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Read David manns latest face book post. Promising. Still If cranley vetoes we need flynn on board too

KPMG will do the independent audit No idea who they are

Feds just said Dec 19 at midnight is when Cincinnati will have to decide whether or not they will build the streetcar project They will pull their funds then if they don't get an answer of construction

Cranley just said he will veto any ordinance that resumes construction on the Streetcar That would mean Council would needa supermajority to continue construction. .. Unbelievable

I caught the Brian Thomas interview with Mayor Cranely yesterday morning (Podcast) and I believe both said that the expected ROI (2.7-1) was dependent on the streetcar going to the zoo. Also, just noticed Thomas has a "COUNTDOWN TO THE STREET CAR" widget on the left hand side of his blog page. Altering the route is out of the question. The feds wouldn't go for that and I doubt council would either. I think the most important thing we could do at this point is call out Cranley and Council on their mis-information like the notion that the 2.7-1 ROI is dependent on the uptown connector. We need to back it up with facts and we need to get word out to everyone, including the media and all of the council members and Cranley himself. We can not afford to let lies like that become fact simply because they go unopposed. While I agree, I also have come to believe that the facts are not helping us. They just flat out refuse to believe them. So, while we do need the facts, we also need fear. They are winning this argument based on fear. Look at any great political win in all of history. It's almost always a fear based victory. We have to scare people about the reality of bankruptcy brought on by ongoing litigation from the cancellation of this project. The energy and momentum of this city will come to a grinding halt as that energy is focused on fighting lawsuit after lawsuit for the foreseeable future, and even reaching out to ten years. It took until 1966 to pay off the subway bonds. We will have a similar burden with streetcar cancellation. Now, throw in the reality of out litigious society, and we have a recipe for utter fiscal collapse for cincinnati. THIS.

This is what scares me

It's a great idea and definitely good pr. It won't pass but it makes the "fiscal conservatives" position even that much more ludicrous All I know is sitting around waiting for an audit that may or may not be influenced by cranley is playing with fire. There is an active pr misinformation campaign out there to influence Mann and flynn. 700wlw will never show our side. The Enquirer has publicly stated they want the project to be finished. They are our ally. Here's a quote I heard today: "I've dealt with Cranley and City Hall. I can tell you right now they're laughing at the streetcar supporters and thinking the same thing I am: they're good at organizing rallies, talking big stuff to the media, and packing City Hall, but none of that matters in the long run if they can't influence the vote or do anything politically to hurt us."

^ No evidence of this whatsoever. I hope Mann and flynn aren't falling for this carefully hatched misinformation campaign created by cranley, smitherman coast and 700wlw

Nervous. Any updates John? Feeling confident still?

Cranleys master plan is to stall and have the feds yank federal funding for the project so it wouldn't surprise me. That said, yesterday Mann said 10-14 days. Also mman made a Facebook post about the Streetcar a couple minutes ago

So does that mean they aren't even considering building Phase 1a and stopping? That would pretty much be rigging the whole thing, since they appear to be ignoring economics and just looking at accounting. I don't think they are looking at phase 2. There are too many unknowns.

My current concern is who will be hired to go over John Deatrick's numbers. Will this council shop for a consultant who's likely to suggest cancellation? Will they then try to make the consultant the scapegoat when cancellation costs end up exceeding the estimates? It's Scott stiles. Dohoneys interim city manager I'm sure cranley is already talking to him

According to Urbancincy who's quoting business courier, leadership at the following companies have come out in favor of finishing the streetcar: -Procter & Gamble -Frost Brown Todd -CBRE -Otto M. Buding Family Foundation -Haile/U.S. Bank Foundation -Greiwe Development Group -Grandin Properties -Blue Chip Venture -Jack Rouse Associates -Fifth Third Bank http://www.urbancincy.com/2013/12/after-another-day-of-chaos-at-city-hall-council-votes-to-pause-streetcar-project/

Any word on the federal funds?

Recall John cranley Facebook page was already created Lol https://m.facebook.com/recallcranley

COAST tweets congratulating people on killing the streetcar: COAST: Today was fruition of five very long years of work to stop City from wasting valuable resources on a toy trolley. COAST: We popped a lot of neon green balloons today. COAST: We thank the @GOCOAST legal team led by Curt Hartman + @Chris_Finney. COAST: Oh yeah, we forgot the #GOP + @ChairmanAlex for also standing tall. Thanks @JeffCapell. Heck, thank anyone else we forgot as well. COAST: We thank @voteSmitherman @JohnCranley @Amy_Murray @dsmann115 @FlynnForCincy @Charlie_Winburn for their courage to do the right thing. COAST: We thank @GOCOAST ers Tom @goBrinkman, @MarkWMiller, @brianshrive, Stephan Louis, Kim Grant, Dan Regenold, + dozens of others. COAST: We thank Justin Jeffre + Michael Earl Patton. We thank Libertarians, Homeless Coalition, Firefighters Union. COAST: We thank @kevinwcpo @jwilliamscincy @ChrisCinciBiz @cindiincincy @cweiser + others in media who exposed boondoggle. #cincystreetcar COAST: We thank @AuditorRhodes + Tom Luken. We thank Charlie Luken. We thank Marvin Smith of Ollie's Trolley + Ken Anderson of the Buzz. COAST: We thank CODE Labor union and Americans for Prosperity - Ohio Chapter. We thank Ohio Libertarian Party. COAST: We thank NAACP + @voteSmitherman, Green Party + Gwen Marshall. COAST: We thank the business leaders, community leaders, religious leaders who publicly opposed #cincystreetcar COAST: We thank @GovernorKasich + Senator @sjones524. We thank the Ohio House + Senate. We thank @RepSteveChabot + @bradwenstrup COAST: We want to thank the many leaders + partners in our coalition: FOP + Kathy Harrell. COAST: We thank Westwood Concern, @marykuhl + Helen Russo. We thank Baptist Ministers + Dock Foster. COAST: Mostly, we thank the voters of @CityOfCincy who put in office responsible public servants who put an end to the bottomless money pit. If there's ever a case for Karma, here is one

CAF will probably make a ton. The first lawsuit will probably rhyme with Toast

What Amy Murray, Smitherman Cranley and the rest are hoping is that the Feds yank the money so they don't have to make a final decision. They are hoping to be bailed out The 'readings' and 'votes' were all for show. The game was rigged from the beginning. Supporters had no chance from the beginning. Cranley played this brilliantly from a political standpoint I really hope the feds hold out but 14 days is a long long time...I have my doubts federal funding will still be there in 2 weeks. The only good thing to come out of this debacle is that it A) Riled up urbanists and B) recall procedures will be underway

And if the feds pull the funding?

Get the recall going

They had a compromise to keep construction going and fund an independent audit WITH PRIVATE MONEY Mann was on board and then Cranley took him aside, badgered him and now he changed his mind. UNREAL

Well said. Yvette Simpson would make a great mayor. As would PG.

COAST and the tea party has just nominated John Cranley for an award http://downtown-mtauburn.fox19.com/news/news/193301-conservative-group-nominates-cranley-award

I've heard it was a plant from COAST. He never posted on anything I saw before, made those outrageous comments, and then disappeared. Just moments later, Charlie Norman had a screenshot and tweeted it to all the media

John Deitrick has just ordered construction workers to 'wind down the streetcar project'