inlovewithCLE

Sigh. As has been said multiple times here, outlet malls are actually GROWING while traditional retail is declining. We really need to stop looking at this as a traditional mall. It’s not

Why? An upscale outlet mall in the city center should do well here

In Cleveland proper or the suburbs?

If they get these retailers, my goodness. This is gonna be an excellent development

I love the fact that one of these sites is in Cleveland proper

Also I think they’re being smart about the foot traffic. By adding entertainment options it can draw people who don’t (or don’t like to) shop at the stores to come down there anyway

That’s one of the things I like about it. It seems like they’re adapting their outlet mall concept to a lifestyle center style in the city, which I think is awesome

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/01/committee-narrows-options-for-cuyahoga-county-jail-and-courthouse.html

Like that gander hasn’t had more than its fair share of gandering for 40 years

That’s probably too far from downtown

It looks classic and regal and big city. I love it

Correct

Not enough parking. We went through this already too. The target audience for this, the people who will actually shop here on a regular basis, are not using transit to get there. This has the potential to be a regional draw. It needs to have amenities that the target shopping audience are used to in order for it to work. And it’s also all a moot point anyway because the tech hub is going to be in Tower City, it’s not moving

An outlet mall wouldn’t work in the middle of downtown for all of the million reasons mentioned up thread the last time everybody had this fight. Let it go.

Either like 15 or 20 percent of this development is in East Cleveland. I think this should be in the Glenville thread

Do we have any idea when they’ll start announcing the tenants?

In your opinion does it look like the city will be able to clean the land SHW wants?

Correct. This is common sense. The core has to be strong. You can’t be a suburb of nowhere

That’s a hell of a risk you’d be willing to take. That’s like going to the casino and betting your rent money on 7. I’ll pass

I’m not in the field SHW is in, and I don’t like talking about things that I don’t know. Anybody who has expertise in their field, is there anybody that can say if there’s an environmental reason for the R&D site to be isolated?

So they’re negotiating with the city through your blog essentially lol

Something to be concerned about?

Why can’t we have something that looks like Vegas or Miami Beach?