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Apparently Darryl parks on 700wlw today said that the reason Detroit is bankrupt is because they spent $24mil on a streetcar I haven't heard it yet but if this is true, they are reaching new heights of propaganda. They've already linked the cincy streetcar to racism(smitherman "young black men will not be allowed to ride the streetcar") & obamacare("being shoved down our throats"). They've also suggested that this streetcar Is somehow "not American" (implying socialism)

Also, we need to get the word out before the November election just how disastrous John Cranley's plan to stop the streetcar project at this point would be. We need specific numbers and scenarios to showcase how idiotic his position would be at this stage of construction to future potentialvoters

Greg Landsman has come out in support of the streetcar: http://www.urbancincy.com/2013/08/greg-landsman-riding-the-cincinnati-streetcar-to-success/ Here's the field of 22 http://wvxu.org/post/field-22-file-nine-cincinnati-city-council-seats Streetcar supporters running for Council: -Greg Landsman -Mike Moroski -Chris Seelbach -Yvette Simpson -Wendell Young -Laure Quinlivan -Michelle Dillingham Anti Streetcar Candidates: -Christopher Smitherman -Amy Murray -Pamula Thomas -PG Sittenfeld -Charlie Winburn -Kevin Flynn -David Mann -Sam Malone -Melissa Wegman -Vanessa White Positions I haven't heard anything about: -Kevin Johnson -Vanessa White

Don't get your cart before the horse. Get the downtown section actually built and operating before you get excited about the uptown link. In case you haven't noticed there is still a contingent who would like to kill it in its tracks (or lack of) right where it is. I believe the uptown link is going to be a bigger fight. I actually believe the opposite. Once the downtown section is open, the uptown section will get more support. UC, Uptown Consortium and UC Health are likely to publicly announce support for an uptown connection soon. I'd bet you could see Uptown Consortium become a funding partner in the next phase. Yes, Cranley still wants to kill it, and it's technically possible (yet now incredibly unlikely that it will be stopped). But waiting until 2016 to start the planning for the next phase is a waste of time. Ideally, you would start construction at the same time, but more likely it would be a couple years later. I didn't mean to sound overconfident. Just emphasizing what we already know about this november. The stakes are high. If Cranley wins and Smitherman/murray/pg/winburn/thomas get elected, there will be no 2nd phase and possibly no first phase. I firmly believe Qualls and a pro streetcar majority council can get the streetcar to uptown going

Great news for supporters. Deatrick has said that the first rail will arrive in Cincinnati sometime in October. Now we have to do our part and vote. Unfortunately Winburn and PG Sittenfeld are probably going to re-elected pretty easily. That's two anti streetcar people on council right off the bat. So we need to really focus on this election. 4 year mayoral and council terms are crucial if we ever want to see an uptown link

Its a cool poll but doesn't really mean much. I've said it before but Honestly I think the only two locks for City Council are Charlie Winburn and PG Sittenfeld. It's going to be a dogfight

Ok I just heard Todd Portune's explanation of "Hop on Cincinnati Trackless streetcars". Call me paranoid but I am firmly convinced this is a well funded, well calculated opposition project to the streetcar in an attempt to undercut the potential success of the streetcar project and to prevent future legs going to uptown/other parts. It sounds like the county will be pushing the "Hop on Cincinnati" idea very hard (Paraphrased below) Portune said specifically the trolley will start from The Banks and go to OTR. He said it will continue to Uptown, UC and the Zoo("Where people want to go"). He continued about how "The streetcar is limited because its on tracks and the route is limited" Scott Sloan asked him if the supporters of Hop on Cincinnati are trying to "Cut out the legs of the Streetcar". Portune said "It's designed to be complimentary. It's 1/10th of the cost of the streetcar and no tax payer money will be used. The idea is it will be all privately funded" Sloan responded by saying "If I'm the city manager or Qualls, I would be upset at the timing of this proposal and the route"

Cranley is responding to everything in the comment section of the attack ad article

Cranley is now actively commenting on enquirer articles

It never ends "Streetcar funding in jeopardy" http://m.fox19.com/autojuice?targetUrl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.fox19.com%2fstory%2f23199860%2ffox19-investigates-streetcar-project-funding-in-jeopardy

They have become the ultimate troll.

It's the same group, sponsored by John Cranley/Christopher Smitherman/Charlie Winburn, that spoke up at meeting after meeting trying to kill the streetcar. Their ultimate goal is to take funding from the streetcar to their project I know Greg Fusaro (loosely) through some business associates. He is not "sponsored by John Cranley/Smitherman/Winburn". Cranley "hopped on" the hop on band wagon totally separately for political purposes and was never part of the creation of Hop On's proposal. Yes, originally some of the people in this wanted to do this INSTEAD of the streetcar. Several of them, including Greg now publicly say, "we are no longer expressing any opinion of the Streetcar and wish it well, we still want to do this because we really think it could be good". I've talked to him, stated I am a strong streetcar supporter and he said that's fine, if it gets all the way done great (which i said, it will), and he said, don't think of this as an either or related to the streetcar, think of it as complimentary. Whoever Craig Hoeschlkend (i don't remember the spelling) and a few other supporters of the streetcar who post on the Enquirer all the time are making us look bad with these incredibly mean spirited, angry attacks.. These insane attacks over this idea are totally uncalled for. All we need to do is sit back and say: Ok, decent idea, I wish them luck proposing it, studying it, finding funding and selling it to the public. (HINT: They will never find $4.5 million a year to fund it or the $12 million for capital costs) Their goal could very likely be to make streetcar supporters freak out and then say: See, they are against all ideas except the streetcar! they are extremists and roxanne is one of them! But if that's the intent (which I don't think it is) then why are we fueling the fire? Just say- Ok, it serves a different purpose than the streetcar. There is a reason we have both busses and rail. Rail gives permanence leading to investment. This Hop on thing would be a nice little movable option thing that people could also use sometimes if they want. I wish them luck. If they find a funding source in federal dollars awesome! If the County funds it great, good for them. Lord knows SORTA doesn't have the money and the current council isn't going to fund it over the streetcar. That being said, It's more likely we could end up with our own Southbank shuttle in 10 years than it is that the Oasis line opens, but no one is freaking out over that idea. Heck- If this group gets a federal grant to buy little trolley busses and partners with SORTA to remove the One for Fun (complete failure) and replace it with one little Hop on Cincinnati route, GREAT! who cares! doesn't hurt me. Definitely doesn't affect the streetcar. Hell, if we REALLY want to kill this idea, all streetcar supporters should start calling it the streetcar compliment that is meant to exist in the shadow of the streetcar as something streetcar users can also take for other reasons. Then anti-streetcar people will start hating this as a big waste of money meant to support the streetcar :P Let's all relax a little and not let little things freak us out. If there is a streetcar in 5 years and a trolley bus that goes on a different route, that's fine with me. I hear you. You are probably right. With so many delay tactics, 180's, and misinformation by opponents, its tough to really trust anyone's word regarding this project. Personally speaking, I just have a hard time believing that they are ok with the streetcar all of the sudden after battling it for so many years. But at the end of the day, your post makes a lot more logical sense than my assumptions. To me, It'd be like if Christopher Smitherman all the sudden started saying he wishes the streetcar well. I'd be constantly thinking "He's up to something".

It's the same group, sponsored by John Cranley/Christopher Smitherman/Charlie Winburn, that spoke up at meeting after meeting trying to kill the streetcar. Their ultimate goal is to take funding from the streetcar to their project

My girlfriends neighborhood just got a Smitherman campaign letter blitz the other day. "As you know, this is an election year and your participation is VERY important. Elections have consequences! The other side is hoping you do not participate in this election. Or, they hope that you haven't been paying attention and that you will use their sample ballot to vote for their candidates. On election day, you must come to the poll informed! Please remember that just because you hear commentary on the radio, see something on the television, or read an article in the newspaper, does not mean that the information is true. Vote your interests. KNOW which candidates support your interests. If you don't support the recent parking deal; if you don't support the streetcar; If you don't like the atrium project; if you don't support under funding the cincinnati pension; and if you don't support laying off police officers and firefighters; then why would you cast a vote for any candidate(s) who supports what you do NOT support. These are the issues that the majority of city council members have spent the last year and a half of their term spending money on instead of issues like basic services such as street repairs. For example, when we are driving down the street, we are still dodging pot holes. The potholes remain because my city council colleagues are distracted by the $150 million, 3.5 mile streetcar downtown. There are many candidates running for city council. I am NOT a democrat; I am NOT a republican; I am an INDEPENDENT. I am requesting your support for my re-election Also there is a September 10, 2013 primary election for mayor. I ENDORSE CANDIDATE JOHN CRANLEY FOR MAYOR OF CINCINNATI."

Enquirer is getting more and more desperate http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130819/NEWS01/308190065 "Don't want a streetcar? What about a trackless trolley?"

I see Mark McGuire is still lending his unique "wisdom" to the Cincinnati.com comment feeds... It's Mark Miller of COAST and he has at least 5 other personalities that 'like' his comment everytime Hugh Montenegro is Jeff Capell of COAST

I agree that she used to be pretty moderate. Look at the fundraisers she's holding now: "This is your last chance to join COAST fundraiser Commissioners Hartmann and Monzel and City Councilman Amy Murray to join celebrities at COAST event....County Commissioners Greg Hartmann and Chris Monzel along with City Council member Amy Murray announce their attendance at COAST fundraiser. This is your last chance to sign up for the COAST fundraiser that is tonight at the Anderson Center on Five Mile Road in Anderson Township featuring President of Americans for Tax Reform Grover Norquist" http://www.roxannequalls.com/files/Budget/COAST.Murray.pdf

Maybe Chabot s Combover was blocking their vision

Yet the local media goes out of their way to quote one of these yahoo's every streetcar or cincinnati city council related article.

Never thought I'd say this...But I completely agree with Eric Deters via facebook yesterday Eric Deters 16 hours ago CHRIS FINNEY- COAST Does anyone believe Chris Finney is all about government watchdog? I don’t. It’s always about his legal fees. I feel sorry for the guy. He must have so little legal business he has to make a living acting like he’s looking out for the taxpayer while “extorting” legal fees out of the taxpayer. What hypocrisy! The taxpayer always is stuck paying his fees. Why doesn’t he do for free? I fought the jail battle for free. That’s my opinion based upon what I observe and read.

Does anyone have a total number of development along the route? Maybe a running tally? The rest of the local media needs to be aware of these developments

"Lack of human beings in pictures" That will be COAST and Smithermans next argument against the project

Doh. Completely misread it. Thanks for the correction. His vote counts

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/money/business_news/chris-bortz-building-a-new-life-far-away-from-city-hall

Chris bortz has come out and supported John Cranley Not like it means anything. He lives in Batavia