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Those won't be out until May.

I really like the almost castle-like look of part of the buildings. Wood Companies really tries to match their construction with the neighborhood.

It seems clear that Coleman would love for the building to be torn down and replaced, and it might make financial sense to do so. It's been nothing but an expensive hassle since it was constructed. I wouldn't be surprised if longer-term plans include that very scenario. In fact, the building at 109 N. Front is going to be torn down and replaced within the next year or so. I wonder if that can serve as a temporary home until the HQ is replaced.

Pretty much all of those metros are growing in population, some very fast, and generally have good economies. They can't be that miserable.

Of the six projects in Central Ohio awarded state historic preservation tax credits on Friday. This one is the headline project - see Business First's report at http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2013/12/20/edwards-51-n-high-st-project-tops.html Above is the previous notice from Business First about the Edwards Companies purchase of the former Citizens Savings and Trust Company Building at the southwest corner of Gay & High Streets in downtown Columbus. The full news release from the Ohio Development Services Agency is at http://development.ohio.gov/files/media/pressrelease/12.20.13%20-%20Release%20-%20Ten%20Ohio%20Communities%20will%20benefit%20from%20the%20Restoration%20of%20Historic%20Buildings.pdf --- Below is the tax credit award notice for the renovation of a eight-story Citizens Building: Citizens Building (Columbus, Franklin County) - Total Project Cost: $34,862,319 - Total Tax Credit: $3,126,600 - Address: 51 North High Street, 43215 Seated at the bustling intersection of High and Gay Streets in downtown Columbus, the Citizens Building was constructed by the Citizens Savings and Trust Company in 1918. Additional floors were added to the structure in 1960 with growth of Citizen's successor, Ohio National Bank. Now mostly vacant, the antiquated office building will become 65 high-quality apartments under plans from the Edwards Company. As part of the project, an adjacent surface parking lot will be developed into connected parking and additional residential units. The adjacent lot will have a parking garage with 89 more units above. The new building will only take up about half the lot, so the height will likely be fairly good, on the order of 250 High's 12 stories.

They're townhomes, from what I understand, though I don't know if they're to be rented or not.

I do like the Franklinton design better, even though they are similar. Too much of the same color bricks in Dayton. The Franklinton example breaks up the design a bit more with a lot more contrast. I also don't like the garage-looking projections or the way it sits back a bit from the sidewalk. The bright colors are nice with both, though. Either way, a great project for the neighborhood.

http://allcolumbusdata.com/?p=2065 Ohio's domestic migration problem has been improving for some time. Could the slowing of outmigration be related to the recession? No jobs to move to (especially in the Sunbelt), and no chance to sell the house with the underwater mortgage? Doubtful, as it seems the trend began before the recession and has continued since it ended.

Florida is the #1 state for out-migration from Ohio, but it's also the #1 state for in-migration TO Ohio. I suspect this is a lot of old retirees, though it does seem like quite a few end up coming back.

http://allcolumbusdata.com/?p=2065 Ohio's domestic migration problem has been improving for some time.

"Columbus" the city isn't proposing the development. A private company that bought the site is, and so long as they adhere to any development rules, they are free to build whatever they want. I am all for rehabbing old buildings, but these have been sitting empty for quite some time. They have mazes of additions to the backs that are not well adapted to new uses and would likely have to go even if the High Street-fronted buildings stayed. Over the years, no one has come forward willing to rework them. So should a project that is for certain be blocked in the hopes that, sometime down the line, someone comes along with the time and money to rehab what exists there, especially when the current buildings, even if rehabbed, would provide far less street life and new residents than what is currently being proposed? I hate losing old buildings, but at the same time, is saving them for an uncertain future worth sacrificing a good project that will help neighborhood now? These aren't being torn down for parking lots like they did to hundreds of buildings during the 1960s. Nor is it an office tower with no street-level presence and no hope of adding street life after 5pm. There's no guarantee that any future proposals would save these buildings. These are not on the National Register to begin with. There are quite a few lots nearby, but companies can't build on what they don't own. They will eventually be filled too, and it's not like it's all about tearing down. Right around the corner, a historic warehouse is being renovated, and 250 High is going on a vacant lot.

This is pretty much the direction I'm planning to go into in Columbus eventually. I have an opportunity in the US coming up that may just allow me financially to do this. I would absolutely love to buy up older houses and other buildings in neighborhoods like Franklinton, the Near East and Near South sides and really get involved in bringing those areas back to life. This is basically how the Short North was rebuilt... one building at a time.

That map actually makes it look like the Great Lakes/Midwest pretty much the best region in the nation on this metric.

I made this Google map with Columbus' historic buildings, most of which are on the National Register of Historic Places. It's still a work in progress as this is only a small fraction of what exists, so it will take time to complete, but this is a good start so far. Who says Columbus doesn't have history? http://goo.gl/maps/HOJLi I have also made a page on my site relating strictly to historic housing. It's also incomplete, but it includes old and current photos of houses that exist and those that have been lost over the years. http://allcolumbusdata.com/?page_id=774

Can't argue with you on the Flats II design. Although the scale is good and it will likely look better once all the landscaping is in. And you're right, it will rent out very quickly and add more residents to the Arena District. (By the way, congrats on your 11:11:11 posting time!) Thanks, what do I win?

The Flats II are probably the most utilitarian-looking residential buildings being built anywhere in the city right now. Incredibly boring design that makes even HighPoint at Columbus Commons look fantastic. The good news is that these should rent out very quickly anyway and still add a few hundred new residents.

These numbers are for 2012 and include revised figures since 2001. 2012 Metro GDP *in millions 1. Cleveland: 111,597 *first time surpassing $110 billion 2. Cincinnati: 108,236 *first time surpassing $105 billion 3. Columbus: 100,597 *first time surpassing $100 billion 4. Dayton: 33,858 5. Akron: 29,466 6. Toledo: 28,311 7. Youngstown: 17,563 Total and % Growth By Year 2001-2012 *in millions 2001-2002 1. Akron: +1,132 +5.4% 2. Columbus: +3,807 +5.3% 3. Youngstown: +612 +4.2% 4. Toledo: +871 +4.1% 5. Cincinnati: +3,089 +4.0% 6. Dayton: +989 +3.5% 7. Cleveland: +2,289 +2.7% 2002-2003 1. Akron: +872 +4.0% 2. Cleveland: +3,498 +4.0% 3. Cincinnati: +2,627 +3.3% 4. Toledo: +624 +2.8% 5. Dayton: +642 +2.2% 6. Columbus: +1,575 +2.1% 7. Youngstown: +221 +1.4% 2003-2004 1. Akron: +1,311 +5.7% 2. Cleveland: +4,460 +4.9% 3. Youngstown: +699 +4.5% 4. Cincinnati: +3,456 +4.2% 5. Columbus: +3,151 +4.1% 6. Dayton: +1,019 +3.4% 7. Toledo: +633 +2.8% 2004-2005 1. Akron: +1,339 +5.5% 2. Cincinnati: +4,105 +4.7% 3. Youngstown: +710 +4.4% 4. Columbus: +3,415 +4.2% 5. Dayton: +1,001 +3.3% 6. Toledo: +774 +3.3% 7. Cleveland: +2,874 +3.0% 2005-2006 1. Youngstown: +436 +2.6% 2. Akron: +601 +2.4% 3. Columbus: +2,053 +2.4% 4. Cincinnati: +1,985 +2.2% 5. Dayton: +688 +2.2% 6. Toledo: +489 +2.0% 7. Cleveland: +1,641 +1.7% 2006-2007 1. Cincinnati: +3,935 +4.2% 2. Columbus: +3,552 +4.1% 3. Akron: +1,047 +4.0% 4. Cleveland: +3,290 +3.3% 5. Toledo: +456 +1.8% 6. Dayton: +364 +1.1% 7. Youngstown: +109 +0.6% 2007-2008 1. Akron: +331 +1.2% 2. Cincinnati: +911 +0.9% 3. Cleveland: +767 +0.7% 4. Columbus: +81 +0.1% 5. Dayton: +194 -0.6% 6. Toledo: -826 -3.3% 7. Youngstown: -657 -3.8% 2008-2009 1. Columbus: -383 -0.4% 2. Cincinnati: -1,380 -1.4% 3. Akron: -824 -3.0% 4. Toledo: -743 -3.1% 5. Dayton: -1,234 -3.8% 6. Cleveland: -4,311 -4.1% 7. Youngstown: -1,453 -8.6% 2009-2010 1. Youngstown: +763 +5.0% 2. Toledo: +1,159 +4.9% 3. Cincinnati: +3,315 +3.4% 4. Cleveland: +3,149 +3.2% 5. Columbus: +2,645 +3.0% 6. Dayton: +933 +3.0% 7. Akron: +568 +2.1% 2010-2011 1. Toledo: +2,240 +9.1% 2. Youngstown: +1,097 +6.8% 3. Cleveland: +5,277 +5.1% 4. Columbus: +4,222 +4.6% 5. Dayton: +1,396 +4.3% 6. Cincinnati: +4,135 +4.2% 7. Akron: +1,002 +3.6% 2011-2012 1. Toledo: +1,341 +5.0% 2. Columbus: +4,365 +4.5% 3. Cincinnati: +4,570 +4.4% 4. Akron: +1,186 +4.2% 5. Cleveland: +3,475 +3.2% 6. Youngstown: +324 +1.9% 7. Dayton: +322 +1.0% 2001-2012 Metro GDP Total Growth *in millions 1. Cincinnati: +30,748 2. Columbus: +28,483 3. Cleveland: +26,409 4. Akron: +8,565 5. Toledo: +7,018 6. Dayton: +5,926 7. Youngstown: +2,861 2001-2012 Metro GDP % Change 1. Akron: +41.0% 2. Cincinnati: +39.7% 3. Columbus: +39.5% 4. Toledo: +33.0% 5. Cleveland: +31.0% 6. Dayton: +21.2% 7. Youngstown: +19.5% 2007-2012 Metro GDP Growth *in millions 1. Cincinnati: +11,551 2. Columbus: +10,930 3. Cleveland: +8,357 4. Toledo: +3,171 5. Akron: +2,263 6. Dayton: +1,223 7. Youngstown: +74 2007-2012 Metro GDP % Change 1. Toledo: +12.6% 2. Columbus: +12.2% 3. Cincinnati: +11.9% 4. Akron: +8.2% 5. Cleveland: +8.1% 6. Dayton: +3.7% 7. Youngstown: +0.4% 2010-2012 Metro GDP Growth *in millions 1. Cleveland: +8,752 2. Cincinnati: +8,705 3. Columbus: +8,587 4. Toledo: +3,581 5. Akron: +2,188 6. Dayton: +1,718 7. Youngstown: +1,421 2010-2012 Metro GDP % Growth 1. Toledo: +14.5% 2. Columbus: +9.3% 3. Youngstown: +8.8% 4. Cincinnati: +8.7% 5. Cleveland: +8.5% 6. Akron: +8.0% 7. Dayton: +5.3% Interesting numbers. They imply that the best 2 metros for GDP growth prior to 2007 and the recession were Akron and Cincinnati, and after, they have been Toledo and Columbus, at least as far as % growth goes.

Now that we're seeing some more height going into these buildings... that raises the questions of where and what next? Some potential locations for more mixed-use towers are: 1. This lot at the northwest corner of W. Main and S. High Street. It actually looks like 3 or 4 small lots crammed together, but they represent the very last High Street frontage between I-70 and Gay Street and will be directly across the street from 250 High. http://goo.gl/maps/0sIQ6 2. This lot at the northeast corner of 2nd (Civic Center Drive) and W. Main Street. This is the last lot that sits directly on the Scioto riverbank, and is also adjacent to the Scioto Mile/Bicentennial Park. A tower here would offer fantastic view of the city and river, and its proximity to park space makes this a prime development lot. http://goo.gl/maps/4caAB 3. This lot at the southwest corner of W. Rich and S. Front Streets. It's directly across the street from a public parking garage and only 1 block from the riverfront. It's also only 2 blocks from Columbus Commons. http://goo.gl/maps/IcliL 4. And finally, these broken up lots at the northwest corner of W. Main and S. Front Streets. Close to all the aforementioned amenities. http://goo.gl/maps/bTp5t Again, not sure who owns these, but there have been rumors that some of these will be developed in the not too distant future. There are also lots at S. Front and W. Noble as well as a large lot at the northeast corner of W. Mound and 2nd.

From what I understand, the pedestrian bridge from North Bank will come after the Scioto River work is done in 2015.

I would love to see the Capital South parking garage go away or be redeveloped somehow. The thing is taking up practically an entire city block. The location next to the park has clearly become hot with all the new projects going on. Tear it down and rebuild with mixed use, perhaps underground parking if necessary.

Recession Recovery Update Civilian Labor Force 2007 Pre-Recession Peak Cincinnati: 1,144,892 Cleveland: 1,127,579 Columbus: 983,771 Dayton: 426,685 Akron: 394,042 Toledo: 338,753 Youngstown: 282,147 Recession/Post-Recession Bottom Cincinnati: 1,075,372 Cleveland: 1,030,477 Columbus: 949,263 Dayton: 399,487 Akron: 369,106 Toledo: 314,421 Youngstown: 262,419 June 2013 Cincinnati: 1,107,300 Cleveland: 1,061,160 Columbus: 994,000 Dayton: 406,500 Akron: 377,100 Toledo: 323,200 Youngstown: 269,500 Recovery from Bottom Columbus: +44,737 Cincinnati: +31,928 Cleveland: +30,683 Toledo: +8,779 Akron: +7,994 Youngstown: +7,081 Dayton: +7,013 Net Change from Pre-Recession Peak Columbus: +10,229 Youngstown: -12,647 Toledo: -15,553 Akron: -16,942 Dayton: -20,185 Cincinnati: -37,592 Cleveland: -66,419 All-Time Labor Force Peak Cincinnati: 1,144,892 July 2008 Cleveland: 1,139,708 July 1999 Columbus: 994,000 June 2013 Dayton: 435,679 December 2000 Akron: 394,042 July 2008 Toledo: 351,009 July 1999 Youngstown: 299,997 July 1998 Net Change from All-Time Peak to June 2013 Columbus: +0 Akron: -15,553 Toledo: -27,899 Dayton: -29,179 Youngstown: -30,497 Cincinnati: -37,592 Cleveland: -78,548 Non-Farm Jobs Recovery 2007 Pre-Recession Jobs Peak Cleveland: 1,090,200 Cincinnati: 1,060,400 Columbus: 957,200 Dayton: 407,000 Akron: 346,600 Toledo: 330,000 Youngstown: 242,900 Recession/Post-Recession Bottom Cleveland: 969,200 Cincinnati: 959,000 Columbus: 884,000 Dayton: 363,100 Akron: 308,500 Toledo: 286,100 Youngstown: 214,000 June 2013 Cleveland: 1,024,700 Cincinnati: 1,020,000 Columbus: 974,700 Dayton: 380,100 Akron: 328,700 Toledo: 310,000 Youngstown: 227,900 Recovery from Bottom Columbus: +90,700 Cincinnati: +61,000 Cleveland: +55,500 Toledo: +23,900 Akron: +20,200 Dayton: +17,000 Youngstown: +13,900 Net Change from Pre-Recession Peak Columbus: +17,500 Youngstown: -15,000 Akron: -17,900 Toledo: -20,000 Dayton: -26,900 Cincinnati: -40,400 Cleveland: -65,500 All-Time Jobs Peak Cleveland: 1,148,000 December 1999 Cincinnati: 1,060,400 December 2007 Columbus: 974,700 June 2013 Dayton: 443,100 December 2000 Toledo: 352,100 December 1999 Akron: 346,600 December 2007 Youngstown: 260,600 December 1999 Net Change from All-Time Peak to June 2013 Columbus: +0 Akron: -17,900 Youngstown: -32,700 Cincinnati: -40,400 Toledo: -42,100 Dayton: -63,000 Cleveland: -123,300

Yeah, the unemployment rates rose from a combination of that and a growing labor force as more people are starting to look for work that weren't counted before. The latter is actually good news in terms of how the economy is being perceived.

So overall, not terrible numbers. It's good to see every metro's labor force growing.

Industry June 2013 and Year to Date Non-farm Jobs June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: 1,020,000 +36,700 Columbus: 974,700 +31,100 Cleveland: 1,024,700 +26,300 Toledo: 310,000 +11,500 Dayton: 380,100 +8,600 Youngstown: 227,900 +8,300 Akron: 328,700 +8,000 Mining/Logging/Construction June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Columbus: 31,900 +5,000 Akron: 13,300 +4,700 Cincinnati: 37,000 +4,200 Toledo: 12,500 +2,800 Cleveland: 34,500 +2,700 Youngstown: 9,600 +2,000 Dayton: 11,800 +1,500 Manufacturing June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Columbus: 67,800 +2,800 Cleveland: 123,700 +1,900 Cincinnati: 106,800 +1,500 Toledo: 41,600 +600 Youngstown: 30,600 +500 Dayton: 40,400 +0 Akron: 39,500 -300 Trade/Transportation/Utilities June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: 201,800 +6,600 Dayton: 66,300 +1,700 Akron: 64,700 +1,300 Youngstown: 46,200 +0 Cleveland: 180,400 -100 Columbus: 182,300 -900 Toledo: 58,500 -900 Financial Activities June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: 64,100 +1,500 Cleveland: 65,000 +1,500 Dayton: 17,900 +400 Toledo: 10,900 +200 Akron: 13,600 +100 Columbus: 71,700 +0 Youngstown: 7,900 +0 Professional and Business Services June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Columbus: 162,700 +7,100 Cleveland: 141,300 +4,400 Toledo: 36,100 +3,800 Cincinnati: 165,600 +3,100 Akron: 51,800 +1,600 Youngstown: 23,500 +900 Dayton: 49,300 +0 Education and Health Services June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Columbus: 143,200 +3,700 Cincinnati: 153,600 +2,300 Akron: 53,400 +1,500 Youngstown: 44,400 +1,500 Cleveland: 194,400 +200 Dayton: 69,300 +100 Toledo: 50,500 -500 Leisure and Hospitality June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: 116,800 +17,300 Columbus: 102,400 +13,900 Cleveland: 96,700 +12,700 Toledo: 40,800 +7,100 Youngstown: 25,600 +4,000 Akron: 31,600 +3,900 Dayton: 38,100 +3,900 Other Services June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: 39,000 +1,300 Cleveland: 41,500 +1,100 Columbus: 36,700 +500 Dayton: 14,800 +500 Youngstown: 9,800 +400 Akron: 13,200 +300 Toledo: 11,500 +300 Government June 2013 and Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cleveland: 132,200 +2,000 Dayton: 63,500 +500 Columbus: 159,600 -900 Youngstown: 28,200 -1,000 Cincinnati: 121,700 -1,100 Toledo: 44,300 -1,800 Akron: 43,800 -5,200

June 2013 and Year to Date Civilian Labor Force June 2013 and Change from June 2012, best to worst. Columbus: 994,000 +13,600- This is a record high for Columbus. Akron: 377,100 +4,200 Toledo: 323,200 +2,700 Youngstown: 269,500 +1,000 Cincinnati: 1,107,300 +400 Dayton: 406,500 -1,600 Cleveland: 1,061,200 -9,600 Civilian Labor Force Change May to June 2013, best to worst. Cleveland: +19,300 Columbus: +17,300 Cincinnati: +9,600 Dayton: +4,000 Youngstown: +2,800 Toledo: +2,300 Akron: +2,100 Civilian Labor Force Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: +31,900 Columbus: +26,100 Cleveland: +17,900 Toledo: +7,100 Dayton: +5,800 Youngstown: +5,600 Akron: +5,500 Employment June 2013 and Change from June 2012, best to worst. Columbus: 930,600 +21,600- This is a record high for Columbus. Toledo: 296,500 +4,900 Akron: 350,400 +3,600 Youngstown: 247,000 +800 Dayton: 374,800 -1,100 Cincinnati: 1,025,900 -9,900 Cleveland: 979,100 -9,900 Employment Change May-June 2013, best to worst. Columbus: +12,100 Cleveland: +7,500 Cincinnati: +3,100 Dayton: +1,500 Youngstown: +900 Toledo: +500 Akron: +100 Employment Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: +36,900 Columbus: +30,100 Cleveland: +21,800 Toledo: +11,100 Dayton: +8,800 Youngstown: +8,700 Akron: +8,600 Unemployment June 2013 and Change from June 2012, best to worst. Dayton: 31,700 -100 Cleveland: 82,100 +300 Youngstown: 22,500 +300 Cincinnati: 81,500 +500 Akron: 26,700 +800 Columbus: 63,400 +1,100 Toledo: 26,700 +1,100 Unemployment Change May-June 2013, best to worst. Youngstown: +1,800 Toledo: +1,900 Akron: +2,000 Dayton: +2,400 Columbus: +5,200 Cincinnati: +6,600 Cleveland: +11,800 Unemployment Change Year to Date, best to worst. Cincinnati: -4,900 Columbus: -4,000 Toledo: -4,000 Cleveland: -3,900 Youngstown: -3,200 Akron: -3,100 Dayton: -3,000 Unemployment Rate June 2013 and Change from June 2012, best to worst. Columbus: 6.4% +0 Dayton: 7.8% +0 Youngstown: 8.3% +0 Akron: 7.1% +0.1 Cleveland: 7.7% +0.1 Cincinnati: 7.4% +0.2 Toledo: 8.3% +0.2 Unemployment Rate Change May-June 2013, best to worst. Columbus: +0.4 Akron: +0.5 Dayton: +0.5 Youngstown: +0.5 Cincinnati: +0.6 Toledo: +0.6 Cleveland: +0.9 Unemployment Rate Change Year to Date, best to worst. Toledo: -1.4 Youngstown: -1.4 Akron: -0.9 Dayton: -0.9 Cincinnati: -0.6 Columbus: -0.6 Cleveland: -0.5