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"District Park is definitely in our future". Nice to hear. 23 units sold before shovel touches the ground seems pretty substantial to me, especially when viewed in connection with the front page article about Cuyahoga Counties lack of new housing starts.

Amen

What is the status of the steak house that was on the river down there? It isn't still there, is it?

Yesssssss. More golf courses. Actually a real well designed championship golf course can be a real economic benefit, as well as a selling point for the housing etc.

I stopped at Ponte Vecchio two weeks ago. Things were much nicer outside and they claimed they had new owners. The old bridge deck outside the place is THE best spot in town IMHO in the summer.

I think I already did.

Another possibility is that Shaia and Wolstien are not as adversarial as they seem, but are constrained by the 'auto pilot' process. It would be hard for Wolstein to embrace one developement within his boundaries while rejecting the others. Let the Court decide which are legit (Shaia) and which are not (Kasouf).

And think about it...do you want to have a $100 million project managed by people who can't make the simplest deadline of all?

I don't know if I ever thumbed my nose at any new developements downtown...........untill now.

Good point b 12. It's usually May before we start seeing this kind of action. Of course it's usually May before we see this kind of weather.

Thanks as always to KJP for the inside scoop. I am feeling more optimistic now. Curious though that these matters would be played out so publicly by people who know each other and apparently get along with each other....why weren't these issues resolved in some smokey back room?

This project is a stone throw from the proposed District Park, which hasn't happened despite being much further along than the Shaias are. So I'm less optimistic than I want to be. I am really miffed at the attitude of the politicians. They act like two developements are one too many!

Have I been missing something? What is the 'Lighthouse' project?

Was in the neighborhood Friday night. The new condo tower had two levels of structural steel complete. The second floor was cantilevered several feet over the front of the building. I don't carry a camera and it was dark so sorry no pics.

Someone please keep The Pope out of town.

Folks, it was a simpler world back then.

Back in the day when the Flats were jumping. people used to walk across the big lift bridge at the mouth of the river. My wife actually rode the bridge up one night. (does that sound bad?) However, I don't see that as a viable option for pedestrian traffic.

Just a quick teaser. There was steel coming out of the hole at Stonebridge.

KJP is certainly having a week isn't he? Is it too late to change my vote for 'Forumer of the Year"?

My guess is that we will be in the E 4th, Gateway neighborhood. Stark has had designs on that area....perhaps Dan Gilbert is involved in some fashion.

Most 'holiday' gifts are much less enjoyable...thanks blinker

Movement within the flats will be dictated ( like everything in Cleveland) by the weather. Walking from any part of stonebridge to the Main Ave bridge is easy in good weather...a chore in lousy weather. Water taxi...great in summer, etc. But regarding the water taxi, maybe flats residents can buy an annual pass or something. I could imagine that it would become a routine way of getting about after a while.

This project is moving forward quite quickly. Here's a bet that there will be people living in Stonebridge phase 5 before anyone is in the Pinnacle.

Has Gilbert chosen a site yet for his loan center? Also, did the KJP mystery developement anouncement ever happen?

Downtown is a neighborhood also.