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I'm confused … I thought the tallest in Ohio was the Hilton in Cincy at 372 feet. The PD article says this will be 374 feet, so wouldn't this be the new tallest? I wasn't sure what the tallest was that was the information I was looking for, thank you.

Why is that barometer useful? If its the 2d tallest in the state, yet 50th tallest (for example) in CLE, it doesn't do much for CLE. If it were the 50th tallest bldg in CLE, yet the tallest in the state, then that may be more interesting. But by saying that Toledo or Akron or Cincy or where ever has a taller hotel than does CLE, it doesn't reflect well on the city at all. You could also probably say, 'its the second tallest hotel in Ohio-Alabama-Kentucky-and Mississippi combined' and it wouldn't sound very good. Cleveland's a big city (though not by population) and it must use appropriate metrics. Dude it's a yes or no question your looking waaaay too much into it, I was just curious.

Isn't going to be the 2nd tallest hotel in Ohio?

Much better, for some reason even though it keeps the basic same shape it seems much more graceful. The base also does a good job of looking modern but still have some classic touch. I truly enjoyed the picture that showed how it would look stacked against other buildings downtown.

Frank Jackson stated that "the money was already set aside" s and it isn't really an extra cost they are paying the money they've always been paying.

Here's the story RTA plans to buy 245 natural gas-fueled buses CLEVELAND, Ohio -- RTA board members voted this morning to start buying natural gas-powered buses, authorizing $28.3 million to purchase the first 60 in 2015. All told, the agency expects to replace 245 buses in its fleet with buses that use natural gas, staggering the purchases over four years. RTA's fleet currently has 415 buses, all of them running on diesel fuel. The natural gas buses will cost $472,000 each, higher than the $426,000 price tag for a diesel bus. But the difference will be offset in less than two years by the money saved because natural gas is cheaper and more efficient than diesel, said Frank Polivka, head of procurement for the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/11/rta_plans_to_buy_245_natural_g.html#incart_river_default

One major gap down two more to go, then our skyline will be pleasing to look at (minus the justice center)

Isn't perk park one?

I love this! Bigger scoreboard with a unique design, additional graphics outside the stadium to make it pop, and closer seats to the field....make way for a new 12th man EDIT: I'm kind of bummed that the total seats are dropping from 71,000 to 68,000 though.

He keeps saying 25 Stories, I thought it was taller than that.

I agree with half of those hotels, I think Denver is BEAUTIFUL but I believe this looks better than San Diego. I need a 3D design to fully get an appreciation of the design, but so far I like it for the most part (Going back and forth on the podium design). EDIT: Found the 3D design http://photos.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/2013/11/hotelzip.html

I was speaking about the convention center hotel.

So it will have the look of a 410 foot tower, but really be 370 feet?

So it will be 5 feet taller than the Ohio Bell/AT&T tower and 20 feet shorter than the Ameritrust tower. So it will have a nice impact on the skyline. http://www.emporis.com/building/ohiobellhuronbuilding-cleveland-oh-usa

Key thing for me is underground parking, no need for another ugly garage!

Since I'm a younger fan and haven't had the privilege of witnessing the Browns glory days and seeing the Browns higher in the standings than the Steelers, I find it VERY pleasing to talk trash to the Steelers fans and be able to back it up!

Why? It seems that hard rock makes TONS of money

Also any word on some businesses opening in the already vacant storefronts at uptown?

A stylish one, or a cinderblock?

State awards $3 million grant for cleanup work at Flats East Bank project site COLUMBUS, Ohio—The city of Cleveland has been awarded a $3 million state grant to help cover cleanup costs for the Flats East Bank project, state officials announced Friday. The large-scale development will encompass a large portion of the Flats, creating more than 300,000 square feet of retail and office space as well as 72 residential units, the Ohio Development Services Agency said in a release. http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2013/11/state_awards_3_million_grant_f.html#incart_river

no kidding? i had no idea either. kinda cool that the local locations are at the level its even missed on this thread, hope it keeps up. i imdb'd bad grandpa and the locations included front of the terminal tower and nord middle school in amherst as the inside of the bingo hall. it also mentioned locations in uo's absolute favorite city of all time charlotte, nc. Yeah it was shot in Cleveland and Columbus but another area it was shot in was on E.140th and St.Clair at Christine's Bar.

The announcement was about the big unveiling party the night of May 2nd.......They could have said that on social media!

Will Cleveland actually be Cleveland in this movie or is it serving as a placeholder for another city again?

Never knew the movie bad grandpa was shot partially in cleveland, it was pretty cool to see. Apparently 47% of the movie was shot in Ohio

Not a fan of the retro signage at al and iffy on the gateway, BUT I don't mind the chandelier at all I think it will add a classy touch to the area. I do think that downtown should switch to LED electronic boards instead of those Omni info boards we have now, it just looks 10 times better.