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Because those MSAs are part of CSAs that do include Ohio counties.

I was Streetviewing around Baltimore and came across this infill that does a good job of avoiding the overly-complex-and-overly-cheap facades that plague a lot of these yuppie boxes: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2836015,-76.5915537,3a,96.4y,178.9h,102.81t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjViJvWl9B6KWds36fjNtWQ!2e0 It actually appears to still be a series of single-family townhomes, but the two buildings themselves actually have a coherent massing that still fits in with the rest of the Fells Point neighborhood without pretending to be a bunch of individual Baltimore-style rowhoues. It really isn't anything elaborate, but it appears to be real brick instead of veneer, and there is just enough detailing to keep things interesting. I'd be totally fine with seeing more stuff like this in Ohio's cities that more readily acknowledges its own size instead of pretending to be something it's not. I think this would look completely fine in OTR and I'd prefer it over a lot of the cheap stuff that's been cropping up on a lot of the lots.

Whenever I read these threads I think about how grateful I am to be an outlier. It's unreal how much debt some of my friends are in.

And even buildings that are smaller than Music Hall, etc, are still pretty sizeable. Look at the Art Academy building... it fronts a relatively narrow street and "owns up" to its size, especially compared to those townhomes that just got finished up at 15th and Elm. 5-6 story, quarter-to-half-block buildings aren't "out-of-scale" with OTR, and they should be allowed without having to dumb down the facade into phony looking chunks.

But again, a significant concentration of people in a small geographic area doesn't make as huge of an effect across the entire metro area. That's not to diminish the effect of these cities in attracting diversity, but as a part of their respective metro regions, their localized diversity doesn't make much of a difference. The diversity in Painesville, as great as it is, doesn't help balance out the lack of diversity in North Ridgeville or Middleburg Heights. I think that's all that is being said here.

I think all Robuu is trying to say is that looking at a small, arbitrarily defined area (let's face it, city boundaries in the US are pretty arbitrary) can cause some issues with interpreting data. Everyone complains about how sprawly Columbus is, but if you were to arbitrarily only look at the High Street corridor, you'd see a much different picture with respect to density. The same thing can happen with small towns. If you look at a small town, having one or two nonwhite families can make that one town look very diverse, and percentage wise it is, but if you look across the entire metro, that one nonwhite family may not make as significant of a difference.

Megan Barry has resigned as mayor of Nashville as a result of her guilty plea to felony theft: Nashville Mayor Megan Barry resigns from office; 'I love you, Nashville,' she says Nashville Mayor Megan Barry announced her resignation at a news conference Tuesday morning. The resignation comes after she pleaded guilty to felony theft over $10,000 related to her affair with her former police bodyguard. She faced multiple investigations into the affair with police Sgt. Rob Forrest, who is now retired. Barry agreed to reimburse the city. The mayor gave a short statement to the media shortly after 10 a.m. at the Metro courthouse on Public Square. Barry said is has been her "honor and privilege" to serve as mayor and urged residents to rally behind her successor. "I love you Nashville," she said. More below: https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/03/06/nashville-mayor-megan-barry-expected-resign-press-conference-tuesday-morning/398440002/

Every time I hear someone say this, I want to shove this before/after photo of Detroit's James Scott Mansion in their face:

The neighborhoods in Pittsburgh that are doing well are doing really well. Oakland, Squirrel Hill, Mexican War Streets, East Liberty and Shadyside are all very impressive, vibrant neighborhoods. So is South Side Flats, but it's got a very gritty vibe that you don't find in most "recently gentrified" neighborhoods these days. Other neighborhoods, like the Hill District, are still completely bombed out, and other areas like Troy Hill and South Side Slopes, while relatively "stable", still have a noticeable ramshackle feel to them given the overall cheapness of the housing styles there and the impossibly narrow streets that seem to have been strewn all over the place with no rhyme or reason. And then you have some outer suburbs, like West Mifflin that are just downright scary. It's definitely in an interesting state of flux right now.

I've complained about classic rock format stations on this thread before, but I have a new vendetta against those stations that play "80s, 90s, and 'now'" music. Not that I particularly care for most of the 2000s crap played on these stations, but it's weird how they just lump the 00s and the 10s together into a single "music decade". It feels like a ploy so that they can keep 80s songs in their rotation instead of sticking with the 20-30 year arc of similar-format stations in the past.

^Beavercreek is really doing a "good" job of pulling in a whole bunch of atypical regional chains. I'm still amazed that they somehow got the second Primanti's in Ohio, plus Melt and now Giordano's. They just need Swenson's and a Kewpee and there would never be a reason to leave Fairfield Road!

Two steps forward, two steps back, another step forward??? :o After Miller-Valentine exits Dayton Arcade project, 2 big players step up a project to create new housing in the Dayton Arcade, electing to step back from efforts to revitalize the famed complex. But two big players in urban redevelopment have signed on to partner on the project, and the lead developer says the rehab of the arcade into a mix of uses is definitely going to happen, with construction expected to begin this year. Maryland-based Cross Street Partners continues to be the lead developer of the arcade, but its new partners are Cincinnati-based Model Group and St. Louis-based McCormack Baron Salazar. Model Group and McCormack Baron Salazar are “powerhouses” in tax credit investments and new market or historic reuse projects that have large extensive experience completing large and complicated projects, said Bill Struever, principal of Cross Street Partners. More below: https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/breaking-news/after-miller-valentine-exits-dayton-arcade-project-big-players-step/Y5ru3jqwgesw8ZhguBEBwN/

Giordano’s Pizza, Jason’s Deli to open first Dayton-area locations Chicago-based pizza chain Giordano’s and Texas-based Jason’s Deli have signed leases to open their first Dayton-area locations near the Mall at Fairfield Commons in Beavercreek, David Sheehy, a commercial real-estate broker with Anchor Associates, told this news outlet this afternoon, March 5. More below: https://www.dayton.com/news/could-famous-chicago-pizza-chain-headed-dayton-next/K1oahNvZ0p9aU7bZmmDc7N/

Also anecdotally, but on Reddit and other websites I’ve definitely seen a lot more people from the northeast expressing interest in moving to Cleveland/Akron, or Ohio in general. West coasters still seem to be looking primarily at Arizona and Austin or Dallas when they’re trying to get out of their high priced metros.

Toledo's fate is definitely more closely tied to Detroit's than it is to Ohio, which is both a blessing and a curse. It can be hard to get spinoff development when 1) you're across state lines, 2) you're just a little bit too far away, 3) Detroit has so much work that still needs to happen before any big-league guys would think to look to Toledo and 4) Detroit has the branding. In the short and medium term, Toledo needs to work on developing new neighborhood nodes outside of the good work they've started doing downtown. I love the Old West End, but there isn't much to draw people to the area outside of checking out the grand old homes and of course the art museum. The area around UT is pretty weak at the moment, as well. I think the lack of neighborhood business districts is a pretty big hindrance that currently is hurting Toledo's redevelopment compared to its peer-ish cities like Dayton and Akron.

Are you suggesting that Cranley's Vinyl Village isn't dense and walkable enough to revive East Price Hill?

The impossibly quick lifetime arc of a lot of postwar suburbs (Euclid; Maple/Garfield Heights; Bridgetown/most of western Cincy; Trotwood and to a lesser extent Huber Heights) has always fascinated me. The speed at which some of these places went from being white picket fence boomtowns to being completely undesirable just seems unmatched in the long evolution of the American city. What's even more interesting is how some, like Fairview Park or Kettering, manage to hold on fairly well and remain stable and somewhat desirable, but others have just completely imploded 40-50 years after first coming into existence despite having the same housing stock.

^Agreed, its location is really a drag, and the south end of the Cap at Union Station just has all of the life sucked out of it because of that church and the Convention Center, which ends up making that admittedly impressive bridge somewhat less effective at joining downtown and the Short North. Per church re-usal, Dayton does an excellent job of giving its churches new life. One by my house is now a flex space owned by GDRTA, and over in th Oregon District there's a church that's been subdivided into condos and the famous Urban Krag climbing gym inside yet another church a couple of blocks down.

Two steps forward, two steps back... :( Miller-Valentine withdraws from Dayton Arcade project Miller-Valentine Group, the local partner on the Dayton Arcade, has withdrawn from the project’s plan to build new artist housing and has returned millions of dollars in previously awarded tax credits to the state. However, the lead developer is working with other partners to make the project a reality. Miller-Valentine, headquartered in Dayton, teamed up with Maryland-based development firm Cross Street Partners to try to revitalize the long-vacant complex, with plans to create new housing, commercial and innovation spaces. But last month, MV Residential Development President Brian McGeady notified the state that “the Art Works Lofts development is unable to move forward,” according to a letter to the Ohio Housing Finance Agency. McGeady said Miller-Valentine was formally returning all previously awarded funding to the Ohio Housing Finance Agency, which awarded the artist housing component of the project $22.5 million in low-income housing tax credits and up to $6 million in housing development loans. More below: https://www.dayton.com/news/local/miller-valentine-withdraws-from-dayton-arcade-project/Lg8VyoaLlQaoM5qQ7NgnhP/

In a lot of ways, MSP is more like downtown Cleveland--University Circle but a little further apart. They're two functionally separate "downtowns" with different identities and specialties, but it's all effectively one city. As mrnyc pointed out, the light rail line helps link the two much like the Red Line links downtown CLE and UC. Cleveland/Akron are juuuust far enough apart, and there is a bigger size difference, whereas Minneapolis and St Paul are very close in size, with no suburban sprawl between them, just a continuation of the old urban-style street grid.

It looked like an In-N-Out ripoff. Which either means In-N-Out doesn't play well in "the real America" or Chipotle did a bad job copying them.

So are these going to be bendy like Minnesota and Texas licenses (and presumably other states), or still the rigid plastic credit-card type ones?

From a Dayton perspective, the Miami Valley "culturally" stretches from Hamilton all the way up to Sidney. Whenever people talk about the supposedly inevitable Cin-Day merger, they tend to forget that there are these other small cities with commuting and cultural ties to Dayton that they don't share with Cincinnati. The types of communities up in Miami and Shelby counties are starkly different from those down in the Butler-Warren sprawlplex. Which, again, is why I strongly feel population numbers and arbitrary census designations mean next to nothing, and it's unfortunate that the general populace and the media put so much emphasis on a statistic that doesn't really do much to tell you about a region.

Wait a second... Annunciation Church is (relatively) new?! I always assumed it was built in the 20’s or something but apparently it’s at least as old as the convention center.

Was saving the school tied to tax credits or something when COSI built their new facility, or did they just do it out of the goodness of their heart because it makes a nice bookend across the Scioto from the courthouse?