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Intermodal transportation hub site at west end of Muni Lot to be studied CLEVELAND, Ohio -- An intermodal hub consolidating the Cleveland operations of RTA, Greyhound, Amtrak, Megabus and downtown trolleys would go on the west end of the Muni Lot, under a proposal sketched out today. A map displayed at a committee meeting of the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority shows a future multi-modal transportation center along the rail tracks just south of the Shoreway and east of East 9th Street, between the North Point Garage and the Muni Lot in downtown Cleveland. "This is a site that all stakeholders agreed on," said Amy Snell, RTA planning team leader. Members of RTA's Planning and Development Committee voted unanimously to recommend an agreement with the city of Cleveland for a feasibility study on such a transportation center. The full RTA board will take up the issue at its Feb. 17 meeting. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/02/intermodal_transportation_hub.html#incart_m-rpt-1

In regards to the health aspect of the article, isn't there a health oriented retailer opening in the flats? Edit: Never mind I see no mention of it on the website.

WAAAY after my time there. The most I remember from Randall is Jeepers amusement park in the late 90s early 2000, not too long after, closings accelerated. Where is MTS when you need him. I feel old. Yep. And here I reminisce about Richmond Mall and Randall Park Mall in the 1970s and early 80s.

So NBBJ was behind this?

Where is this building? Is this the law building?

This building doesn't seem like it would age well. The colors and design don't seem timeless it reminds me of a hotel by the airport. If this is the direction they will go, I prefer the @dave68 tweak, it makes it seem more modern.

Just got back from the CPC meeting and the developer claims that the previous plan (the one extending from Euclid to Prospect) was more costly than they had anticipated, mainly because of the garage. They also mentioned that the new plan will have more units than the previous one, going from 217 to 237 units (or close to 20 more, he said it really fast). It also seems like the parking structure (not really a garage, more of a glorified surface lot) might not be worth it if zoning code is followed, which would require screening and a buffer, but that's only if BZA denies them. Seems like it would be better for them to just keep the surface lot there, especially if they have to add a buffer/screen because then they would have the same number of spaces as the current lot. But they want to pursue a bit more parking to better there chances of getting financing. Will there be ground floor retail on this garage lot?

I'm fine with the shorter height if it means adding density to more than just the Euclid side.

I was wondering if the RTA could bring some trains down this track, but then I remembered the type of trains the RTA has as well as the possible interference with the Amtrack schedule. #SadFace.

No, I haven't seen any announcement about store hours. And what don't you like about it? It's a unique space for a grocery store, so the layout is naturally going to be a bit different. I can't pinpoint it, I'm sure when I see everything come together I'll have a different point of view.

I was told February 22nd by someone at Heinen's Corporate. Off by three days. Store is set to open at 10am on February 25th. http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/northeast-ohio/2015/01/12/heinens-store-opening-in-downtown-cleveland-set-for-feb-25/21650379/ Two things: Speaking of 10 a.m, has the hours of operations been announced? Second, I know that the pictures inside aren't the finished store layout but I'm not a fan of how it is starting to look, yet at least the I'll hold final judgment until the end.

One thing I've heard is they wanted it to be shorter that terminal tower, the original design had it being taller.

Agreed, I also would like to see a cool display that stood out to let you know you are in AsiaTown.

I don't care so much about homage to the TT. Any sense of homage the City owed to its iconic tower was pretty much thrown out the window with 200 PS and Key Tower IMO. I do feel that, at least on here, the design is getting a pass due to the proposed height of the tower. This board tends to trend toward being collectively critical of about every rendering/design put out there..... harsh and nitpicky to an extreme IMO sometimes. But if a supertall is proposed, then we get all googly eyed. In a cluster of residential towers, I'd think this would be an appealing design. As a stand alone, somewhat separated element of the skyline, I don't like it. Charlotte has something similar and it stands out in a bad way IMO. There was never "homage" involved but a certain degree of compliment between the three towers. The jagged and uneven design doesn't fit at all. We're not Brasilia, Dubai, or even Phoenix. We are who we are and while it's not my money and I certainly like the development in principle, we're at heart a traditional town. I know I sound like the bad guys in The Fountainhead, but IMO this will end up being an eyesore and joke, as designed now, and it's too prominent in the skyline. My thing is this though, change has to start somewhere, just because it doesn't fit now doesn't mean it won't fit in the future. Superior avenue has buildings built in the 50-70s with glass facade that didn't originally mesh with their 20s counterparts but more were built over time to make the street blend well. I go back to Chicago as reference because they have a diverse range of building designs, some look like the designs of terminal tower, and some resemble the look of this proposed tower. I bet people had the same traditional sentiments as some people on here when designs began to change. You look at the Chicago skyline now though and it has world renowned building designs and some people travel there just to marvel at them. The skyline is also considered one of the best in the country some would say the world, all because they allowed change to occur and more modern buildings being built caused the "eye sores" to blend it together. My point is things evolve over time, and as time progresses building designs that once stuck out begin to blend in. This comes from designers of future buildings wanting to top what was already built or come close to it. If we continue with the tan and beige pencil designs, which are bland that is what we will continue to get.

I'm not upset or disappointed that this tower doesn't "pay homage" to terminal tower by blending in with it. I'm impressed with the architecture and innovation in the Terminal Tower design but I feel Cleveland residents try to hold on to tradition too much. I feel like that has help our skyline back from a design stand point. It is 2015 I don't want to see another tan and beige colored building because that would help it blend in with terminal tower. I want to see a striking design that catches my eye and brings Cleveland's skyline into the 21st century and this is it (along with the Hilton hotel). If this was built in Chicago it would be praised, but because it is in traditionalist Cleveland it is to striking of a design. Tradition is not bad but some things can be changed over time. This building is what Cleveland needs as far as design, street presence and height. Also I don't mind this building being tall on prospect just because all the other buildings are short. There was a time when buildings on superior weren't very tall as well as public square but things slowly changed and began to blend well together. Overall I love the design and boldness of this project.

Holy sh#t! 54 stories standing at 647 feet?! Amazing. This seems like something you see in Chicago, hopefully this lights a fire under architects designing buildings for Downtown Cleveland.

Pretty good design especially for a high school.

The main target was Shumpert but the Knicks wanted to unload J.R Smith in order for the Cavs to get him, which is why he's here.

Red Line

That was cool!

The Forbes most miserable city list didn't earn us the "Mistake on the Lake", that has been used to death for years (and needs to die). Secondly when did Cleveland become a rap/hip hop mecca?

Reminds me of the now closed Euclid Square Mall in Cleveland.

Speaking of late night trains, the amount of people on the trains at hours such as 10 and 11pm is pretty good, at least on the eastbound trains (eastbound rider).

To me he needs to work on his time management skills, immediately.

Also hopefully the Stark development will jumpstart new construction, I hate the way downtown looks East of the Residences at 1717.