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Portland lays ground work for southwest expansion of High capacity transit. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/news/southwest-corridor-study-scope-expected-be-set-june-9 http://rim.oregonmetro.gov/webdrawer/rec/270514/view

Take note Cleveland they are going to Remove a station and move less than 1/4 miles down the line.

Discalimer!!!!! I like what the project does for the parking lot. BUT I think the buildings are too big for the Site and lack the human scale that the buildings around it have.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/transportation/2014/08/31/new_ttc_streetcars_make_their_debut.html New TTC streetcars make their debut By: Kim Brown Staff Reporter, Published on Sun Aug 31 2014 Torontonians taking the Spadina streetcar might have noticed something different when they stepped on board today. That’s because the Toronto Transit Commission has finally launched the first of its new streetcars. For the first time in 30 years, a new generation of streetcars is being incorporated into the transit system in hopes of improving travel time and experience for customers. The low-floor streetcars, which are fully accessible, have a larger capacity, air conditioning and bright, easy-to-reach stop request buttons, were introduced on the 510 Spadina route Sunday. This route will also switch to a proof-of-payment system on old and new streetcars, meaning passengers with proof of payment can board at any door. “Customers will enjoy a smoother, quieter and more comfortable ride on the vehicle, which is jointly funded by the City of Toronto, Government of Ontario and Government of Canada,” the TTC said in a news release. In total, 204 streetcars will be deployed

I rely on you to be the voice of Cleveland past, to explain why things cannot be done. I look for ideas from others on where infill stations can be added to support the continued rebirth of the city. but he has a good point that some advocates willfully ignore the fact that we have put our railway is such poor locations to make it extremely difficult the build TOD around them. E Rocc is right the Redline works best as a regional express for local bus service. unfortunately RTA thinks its better to send buses Downtown than to transfer riders to the rapid. The same people will at once tout the benefits of our rail system yet, say it will never be expanded, and others argue that we shouldn't try to apply for Federal funding for the Redline Extension. I agree a station across from the Gateway could encourage more dense development, in an area that is close to the amenities of downtown and offers valuable land for development. I could see Air rights over this station and a potential P3 to fund this development. To those who say it too close to Tower City, I feel they miss the point of TOD and the fall into an old line of thought about the difference between train station and a transit station. Access does matter and having only one station in Downtown Cleveland isn't good, neither is funneling event riders into tower city center only to have them take a 10-15 minute walk through a walkway and in to get to an Indians game. not to say that tower city doesn't benefit from the traffic but that traffic would stay in downtown longer if there were more pedestrian oriented development along Ontario that this perspective infill station could provide.

Except that few places that rail transit can extend to are walkable and thus are not comfortable settings for transit to reach. Ideally, we'd want to extend rail transit to a job center that's somewhat pedestrian friendly and, following the extension of transit, can be modified at little expense to become much more pedestrian friendly. Furthermore, the reason why the Red Line extension, even as expensive as it would be, would meet federal funding criteria is because of commuter inflows to UC and moreso because of downtown. The reverse commutes are icing. And let's not kid ourselves, to make a serious dent in the awful stat that only 27% of Greater Cleveland jobs are within a 90 minute transit trip of a Greater Clevelander would require a major adjustment of policies, planning and funding. Not only do we need more projects like the Red Line extension as well as less expensive services such as reverse-commute express buses on highways, but we also need to shift public subsidies away from supporting outward suburban sprawl to bring jobs back to the doughnut hole. But this should be done systematically, starting with a service goal, such as my 90-90 concept: 90 percent of jobs should be within a 90-minute transit trip in Greater Cleveland. 90-90 concept: 90 percent of jobs should be within a 90-minute transit trip in Greater Cleveland. I like it. Here is a Thought: Is it a realistic to pursue the wholesale abandonment of exurban areas? Is this a better regional strategy than encouraging the abandonment of urban areas for the Exurbs? In our region with Zero Growth Our development pattern is more like musical Chairs than growth. We will not see areas like Avon and Medina disappear over night, but we can work to prevent the next Avon and Medina from forming and work to make those areas develop in a less sprawling way. What I'd like to see is a more holistic approach where work to prevent the areas like Westlake and Beachwood from becoming the next north Randall, Euclid or Parma and focuses on increasing Regional Growth and making sure that growth is in areas where Transit is strong. Redline Extension is important but it cannot be the the end of outward expansion of the rail network.

Also understand the fundamentals of transit Networks, The more Places you go the more likely people are to use it. so in DC you can get on the the metro and have access to millions of jobs and places to live work and play. The network of metro lines. This network goes everywhere, is fast frequent and reliable. So every extension of the network draws upon the destinations the network already serves. the same thing here except < 10% of regional jobs are within waling distance of a Rail station so the number of worker able to use the network is small, in DC I guess that number is closer to >50. Access does matter.

Yep. But the point being is that this what Cleveland rail projects are competing with for federal funding. Sure, the Red Line extension meets federal funding criteria. It doesn't mean it's actually going to receive any money. This isn't an excuse for not competing for federal funding. I guess we sucks soo much we shouldn't compete for anything.

The vehicles in the video have maximum capacity of 190 persons (70 seated) current LRT cars have 74 seats. My proposed varaint of this tram for Cleveland would have up to 74 seats and room for 116 standees , 4 bikes, and 2-4 wheelchairs. In a related note having More seats that cannot fit people with long legs defeats the purpose of having large numbers of seats. This is a chicken and Egg thing, it would be Assumed that POP would be used with these vehicles.

These should replace Cleveland's light Rail fleet.

it is time to replace the buses that can't with the trams that can

go back even further, to the reconstruction of the shaker rapid, I believe that the state had a hand in funding that and the Healthline. there is power in numbers. 90% of ohioans live in Urban areas the majority of Ohioans live in Metropolitain areas. the metro areas around the 3Cs are home to almost half of all Ohioans. we have ashared interest in better urban policies from the state.

PB could be a bad thing. I am hopeful that this is being led by the community not by RTA. this will fail if RTA wants to use a heavy rail hybrid car like was proposed for the Rapid+ Streetcar on the Redline extension study. What We feel is needed for West 25th street are Low floor Articulated Tram vehicles that are within the 20,000-25,000lbs axle load range and width between 2.54-2.65m (8'-8'8" wide) the proposed Rapid plus streetcar was Over 10' wide!!! buses are 8'4" wide and the Blue/green LRT are 9'4" wide. Narrower cars: Are Lighter Require less Road space Blend easier with a mixed- traffic environment. Lower costs of everything, stations, bridges, shallower Rail slab, everything. For the Record 2.65 is the Global standard for Light Rail vehicles, all new LRT systems built after 1980 use vehicles 2.65m wide.

this quote rubs me the wrong way. It means that anything Anyone who has a more ambitious ideas for what transit should be, should GIVE UP and Stop wasting their time because in your opinion it will never happen. IMO this is wrong, all ideas in the "ideas for the future" should be expressed. Things weren't always the way they are right now, this doesn't mean things cannot or will never change. State I hear over and over again, The state of Ohio doesn't fund transit, My challenge to you is what are WE doing to change this? The waterfront line was funded by the State of Ohio, traditionally the state has been a much better partner for transit than they are today. the issue is less ideological than one where most Ohioans are not touched by transit and don't feel any benefit from transit systems they are a part of. Federal the FTA's scoring system Has changed, this chnage has allowed the Red line extension to score as well as it will. I repeat: changes at the FTA have allowed Cleveland to be more competitive for FTA dollars. this doesn't mean we will win but we have a chance. The federal transportation issues will be address sooner or later and we must be ready with proper plans and local consensus on what we want in our 21st century Transit system. Local In case you guys didn't know I am the founder of Cleveland Streetcar, a board Member of All Aboard Ohio, and Staff member of Bike Cleveland. there are parallels to cycling advocacy and transit Advocacy. advocacy helps people become aware, and better understand the issues. Ask yourself how many people in Cleveland cared about bike lanes 5 years ago vs today? what do you think changed? better advocacy of issues that affect people on bikes, we made people care about bicycling. who is advocating for better transit in Cleveland? who is building the coalitions needed to get the political system to care about Transit? Cincinnati built a coalition that has become very effective at getting people to listen to them. the core of effective Advocacy begins at the grassroots, you have show that people actually care about transit before Local, state and federal officials begin to give a Crap about it. Short term you are correct. , Transit must become a desirable mode of travel, it doesn't do anyone any good if our rail system doesn't go where people want to go, you cannot expect the region to return to the Way it was 60 years ago when 80% of all county residents lived in the city of Cleveland. even in Regions where new lines are being built they go where the people are, Minneapolis built the Blue line to reach mall of america and the Airport now the green line cuts though a dense urban area with rail, above grade where the people and the jobs are. Grassroots organizing is what is needed to change ODOT. True TOD requires more trips than work trips to be successful. I think moving is start but you still must work harder to high quality transit within range of more jobs.

this is an Interesting new way to be a transit planner http://www.transitmix.net/ I think everyone should try it out. BTW GCRTA cost per hour is Bus ~$130 per hour Light rail $257 Heavy rail $271 Portland's Light rail $175

This is ignores the reality of the morgage market and it's very recent history. It is very difficult to get a mortgage with less than perfect credit. Banks know this and construction financing for a new residential Condos is very hard to find, but financing for residential rentals is not. what do you think is better for property value: a)what is there now B) what is being planned in general Americans are too wedded to the idea of owning real estate, with over 400 billion dollars a year in tax subsidies being spent on rewarding property owners.

source? something for you to read Why do condos even exist?

right here. I guess.

All of them? Will this one? Its vaporware, someone has to regulate it, why not move every Vaporware project to the general transportation forum? They market this as Transit, why the resistance to moving it to the transit forum? Why did it take so long to have it moved to the transportation forum from the NEO projects and construction?

Aerial trams are covered under the FTA

hmm. why isn't this thread in transit?

Nice video of riding the new Sun link streetcar.

Well said. their mandate is to stay solvent nothing more and nothing less.