BigDipper 80

I lived in Cleveland for 20 years, Cincinnati for 5, and now Dayton for 4 years, and Cleveland really isn't as different from the rest of the state as people seem to insist that it is. I get the frustration in feeling that the state isn't doing enough to help out urban areas, but I think it would be far easier to lobby for reform at the state level (and hopefully the new state legislature redistricting helps somewhat) than to continue some pie-in-the-sky secession thought experiment. Pretty much every urban area in Ohio has urbanists who want to see their cities get better, and fixing things at the state level would help out a lot more regions than just northeast Ohio. we all get sh*t on, not just you guys.

There's an economic difference between being located 60 miles from the largest city in the country and... being Youngstown that allows Bridgeport to build up in a way that Youngstown never would, even if it had a healthier economy.

I said it in another thread but CT already has Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven to deal with. Why would they willingly want to add Cleveland, Elyria and Youngstown to that list of struggling legacy cities?

I thought this was going to be the retail hub of the entire midwest? I'll take some somewhat-walkable dense housing in a far-flung township. regardless.

Local developers have big plans for vacant West Dayton building DAYTON, Ohio (WKEF/WRGT) -- New development is coming to West Dayton. A local development team plans to turn a 50,000 square foot vacant building into something positive for the local community. Developers said the historic building on 800 West Third Street is the gateway to the Wright Dunbar District. The local minority owned San Marco Dayton Development Team hopes to bring new life to the old Chevy building. More below: https://dayton247now.com/news/local/local-developers-have-big-plans-for-vacant-west-dayton-building?fbclid=IwAR01QZN2I1N77X6YKAXTTxIGZhGsh1Mx23i2RtgpvAOkcb-U12h5Npr3tfE

Wow, I didn't realize the stadium was that far along.

Wright Dunbar Food Hall Located adjacent to the National Aviation Heritage Museum and original Wright Bros Cycle shop sits a 6,000 square foot one story building where Dillin is creating a Food Hall containing 5 food stations, coffee shop and bar to serve the surrounding neighborhood and destination foodies alike in a first phase investment. http://dillincorp.com/project/wright-dunbar-food-hall/?fbclid=IwAR0N0luRl0mO7wV7lsai6jKSX8mfEq0u7xrQJ3NSCk5-yLuE2KR3d5XzR7U

Finney also sued to get Kings Island opened, one day before the state announced the plan to reopen theme parks.

^The article update says that all three of their OTR locations are closing.

Giant bicycle roundabout/overpass, anyone? You could even decorate it with Bicycle playing card designs.

Would have preferred this in a more walkable area like downtown Miamisburg or something, but it's nice to see Basil's doing good enough to open another local location.

So from what I can tell (and what is usually the case with urban townships), Mt. Healthy, Greenhills, etc were part of Springfield Township at one point, but have since withdrawn, leaving the rump township which contains the unincorporated Finneytown. But because Ohio law requires all municipalities to be overlaid over a township, the cities that left formed "paper townships" that instantly had their governments dissolved, since township governments cease to exist once fully incorporated. But up in Greene County, the City of Beavercreek never withdrew from Beavercreek Township and did not create a new paper township beneath it. Therefore residents of Beavercreek can vote in both city and township elections, since they're members of both. The two-election (and double taxation) caveat is why most cities create paper townships, but for some reason the three townships around Dayton have actual cities within them. The Hamilton County townships are actually doing it the "normal" way. Washington, Miami, and Beavercreek Townships are the outliers.

That list is a little wonky because of how Ohio's townships work. For example, only about 5,000 people actually live in the unincorporated parts of Beavercreek Township. Most of them are in the incorporated city of Beavercreek, or in parts of Fairborn or Xenia, which both have sections taken out of the township. The same is true with both Washington and Miami Townships.

That growth slowdown in Cincinnati is probably why the city ended up with its old-money neighborhoods retaining some of their pastoral character. The boomtowns of the 10s and 20s either obliterated all of their country estates or dramatically subdivided the land to squeeze in more housing for factory workers, while the wealthy and middle class moved into the more top-down planned (and consistently dense) areas like Bexley or Cherokee Triangle. Meanwhile in Cincinnati, you have homes along Clifton and Lafayette that sit on roughly the same lot size as they did in the 1870s when it was still positively rural up the hill. Cincinnati is really the only city that I can think of where those formerly-wealthy close-in neighborhoods didn't get totally consumed by cramming in as much housing stock as humanly possible.

The grease to keep the machines lubed was probably worse than the plant based inks and paste that Bicycle uses. Actually, the dirtiest part was probably the sheet stripping and punching machines. They used internal combustion engines until they were retrofitted for electric motors when the plant moved to Erlanger.

Wouldn't that apply for other cessions in the early years of the Republic? As far as I can tell, those living in the Yazoo Lands of Georgia didn't get a vote when the fallout from the land-sale scandal there led to Georgia ceding the land to the new Mississippi Territory in 1802.

Yeah, as soon as you get out of the basin, density just plummets in nearly every direction, save for a few exceptions like CUF. Places like Walnut Hills and even the northern half of Clifton certainly feel a lot more "suburban" at street level than architecturally-comparable neighborhoods in other river cities like Pittsburgh or Louisville.

Another bizarre one from Pittsburgh. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/480-Rainier-Dr-Pittsburgh-PA-15239/11262049_zpid/?fbclid=IwAR39Y3fxf_J_vsuA62lI0y9PzLfCK7fIlytKGHGuszCesTHOaBELKq-ygI4 You can hear the realtor dying inside as he typed up the description on this place.

This one could probably go in the Glass Block thread too, https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/165-42nd-St-Pittsburgh-PA-15201/11512969_zpid/?

But it'll have an ALL-NEW KITCHEN! Nothing can rival an ALL-NEW KITCHEN!

Thank goodness that passed. Hopefully this will be a step in the right direction.

LA is a dream or a nightmare depending on which direction you're facing on any given street corner.

That's what I was trying to get at. If it was unnecessary and superfluous, why keep the office going that long?

What's fueling it, then? Hubris in the C-suite?