-----------------31. Russia: 211 32. Peru: 158----------------------32. Iran: 207 33. Germany: 148-----------------33. Japan: 184 34. Cameroon: 142----------------34. Ukraine: 161 35. Cambodia: 138---------------- 35. Algeria: 153 36. Tanzania: 138------------------36. Peru: 147 37. Eritrea: 133--------------------37. Jamaica: 145 38. Former Soviet Union: 133-----38. Tanzania: 135 39. Indonesia: 124----------------39. Colombia: 134 40. Turkey: 123------------------- 40. Taiwan: 130 41. Albania: 121-------------------41. Haiti: 129 42. Venezuela: 120----------------42. Germany: 127 43. Algeria: 112--------------------43. Gambia: 126 44. Brazil: 110----------------------44. Turkey: 125 45. Sudan: 110--------------------45. Venezuela: 117 46. Macedonia: 106----------------46. Brazil: 116 47. Haiti: 104-----------------------47. Democratic Republic of Congo: 115 48. Gambia: 103--------------------48. Albania: 110 49. Jamaica: 102-------------------49. Former Soviet Union: 103 50. El Salvador: 99-----------------50. Israel: 98 Total for the top 50 2004-2008: 21,241 2009-2013: 22,231 Total for all international migration. 2004-2008: 23,923 2009-2013: 24,747 Here are the top 50 greatest % changes between the 2004-2008 and 2009-2013 periods. 1. Burma: +1,461.90% 2. Iraq: +1,095.08% 3. Nepal: +877.78% 4. Benin: +500.00% 6. Democratic Republic of Congo: 475.00% 7. Croatia: +300.00% 8. Yemen: +286.67% 9. Rwanda: +222.22% 10. Greece: +175.00% 11. Gabon: +166.67% 12. Cote d'Ivoire: +111.43% 13. Libya: +100.00% 14. Central African Republic: +100.00% 15. Malta: +100.00% 16. Burundi: +100.00% 17. Belgium: +100.00% 18. Angola: +100.00% 19. Bhutan: +100.00% 20. Antigua-Barbuda: +100.00% 21. Serbia: +100.00% 22. Norway: +100.00% 23. Finland: +100.00% 24. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines: +100.00% 25. Tajikistan: +100.00% 26. Saint Kitts-Nevis: +100.00% 27. Cameroon: +95.07% 28. Saint Lucia: +83.33% 29. Zimbabwe: +80.95% 30. Saudi Arabia: +77.55% 31. Eritrea: +74.44% 32. Dominican Republic: +73.86% 33. United Arab Emirates: +69.23% 34. Mali: +68.42% 35. Nicaragua: +63.64% 36. Senegal: +63.55% 37. Armenia: +60.00% 38. Azerbaijan: +60.00% 39. Guinea: +52.36% 40. Jamaica: +42.16% 41. Uganda: +39.58% 42. Algeria: +36.61% 43. Qatar: +33.33% 44. Pakistan: +30.66% 45. Hungary: +28.57% 46. Jordan: +26.06% 47. Malawi: +25.00% 48. Haiti: +24.04% 49. Lebanon: +23.64% 50. Gambia: +22.33%

This needs to be clarified. The northern 2/3 of Clintonville is the part full of elderly whiners. South of N. Broadway is NOT a similar neighborhood to the northern part, and really shouldn't be lumped in the same neighborhood commission as them. Zip code 43202, while it is only half in Clintonville, (and also half in Old North Columbus) is the second densest zip code in Columbus(behind 43201), and is the third youngest zip code (behind 43201 and 43210[which is OSU dorms]). Yes, the southern third of Clintonville is DENSE and YOUNG, and has urban-minded people living in it. Okay, but the southern 3rd isn't showing up to development meetings. It's pretty clear who's in control of that, and that's the Clintonville that's at issue.

I know, one other thing the article mentions as a "concern" is issues with the sewer system! Is the sewer system at max capacity right now that it can't handle one mid-sized apartment building? I get the feeling that the opponents are simply throwing crap against the wall and seeing what sticks, but I bet the underlying reasoning for Clintonville being so anti-change and anti-urban anything is because the population is 1. Old, and 2. Very white. Clintonville has one of the oldest median ages of all Columbus neighborhoods, and is even one of the oldest in the whole metro. It's also one of the least diverse areas as well. Throw that combination together, and you get suburban bland mentality with the fear of apartments=criminal behavior.

The rest of the article is at: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/remaking-columbuss-most-downtrodden-neighborhood/380860/ There have been tons of positives for Franklinton the last few years. About 1000 residential units are planned in the East Franklinton area right now through multiple projects, along with more artist space, a performing arts center, etc. And the article didn't even mention one of the biggest projects: The redevelopment of the Scioto Peninsula where COSI sits. Thousands of residential units in mid to high rises, a new park, a new Vets Memorial and museum, and perhaps some other cultural projects now that the zoo won't be building there. There's plenty of space.

I don't know, from what I've seen in recent studies, Columbus remains the city without the most sprawl and without the fastest-growing sprawl in the state. May be surprising, but true.

More jobs coming to the area. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/23/time-warner-plans-job-fair-thursday.html 50 from Time Warner. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/22/donatos-adding-200-workers.html 200 from Donatos. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/23/regional-unemployment-rate-down-in-august.html The unemployment rate dropped half a % to 4.4%. This is both good and bad, as the number of employed dropped a bit, but the number of unemployed dropped more. This typically happens in mid-late summer before holiday hiring begins in September. So we should see employment go up the last 4 months of the year, as well as total jobs. I expect the unemployment rate to fall below 4% by the end of the year as well. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/22/home-prices-up-in-august-sales-lower.html Home sales continued to be down while prices reached a record for the area. This is really about supply, which is historically low. There just aren't enough houses to meet demand, and some places around the city have barely a month's supply.

More about it from the Dispatch... http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/24/new-restaurants-for-port-columbus.html A few local restaurant chains are moving in. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/24/port-columbus-passenger-count-remains-on-rise.html Passenger traffic was up for the 6th month in a row.

http://time.com/money/3312364/casper-wy-best-places-to-live/ Columbus comes in at #6.

Agree. Buyer's market may mean good deals on housing, but that really just means that there's a glut of supply, lower demand, or both. Those aren't necessarily positive indicators of a housing market.

I'm not sure I'm getting your point. What is negative about more people being able to be successful? And how does that make a city less sophisticated, exactly?

Looking over that list, an interesting fact is that all 3-Cs had better economic growth the past year (either by total or %) than quite a few Sun Belt metros, like Austin. This may coincide with the way that domestic migration to the South is generally slowing down, or in some cases, reversing. I think I posted it here, but Texas is now a net sender of people to Ohio, rather than the other way around that it's been for a long time.

The metro GDP numbers have been updated, not only for 2013, but for the past decade. All of Ohio's metros jumped, some fairly significantly. The gap between the 3-Cs shrank even more. Updated Metro GDP 2001-2013 (Numbers in Millions) Akron 2001: 21,646 2002: 22,742 2003: 23,744 2004: 25,217 2005: 26,649 2006: 27,418 2007: 28,177 2008: 28,663 2009: 27,761 2010: 28,616 2011: 29,425 2012: 31,012 2013: 31,485 Cincinnati 2001: 79,973 2002: 82,878 2003: 86,065 2004: 89,950 2005: 94,980 2006: 97,697 2007: 100,929 2008: 102,405 2009: 100,626 2010: 104,538 2011: 108,509 2012: 115,124 2013: 119,090 Cleveland 2001: 88,068 2002: 91,035 2003: 94,704 2004: 99,642 2005: 103,357 2006: 106,011 2007: 108,007 2008: 109,728 2009: 105,035 2010: 109,654 2011: 114,364 2012: 120,393 2013: 122,878 Columbus 2001: 74,452 2002: 78,138 2003: 80,686 2004: 84,380 2005: 88,405 2006: 91,303 2007: 93,748 2008: 94,163 2009: 92,924 2010: 96,855 2011: 101,196 2012: 108,757 2013: 114,253 Dayton 2001: 29,678 2002: 30,720 2003: 31,421 2004: 32,687 2005: 33,840 2006: 35,175 2007: 35,196 2008: 34,828 2009: 33,234 2010: 34,271 2011: 35,776 2012: 37,211 2013: 37,534 Toledo 2001: 22,220 2002: 22,984 2003: 23,721 2004: 24,594 2005: 25,471 2006: 26,303 2007: 26,472 2008: 25,833 2009: 25,821 2010: 26,912 2011: 29,295 2012: 30,942 2013: 31,168 Youngstown 2001: 15,241 2002: 15,837 2003: 16,152 2004: 17,045 2005: 17,833 2006: 18,459 2007: 18,441 2008: 17,807 2009: 16,158 2010: 17,148 2011: 18,806 2012: 19,230 2013: 18,885 Rankings Total Change 2001-2013, in Millions Columbus: +39,801 Cincinnati: +39,117 Cleveland: +34,810 Akron: +10,199 Toledo: +8,948 Dayton: +7,856 Youngstown: +3,644 Total % Change 2001-2013 Columbus: +53.46% Cincinnati: +48.91% Akron: +45.45% Toledo: +40.27% Cleveland: +39.53% Dayton: +26.47% Youngstown: +23.91% Total Change 2012-2013, in Millions Columbus: +5,496 Cincinnati: +3,966 Cleveland: +2,485 Akron: +473 Dayton: +323 Toledo: +226 Youngstown: -345 Total % Change 2012-2013 Columbus: +5.05% Cincinnati: +3.44% Cleveland: +2.06% Akron: +1.53% Dayton: +0.87% Toledo: 0.73% Youngstown: -1.79% Gap between the 3-Cs Cincinnati vs. Cleveland 2001: -8,095 2013: -3,788 Cincinnati vs. Columbus 2001: +5,521 2013: +4,837 Cleveland vs. Columbus 2001: +13,616 2013: +8,625

Do we actually know that for sure or that's just something we think sounds logical but isn't really supported? And does that mean that activities during the summer in the North are more plentiful? I lived in Florida, albeit briefly, and really didn't see anyone out and about on bikes, jogging, etc., and this was not in the summer. But that may be because there is absolutely zero infrastructure to do those things. I can't imagine it's much different in the rest of the South.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/09/04/downtowns-population-growth-slowly-attracts-restaurants-shops.html This article talks about the growing population in Downtown Columbus, which is now over 7,000, or about 1,000 more than it was in 2010. So about 250 people added per year, which would translate to 8,500 by 2020. However, given the current pace of residential construction projects, they're predicting about 8,600 by the end of next year alone, which gives an average annual growth rate through next year of about 520. This translates to a 2020 population of 11,200, which would be the highest since the early 1950s. I'm definitely leaning more towards the higher number being the reality, and 11,200 may end up being a bit too low. Here's a list of what's been completed, what's under construction, and what's planned. Completed since 2010: Commons at Buckingham: 100 Units Seneca Hotel conversion: 76 Units Annex at RiverSouth: 214 Units Flats on Vine: 232 Units The Abigail: 35 Units Neighborhood Launch Phase I: 300 Units 34 E. Gay: 1 Unit 600 Goodale: 174 Units HighPoint at Columbus Commons: 302 Units The Flats II: 120 Units Lazarus House: 3 Units Yankee Trader: 11 Units Total: 1,567 Under Construction and Planned through 2015 The Normandy at Neighborhood Launch: 130 Units Bishop's Walk Phase II: 26 Units The Julian: 90 Units 250 High: 156 Units LC at RiverSouth: 212 Units Atlas Building conversion: 98 Units 315 E. Long: 2 Units Hawthorne Grove: 40 Units The Stoddart Block conversion: 52 Units Citizens Building conversion: 65 Units Gay and High new build: 98 Units LeVeque Tower: 100 Units Discovery Commons: 102 Units 101 S. High Street: Up to 4 Units Total: 1,175 Projects we know are coming before 2020 but don't have details on would be Arena District West, future phases of Neighborhood Launch and Homeport apartment buildings in the Discovery District. These 3 alone will likely add up to about 2,000 units.

http://www.columbusunderground.com/day-companies-buys-burned-gay-street-building-plans-renovations The Gay Street building Downtown that used to house Sugardaddy's but burned this past spring will be renovated. The ground floor retail space will be restored and the upper floors, which have been vacant for a long time, will also be readied for offices and residential.

Pretty much. I can't recall any big annexations since the westside casino. Here's the current city boundary as of Nov. 2013: http://columbus.gov/uploadedFiles/Columbus/Departments/Development/Planning_Division/Map_Center/Columbus%20Corporate%20Boundary.pdf The only other larger annexation I can think of since 2010 was the Scioto Downs site.

No, it was supposed to be all of Broad through Downtown. Specifically, I definitely remember the Broad/High intersection being part of it.

North 2005: +4,768 2012: +20,250 Change: +324.71% By State by Year Connecticut 2005: +43 2012: +1,068 Change: +2,383.72% Delaware 2005: +572 2012: +888 Change: +55.24% Washington DC 2005: +237 2012: +334 Change: +40.93% Illinois 2005: +2,516 2012: +2,638 Change: +4.85% Indiana 2005: -171 2012: +2,299 Change: +1,444.44% Iowa 2005: +309 2012: -88 Change: -128.48% Kansas 2005: -538 2012: -144 Change: +73.23% Maine 2005: -915 2012: +561 Change: +161.31% Maryland 2005: +308 2012: +2,504 Change: +712.99% Massachusetts 2005: +586 2012: +360 Change: -38.57% Michigan 2005: +1,229 2012: +5,018 Change: +308.30% Minnesota 2005: -307 2012: -1,513 Change: -392.83% Missouri 2005: -1,010 2012: -531 Change: +47.43% Nebraska 2005: +639 2012: +489 Change: -23.47% New Hampshire 2005: -514 2012: -135 Change: +73.74% New Jersey 2005: +396 2012: +3,251 Change: +720.96% New York 2005: -1,075 2012: +4,107 Change: +482.05% North Dakota 2005: +342 2012: +447 Change: +30.70% Pennsylvania 2005: +3,293 2012: -172 Change: -105.22% Rhode Island 2005: +194 2012: +372 Change: +91.75% South Dakota 2005: -105 2012: -17 Change: +83.81% Vermont 2005: +74 2012: +150 Change: +102.70% Wisconsin 2005: +635 2012: -1,636 Change: -357.64%

Here: http://www.census.gov/hhes/migration/data/acs.html