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So I wonder how much this would cost to reopen. After I first found out about that subway I thought it should have never closed but it is what it is I guess, hopefully RTA and the city can salvage this hidden gem.

You say Buckhead (that name is weird by the way) is Atlanta's second downtown and comparable to UC so is it in the Actual city of Atlanta like UC is to Cleveland or counted as a suburb?

Agreed but having two HQ move to the 'burbs doesn't help. I hope they learn the error of their way. I just hope and pray their moves don't do us more harm than good. I don't want Beachwood (or any other 'burb) to become another Buckhead, N. Dallas, Galleria, etc. area. Buckhead was a nice area when I visited....Six years ago...has it changed that much?

As Cleveland medical mart rises up, compare the design to the actual building The design of the as-yet-unfinished medical mart in downtown Cleveland isn’t getting the greatest word of mouth, to judge by comments from people who buttonhole me about it. Readers have complained that the molded concrete panels on the building’s facades look thin and brittle, and that they glare harshly in the light. I’ve also heard that the building’s irregular window patterns look odd. DNA test: LMN Architects devised an unusual window pattern for the med mart based on DNA sequences. The idea is to subtly convey a medical theme while admitting light to the showrooms inside. In renderings, the design is intriguing. It’s an open question whether fine-grain detailing of the windows will be good enough to make the finished product sing. Shape and size: The building is designed to roughly match the height and form of Public Auditorium, the 1922 neoclassical assembly building on the east side of the mall. With the mall still unfinished, it’s hard to say now how well the medical mart will work as a framing device around one of the city’s major public spaces. However, the architects seem to have gotten this part of the design right. http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2012/06/as_cleveland_medical_mart_rise.html

Cleveland-area planners to consider sending $27 million to West 73rd Street project The region's top planning body will vote on plowing $27 million into a new West Side link with the lakeshore. The five-county agency could vote as soon as Friday to send federal money to the West 73rd Street underpass, long planned in the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood. The project would extend West 73rd north as a tunnel under an active rail line. The street would then jog to the east and connect with an existing tunnel under the West Shoreway, leading to Edgewater Park. The project is part of a larger plan to convert the West Shoreway into a tree-lined boulevard. Many commuters are opposed to converting the 50 mph highway into a 35 mph boulevard. That work is still not funded. ODOT announced in 2003 that it would set aside $50 million for the entire project. But costs for the project's first phase – improved pedestrian tunnels and the West 73rd Street underpass – spiraled as engineering problems mounted. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/06/post_25.html

That gas station shouldn't even need rehab it was just renovated for the last gas station and lasted only a few months. I wonder what station is going there now.

Subways are about 250-500 million a mile Streetcars 10-25 million a mile Light rail 25-50 million a mile Elevated rail (estimated) 40-120 million a mile. for $100 million you get .2 -.4miles of subway 4-10miles of streetcar 2-4 miles of light rail .8-2.5 miles of elevated rail. Even though Elevated rail cost more than light rail or streetcars I still think it is an investment that is worth it because of the points I mentioned earlier of being able to see and easily access Cleveland booming neighborhoods. Also you can use the rail cars that you have now on the elevated routes instead of spending Millions per car on streetcars and light rail. I feel an elevated route would be a much more exciting experience than streetcars (I wouldn't mind having either one) but elevated rail gives a different experience while riding.

Now it does seem like that is happening slowly though with Coltman 27, and Circle 118 being built along the Euclid 120th Rapid station route. (You can directly see Coltman 27 at the stop) Also if the Itsea development goes through with offices and residential goes through along with the new Mayfield road rapid transit station that could be a MAJOR boost to ridership. The parking deck though tells a different story but not everyone will be a transit user. The developments I mentioned though gives me some hope of future TOD.

So basically you want housing with retail at the bottom like Uptown or the Phase II residential in the flats East Bank I get what your saying now.

It's on E.83rd and Carnegie my mistake but it's an under the radar development that is almost completed... It was built on the old swift dry cleaner space. http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/forgood/pncfairfaxconnection032212.aspx http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,3594.3750.html

So say the Tech Park in Midtown, Uptown, and the New PNC Business on E.83rd and Chester had been built along the red line route would that be something you would enjoy seeing or just businesses, or green space, or some other mixture?

Is there even a bus that could run with an additional section added on to it? If so (which I doubt) the RTA should buy it.

Obviously we wont be seeing a subway system soon, so a thought just came to my mind about creating an elevated rail system through unserviced neighborhood for both east and west but my question about it is how much would that particularly cost and would it be easier to execute than a subway. I think an elevated system over neighborhoods such as Gordon square and Tremont, etc. and allow people to see what's happening would be cool because while Cleveland has blight there are beautiful neighborhoods that people especially tourist can't see and experience because of how the red line is so low in elevation. Also I feel like it would give Cleveland a different type of feel if that existed but it's just a thought.

So what exactly do you see fit for making the red line cool looking?

I believe these bridges count as being in the Flats... ODOT looking at a private sector deal to build the second Inner Belt Bridge on time COLUMBUS, Ohio -- ODOT is exploring ways to attract private interests to the second Inner Belt Bridge and other big-ticket projects statewide. The idea is to raise money faster and get projects built more quickly, rather than face years of delay.One option for the second bridge could be to seek bids from a team of designers and builders, which would pay for all or part of the $317 million project up front. The state would pay them back over time, Faulkner said. ODOT could also opt to use the existing span longer. But the corroding bridge, similar in design to one that collapsed in Minneapolis in 2007, is already beyond its designed life span. It would cost $89 million to repair it for use a decade beyond 2013. To avoid those scenarios, city, state and federal officials have been pushing for new sources of money to keep the second bridge project on track. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/post_22.html

RTA has millions of dollars needed to fix Red Line trouble spots CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Two longtime trouble spots on RTA's Red Line rapid are scheduled for fixes totaling about $14 million. The tunnel to the airport will be closed for repairs for four to six months, starting late this year or early 2013. Buses will shuttle riders between the station at Brookpark Road and the airport while the tunnel is closed, officials said. RTA has been designing repairs and pooling federal and state money for several years to fix the two sections of rail line. The transit agency learned last week that it will receive $2 million from the Ohio Department of Transportation, the last chunk of money needed to pay for repairs to the Red Line tunnel to the airport. Crews will replace rail lines and realign the overhead power system. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/post_23.html

I wonder how much the cost will be to fill up

Ok thanks, and regardless if this looks suburban to some people it is undoubtedly better than looking at a surface lot.

Was anything recently there on that property before the development or was it grassland/surface lots?

Just doin my job! :-D

pnc breaks ground on new community resource center in fairfax neighborhood A new community resource center being created by PNC Financial Services will better connect the Fairfax neighborhood's residents and small businesses to economic opportunities in Northeast Ohio. It will also celebrate the rich history and legacy of a neighborhood that was once home to Langston Hughes and houses Karamu Theatre. PNC recently broke ground on PNC Fairfax Connection, a new facility that is being built on the site of a former dry cleaner at E. 83rd St. and Carnegie Avenue. The 6,400-square-foot facility was designed by Richard Fleischman and ESI Design. PNC officials hope to celebrate a grand opening here in the fall. PNC Fairfax Connection will offer access to technology and training, resources to connect residents to jobs, and intergenerational, youth and early childhood programming. It will also help celebrate the cultural legacy of Fairfax. http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/forgood/pncfairfaxconnection032212.aspx I believe I found it....

forget about the tunnels, you want more capacity on the healthline your need STREETCARS.... why because they can hold a lot more people my personal project. Health line BRT Width 2.6 meters Height 3.3 meters 130inches 10’ 10” Length 18.54 meters 60 feet Step height 14 inches Seats 47 Max capacity 100 Weight 20 tonnes Turning radius 13.4m Fleet size 23 Length of route 6.8 miles Potential replacement fleet Bombardier flexity 2 freedom 5 module Standard gauge Width 2.4m -2.54 Length 30.8m 101 Height 11’10” 3.6m Floor height 14-12.8in Weight (empty) ? Max weight 48 metric tonnes Wheel diameter .65m Seats 64-70 Seat + standees 132 crush capacity 181 Top speed 70-80kmh ~50mph Max acceleration 1.2 m/s Voltage 600-750 volt http://lrv.ttc.ca/Meet_Your_New_Ride.aspx Toronto is buying 205 of these vehicles. they use the same voltage as our rail system. Boy this makes so much more sense and I would love to see these going down Euclid, but how much do you think the replacement would cost?

This belongs in the "stupid list" thread as this is an advertorial by Walk Score. This is not the same as, the yearly list provided by American Public Transportation Association. By the way did that list come out yet?

Is that a west side route? If it is the RTA would have to choose what station it wants to have the bus come out of Windermere or Triskett. I believe RTA would keep the HL vehicles in the Windermere station because for one the east side is still busy but also the west side has a new set of articulated buses they are running. They could just keep purchasing that style of bus for the West, and the HL style for the east.

It may have been because this list accounts for the transit access for neighborhoods which actually makes a case for RTA to make rail expansion, add bus routes to neighborhoods etc.