Alabama ExPat

No chops, steaks for sale at 3CDC By Joe Wessels The sign is on - but despite what it says, 3CDC is not selling chicken, steaks or chops. If you drove by 12th and Vine streets in Over-the-Rhine in the past few days, you'd likely notice the Bank Café sign is lit back up again after being out for years. No food will be served again at the location, but 3CDC will open a sales center Feb. 8 inside the former restaurant for the approximately 100 renovated living units it now has for sale in the immediate area. http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070113/EDIT/701130352/1003

So you leave for work in the morning. The power washers whoe up and finish before your return. I wonder how many times you circle the block before you figure that that's your building.

The lack of exceptions for places like this is what really tics me off with the issue that passed. :x

At least for the past year, the Skyline on Fourth and Sycamore seems to have been adjusting their hour on nights and weeekends for Reds games.

You might just be right. In my opinion, one of the signs of a poorly run/managed mall is one in which the businesses are allowed to set their own hours without being required to be open during the core mall operating hours. Walk through Tower Place on a Sunday and half (or more) of the stores aren't even open. Who would bother to visit a mall if you don't know for sure what's going to be open or closed?

Apparently not. You must have missed xumelanie's comment just above about units on the back already being sold out.

Here's a picture dated 1955 from the Ohio Historical society website. It looks like the same facade. http://www.ohiohistory.org/etcetera/exhibits/ohiopix/image.cfm?ID=3072

You mentioned Lytle Tower at 4th and broadway. I have a place about a block from there. It's a very quiet corner of downtown, with a fair amount of residents in the neighborhood. It is mostly an office building / residential combination. Depending on what you're looking for, you might find it to be too quiet. There's not much in the immediate vicinity in terms of reastauraunts or bars open at night. As you probably know, that location is about a 10 block walk to the Delta call center. If you are interested in Lytle Tower location, you may also want to take a look at the Phelps. It's just down the street, and it appears that it may be in the same price range as Lylte Tower. The site doesn't show them, but they also have studios. http://www.thephelpsapartments.com/ I'm not familiar with the properties, but options closer to the Delta call center are Garfield Tower and The Gramercy. There are also several places on the west end of Fourth street by Middle Earth Development. There's a link to their site on the link The_Cincinnati_Kid posted. Just curious, where are you relocating from? P.S. The best part about renting, is that if it turns out you find someplace better after you've moved in, you can always switch once the lease is up. Just be sure to make friends with someone who owns a pickup truck.

I think a movie theater would be a great idea for both that location and downtown. Over time, the stores on street level could add street presence along fourth and race. The food court could stay on the basement level (I assume they do a good business with the weekday lunch crowd).

So I'm still wondering whats on the back side of floors 5 through 13 (or so). All of the X01 and X02 units are on the front of the building. Some of the units on the east side use up 6 if the 8 windows on that side, but some only extend to 4. None of the floor plans show any windows across the back of the building.

Interesting. I'm surprised that there's no mention of the McAlpin project in the article. I'm curious as to their current prediction for their first move in. Has anyone heard an update? I always assumed the American Building was a bigger project than 37 Units. Looking at the floorplans, it looks like all of the units sit at the front two corners of the building. If this is correct, I wonder whats in the back half of the building?

Tiffany's isn't at Tower Place it is located at 5th & Vine and seems to be doing quite well. According to the sales associate I was talking to just before Christmas, it has been doing quite well ever since they opened. Tiffany's sells items you can't buy anywhere else in the area (other than through their catalog). It's the type of retailer that will work well in downtown. A destination store, unique in the area, with an established following. Other downtown examples are Saks and Brooks Brothers. It will be interesting to see how Jos A Banks does in their new downtown location. There are several mall based stores already in the area. It seems that it has always been a strategy of theirs to put a store near a Brooks Brothers store (at least in the downtown area).

Talbots had a location downtown before the existence of tower place mall. I'm not sure whether Kenwood or downtown had the first Cincinnati location. However, these two were definately well before the others. In many areas, Talbot's works as a destination retailer. If the downtown store was the only store, I'm sure it would do quite well. It would probably even do well with just the Kenwood store. However, with the Talbots stores at Crestview Hills and Rookwood commons, It's probably just not seeing the traffic it needs to in order to stay open.

After those two close, I'm trying to think which stores are left ftom the original opeinng. All I can think of are Victoria's Secret and Brentanos.

Mmmm. I bet if I had a place in that building, the staff at Jean Ro would deliver. My food and bar tab would probably make them unaffordable. :-D

I didn't like either of the two options presented for vote. The version backed by the tobacco industry was a bit more reasonable, but the language related to changing the state constitution, and over turning existing, more stringent smoking bans made it too dumb to vote for. The version backed by the American Cancer Society (the one that passed) is too restrictive. It seems that there should at least be some venues that should be ale to permit indoor smoking. Some bars, cigar bars, private clubs like country clubs and the VFW, etc. Don't get me wrong. I love that any place where I don't really have a choice to be is going to be smoke free. Offices, lobby areas, airports, stores. I just think the law that passed went a bit too far. For the record. I don't smoke cigarettes, but I love my occasional cigar.

Come on downtown; the water's fine Byron McCauley True story. One of the students in a class I teach at the University of Cincinnati recently startled me when he said his mom, who lives in one of Cincinnati's outer-ring suburbs, won't step foot into Cincinnati for fear of being mugged, shot or killed. I wish she and others like her could have been with me the other morning at the mid-19th century classic row house of Cincinnati interior designer Patrick M. Korb, along with a group of about 30 others. Korb's home/office on West Ninth Street is a stone's throw from Music Hall, City Hall, the main public library and Over-the-Rhine. For more information, please click the link. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/EDIT01/612270309/1090

I'm must be missing something. What does 911 have to do with it? :? Okay. Got it. I was missing the signifigance that it was a pre-WWII building that held the title of tallest in a city, versus the tallest pre-WWII building in a city. The first case being relevent to 911, the second not.

There were a couple of brochures for the project sitting at the bar at Jean Ro's. The drawings do make the units look to skinny. However, the units above the restaurant at the front of the building would have a kitchen and great room the same width as the restaurant, with the bedrooms being narrower to accommodate a hall. This should be plenty wide.

Out place downtown is just above the north end of Lylte tunnel and I-71. Even with exterior walls where the surface space is mostly window, we hardly hear anthing.

I'm must be missing something. What does 911 have to do with it? :?

A couple of items for this edition: Paragon Salons (currently in the basement of the Carew Tower / Nertherland Hilton complex) is moving to the corner of 4th and Race at the old Closson's site. IT will be good to get something in that spot, but the site definitely lacks curb appeal Part 1 and Part 2 crimes in the CBD are both down from the same period last year (21.8% and 10.4% respectively) I'm a bit surprised at the count of 22 business closings, but I can't say I'd miss any of them except the dry cleaners. I can't believe they are still listing the Next project as proposed in the table in the back. That is surely dead.

I'm using the browser on my cell phone (at the moment). This is one of the few websites where everything actually works. Normally I use IE7 on Windows Vista. Update: Okay, so the spell checker didn't actualy work. :-(

It looks good to me. I would love to get rid of that snarl of ramps and overpasses disappear.

I received an email today that the sales/design center for thr project was ready to open in the old Park Place at Lytle design center.