JohnClevesSymmes

More appropriate would probably be East Walnut Hills/Evanston.

I think the point was that a permanent barrier might not work bc of the taxi line

Used to go there as a kid. I have a mental picture of the place but unfortunately not a physical/digital one. Quick google search found me this: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_n48_v24/ai_9225018/ Covington Landing plots next growth phase: booming attendance encourages developers of Kentucky entertainment complex by Carolyn Walkup ... Current highlights of the complex include seven restaurants and four nightclubs. Scheduled to open next spring are The Pilot House, a private dining room atop the Spirit of America, a replica of an 1880s steamboat; The Sand Bar, an outdoor patio with live entertainment; and a kitchen for the outdoor Moon River Cafe. The Moon River Cafe is a top-deck lounge featuring live Dixieland and jazz combos on the Spirit of America. The 272-foot ship also houses Stobart's, a fine-dining restaurant; Belle's River Saloon, a Gay '90s-themed dance hall live entertainment; and Steamboats Steakhouse, a casual steak and burger dinner house. Additional attractions are located on The Wharf, a turn-of-the-century-themed floating barge connected to the Spirit of America by ramps. Restaurants and nightclubs there are The Howl at the Moon Saloon, featuring two baby grand piano players; T.G.I. Friday's; City Lights rock-'n'-roll dance club; Pizza Hut, TCBY Yogurt and Skyline Chili. ...

I am more and more convinced that the "central parkway elbow" location is a great option. How about pitching this as a new Bearcats arena, to be built in conjunction with the streetcar line extension up to UC? As much as I would love to root on the Kentucky Colonels NBA franchise, I am in no mood to hear another argument for how NKY "gets it done" while Cincy sits on its hands.

What you are saying now doesn't even make sense. I thought creating more jobs for people with college degrees is a good thing. Furthermore, I know people with college degrees who have only found jobs "sweeping floors" (waiting tables, more accurately), so again your point doesn't really make sense. The argument that OTR sits between our two major job centers speaks to its inherent sustainability. How many jobs exist in Indian Hill or Amberley Village? Those areas maintain solid populations and high property values because people want to live there. Now the trend is that more people want to live in walkable, downtown-like environments. There is a reason why there is almost nothing available to rent in OTR or Downtown. We have passed the college try: there is big money as well as individuals plotting every day how they can add to the surging momentum in OTR.

^ As a fellow resident, I also felt the same way. On the other hand I just drove up Vine St. to grab some Currito and I was reminded that there is still a long way to go north of Liberty.

I always thought Art Moderne, or Streamline Moderne, was a sub-category or extension of Art Deco.

^So you predict Mahogany will open at the Banks?

I would be interested to know who pushed for them behind the scenes. However, as long as the deal doesn't go through (which it definitely now looks like it won't), I won't hold it against the administration.

Anyone know when this bike shop is opening/who is opening it? This is the storefront on Central Parkway that is part of the Gateway Garage.

Any word on if they might begin to take reservations? The website has a "reserve a table" icon that links to opentable where it says "This restaurant is currently unavailable."

^ On the top of the tower?

^ Don't feel like such an idiot. Apparently there are some serious issues regarding the naming rights for the building. Chiquita still has its lease for a couple years and rights to have the building called the Chiquita Center but Nielson wants its name up on the building asap. I heard there are some City regulations about office tower names that require that the name be of the "primary" tenant, and that tenant has to occupy a certain percentage of the building. It is also possible Nielson isn't there yet.

^Haven't seen any. Been locking up on the railing across the entryway from the Lager House both times I went there.

Surely this is a bit of an exaggeration as you have no way of knowing how much respect these people pay to those who worked to save the neighborhood. When they are having a drink at the Lackman, Jimmy and Chloe Hipster are not going to necessarily be having a conversation thanking god for Person X who filed a petition in 1987 that saved this building from the bulldozer. Could 3CDC have swooped in and done everything they did in the past 5 years if all of the historic stock had been demolished 20 years ago? No. Would the past 20-30 years mean anything if the neighborhood was still crumbling and those "100" or so people weren't living there, hanging out there, and spending money there and making the next wave of residents/consumers/business owners feel comfortable making an investment down there? Probably not.

I don't understand this statement. We also have a huge national debt and global climate destabilization so I guess we should never debate small issues? It is arguable that the city should not have given the grant or should have chosen another restaurant. Certainly there are strong arguments in favor, but the opposition should not be disregarded. The debate in this forum has helped me shape my own point of view on the subject and helped me articulate pros and cons with less informed individuals. Ram23's anger is definitely shared by other reasonable, intelligent people.

^ San Francisco has a huge bike population - not sure I need to say more. Also, it is extremely easy to bike throughout the basin and Newport/Covington.

Someone actually explained this to me once but I am not sure I can properly repeat. The sweetheart deal was partially due to the inclusion of the "rowing center" because it is a public good or something. Montgomery Inn pays something like a dollar a year rent with some option to buy after a set period of time at an absurdly low rate. If you want to know who arranged the deal just look at who the rowing center is named after.

^^ @EighthandState it seems similar to the arrangement Tavern on the Green and the Central Park Boathouse have with the NYC Parks Dept.

I definitely see where you are coming from in terms of economic development creating the demand/ridership. The purpose of building the streetcar is certainly not necessarily to serve an existing ridership demand from the banks to Findlay Market; whereas, the purpose of building lightrail along I-71 and I-75 corridors is to service an existing need. However, while the purpose of the lightrail itself matches the purpose of building it, that is not the case with the streetcar. The streetcar will serve as a pedestrian accelerator. People will not say to themselves "Wow, that streetcar sure is a great economic development engine, let's ride it!" They will say, "Wow, it is so awesome that the streetcar connects the stadiums, the banks, fountain square, gateway quarter, washington park, and Findlay Market! Let's ride the streetcar and go to all those places!"

I subscribe to the school of thought that function = purpose. You bought the TV because it allows you to watch moving images on it. You drive your car to take you where you want to go. You will ride on the streetcar to move about the downtown/OTR area and go farther and faster than you would on foot. You aren't riding on the streetcar because it is a great economic development catalyst. That might be the reason we fund its construction but not its purpose. Mass transit's purpose is first and foremost for people to actually use it.

And the main purpose of all transportation is to move people (or objects).

During the day you can definitely break out the laptop and it is pretty quiet. At night that is not the case. As mcadreniline pointed out, it is pretty small so it gets crowded easily.

^ I was there around 10. Did we overlap? I've been there a few times since they opened. It has been quiet during the day and bustling at night. I like the whole wine flight concept and dig the coffee program. Pricey but definitely a solid addition to the block.

^ Not to mention, the time of day will be relevant. 7pm meet-up will obviously be OTR; 3am = Covington.